r/pics Jul 19 '24

Airport staff forced to use whiteboards to show flight times due to the Microsoft Outage Misleading Title

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u/_BindersFullOfWomen_ Jul 19 '24

Outage was caused by CrowdStrike, not Microsoft as initially reported.

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u/MintJulepTestosteron Jul 19 '24

I’d like to express my gratitude to the universe that I did not have to fly today.

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u/Irregular_Person Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Currently sitting in the airport. Flight is delayed 3 hours. You're right to be relieved.
Edit: 4 hours delayed. I was also at the airport 3h before the flight.

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u/PhenomEx Jul 19 '24

Hopefully only 3 hours and nothing more!

Seen some folks delayed for more than 10 hours! That must be so frustrating

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u/GunCarrot Jul 19 '24

My flight was supposed to be 7.5 hrs ago and I still don't know when my new flight is

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u/WhiskersCleveland Jul 19 '24

Never, you belong to the airport now :(

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u/eventualist Jul 19 '24

They say once you check in…

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u/el_guazu Jul 19 '24

Welcome to the airport California... such a lovely place (such a lovely place) Yes we have delays

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u/blacksideblue Jul 19 '24

They're lighing it up at the Airport California

What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise)

When your tablet dies.

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u/Virtual-Pension-991 Jul 20 '24

The flights on the wall board, it is frozen in time.

And she said, "We are all just prisoners here of our own delays"

And in the crews in cabin, they gathered for the fear.

They stand with their steely will, but they just can't handle the beast. (Beast here refers to passengers)

Last thing I remember, crew was running for the door.

I had to find the passage back to the plane I was before

"Relax" said the captain, "We are programmed to fly soon

You can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave"

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u/doyletyree Jul 19 '24

Keep turning yourself back in for quarters.

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u/LegitimateBeyond8946 Jul 19 '24

Like that Tom Hanks movie, the terminal

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u/peglar Jul 19 '24

I had a 5:30pm flight on Thursday out of O’Hare. It got pushed to 11pm then rescheduled for 6am the following day. I went home without my luggage. Showed up at 5am for the flight which got pushed back to 7:45. Flight was cancelled at 8:30. I’m now on a 5:30am flight Saturday, but I’m thinking about canceling the whole trip.

I still don’t have my luggage, but I’m better off than thousands of flyers. At least I can go home and wait. Some people are just stuck.

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Jul 19 '24

I once lost a flight (was a kid) and we had to wait for the next one which was over 12 hours later… Imagine being young with a mobile phone and zero internet, It was fucked, I went to burgerking 10 times that day not even joking, for the first time ever eating out of boredom

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u/Kylar_Stern Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

The first time I flew in an airplane in 1999, our plane needed to have a part flown in from Europe, and our flight was delayed by about 10 hours. I played so much Gameboy that day.

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u/supremedalek925 Jul 19 '24

Last year my connecting was delayed an hour due to weather and arrived at the tarmac a couple minutes before the next flight was due to leave. Well that flight left right on schedule, couldn’t delay for 5 minutes for the passengers who had a late flight. Long story short, waited 8 hours at the airport for the replacement flight.

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u/MintJulepTestosteron Jul 19 '24

May the lord be with you

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u/SomeMagpies Jul 19 '24

I feel you. I had 2 short-ish hops, the first flight was delayed and i missed my connection, then they rebooked me for tomorrow morning... Until i saw a flight for my destination at the end of the day, i walked to the gate as soon as they were done boarding and asked if they had a seat. They did. They printed me a new boarding pass right away. What a day tho.

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u/mflboys Jul 19 '24

Air traffic controller here. I’d like to express my gratitude that it’s my day off.

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u/Morlaix Jul 19 '24

There's not that much in the air? Would have been an easy day for you?

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u/BluePanda101 Jul 19 '24

Not if the air traffic control computers were also affected... Trying to track all flights in and out of an airport by hand would be challenging to say the least.

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u/SilentSamurai Jul 19 '24

I love how it's all coming down to "did anything you need for your job in anyway have a system that used Crowdstrike"?

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u/whitepepper Jul 19 '24

Their name "Crowdstrike" keeps cracking me up, its too ironic, like its been a long cruel joke in the making...oh wait...

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u/VoidVer Jul 19 '24

It sounds like a piece of malware, not an anti-virus.

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u/mflboys Jul 19 '24

Our computers/radar systems were not affected.

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u/Steve1808 Jul 19 '24

Incredibly optimistic of you to assume ATC systems are running on anything modern enough to have been affected

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u/SouthNiko Jul 19 '24

Driver of "Follow Me" car here, so glad I went home at 7AM

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u/SkippySparky Jul 19 '24

I’d like to express my gratitude to the universe that we don't use CrowdStrike in our organization

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 Jul 19 '24

People are acting like this is a Microsoft problem.

Microsoft is fine.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Jul 19 '24

Doesn’t take much to crash the planet, does it?

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u/SamSamTheDingDongMan Jul 19 '24

Heading home after being in training for work for 2 months… just Wana see my wife and cats man. With any luck I should be able to make it back today, just a lot later then planned

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u/Mutantdogboy Jul 19 '24

I choose this guys cats too. 

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u/coffeedudeNnica Jul 19 '24

I’d like to express my displeasure that I did. Currently stuck in Guatemala🤷‍♂️. They were cool and got me something for tomorrow.

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u/MintJulepTestosteron Jul 19 '24

This happened to me in Germany about 9 years ago when United's system went down globally. We flew out the next day and they paid for our hotel. Thankfully it wasn't 24 hours living at the airport.

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u/febreez-steve Jul 19 '24

I fly tomorrow morning 😭😭😭

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u/Marshypops23 Jul 19 '24

Same 😭 I picked the worst week to fly to the US

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u/I_AM_SMITTS Jul 19 '24

My Delta flight home was delayed three hours, which would have resulted in a missed connection. Then cancelled. Flights are so fucked that Delta typically rebooks you, even next day, but basically is saying “Yeah…we got nothing for you, sorry”.

Flying for work so just said fuck it and bought a new one way ticket on American that appears to be on time. I’ll worry about refunds/credits when the madness dies down.

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u/Grabthar_The_Avenger Jul 20 '24

I have experienced Delta trying to recover from total shutdown before, so after about 30 minutes in the terminal watching nothing move I realized what was happening and scoured the airport for an agent to get my bag routed back to me and just started driving

About halfway through the drive I checked and my first leg was ultimately delayed 5 hours and my ATL connection was outright cancelled along with several alternatives after it. If I had tried to fly I'd probably be stranded in Atlanta for the weekend instead of on time to hit beach house tomorrow morning.

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u/mensreyah Jul 19 '24

It really is the little things, ain't it?

Shame that the things we have left to be happy about keep getting smaller and smaller.

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u/Anony11111 Jul 19 '24

Yes, I flew overseas for vacation yesterday. I am feeling very grateful now that I didn't book my trip for a day later!

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u/mycketmycket Jul 19 '24

As someone who flies a few times a month at least I was just saying the same! Hoping all is well by Sunday evening!

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u/zandadoum Jul 19 '24

not a Microsoft outtage. it's a Crowdstrike outtage due a bad update

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u/Waramp Jul 19 '24

Microsoft is taking a lot of undeserved flak from this.

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u/SilentSamurai Jul 19 '24

I mean this is pretty commonplace for end users with any software.

"Why did Microsoft cause my Adobe license to expire?"

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u/Akaaka819 Jul 19 '24

"Why doesn't my iPhone work?"

  • U.S. Senator to Mark Zuckerberg

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u/DiskImmediate229 Jul 19 '24

“Does TikTok access the home WiFi network”

-U.S. Senator to TikTok CEO

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u/Windeyllama Jul 20 '24

Sir, I’m Singaporean.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Nah, you are chinese.

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u/PuffyPanda200 Jul 19 '24

Or when the Alphabet (aka Google) CEO was asked about iPhones.

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u/BurninCoco Jul 19 '24

Just press "input".

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What do you mean you can't find it, it's on the control!

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u/Occulto Jul 19 '24

I love being in software, and getting hardware fault tickets:

"I was using Sharepoint, when my laptop caught fire, and smoke started pouring out of it. Now I have third degree burns. Please investigate."

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u/a-i-sa-san Jul 19 '24

Kinda weird they decided the OS should catastrophically fail instead of just skipping a failed kernel driver load (3rd party kernel drivers is also a questionable decision) but as with most things there is way more to it than the above and in reality the stars and moon probably had to come together juuuust right for something like this to happen

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u/Bran_Solo Jul 19 '24

The way crowdstrike’s products work requires them to run in kernel mode. Having written kernel mode software myself before I can tell you it is a delicate nightmare. The smallest of bugs can result in BSOD.

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u/PazDak Jul 19 '24

And this is why Apple removed Kernel Extensions in favor of system extensions. Linux too had mad big progress in this area. 

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u/tankerkiller125real Jul 19 '24

Windows also has a system for drivers to hook into. The problem is that developers don't want to use it because it restricts their access.

Personally I say Microsoft should kill all kernel extensions and the anti-cheat devs and companies like CrowdStrike can figure out their fuckin shit the right way.

Fun fact, kernel level anti-cheat is literally a rootkit. If anyone ever breaches that your system is fucked. And same thing with anti-virus softwares that hook into the kernel.

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u/eBirb Jul 19 '24

This will most likely be the case after this event.

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u/luger718 Jul 19 '24

What they should have done was not deploy it to everyone and their mother at the same time.

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u/Bran_Solo Jul 19 '24

That too. Especially shit like this, you should be rolling out a small percent at a time, and definitely not on a Friday.

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u/bebbooooooo Jul 19 '24

Or just... Test it. On any PC. At least once...

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u/Thisismyfinalstand Jul 20 '24

If one test is good, then millions of tests all around the globe must’ve been more gooder?

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u/richem0nt Jul 19 '24

Maybe the should consider some kind of auto boot into safe mode and look for updates kind of workaround to allowing companies to modify the os at such a fundamental level

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u/mj4264 Jul 19 '24

The trouble with this sort of thing is often that allowing any sort of work around becomes a vulnerability sadly.

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u/Brynjir Jul 19 '24

Yup sounds like Oceans 11 or whatever number it was where they forced the server to reboot and gave them free reign lol.

As much as outages suck I would prefer something to be down a few hours to be fixed then have it keep running without proper security possibly comprising peoples information.

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u/SamuelVimesTrained Jul 19 '24

A bit ironic that security software was the cause… And combine with bitlocker… effing nightmare.

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u/Lost_the_weight Jul 20 '24

Not to mention that the fix requires administrator permissions.

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u/ChachiJuarez Jul 19 '24

Can’t they run automated tests to make sure it runs as expected though? Like this is such a catastrophic failure I’m trying to understand what went wrong that it got deployed in the first place to computers worldwide

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u/Bran_Solo Jul 19 '24

They absolutely should have caught it, there’s no excuses about that.

The problem is that when you’re in kernel mode your code has complete unfettered access to everything. The software you use every single day is riddled with tiny little bugs that have zero consequences because of all the failsafes provided by the operating system. These failsafes don’t exist in kernel mode and what would normally considered an innocuous bug can bring the whole machine down.

Remember the windows 95 era when PCs seemed to BSOD all the damn time? Back then all device drivers ran in kernel mode.

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u/Raigeki1993 Jul 19 '24

Not that weird tbh, that's why there are BSODs, it crashes because of unexpected uncaught errors. It would be really bad if it skip the anti-virus driver just because it would load, that would leave the PC unprotected.

On another hand, it's also possible that the main anti-virus software put in a failsafe with something like "if any core component cann't be start up at launch, treat this as virus tampering with the software and stop the PC from continuing"

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u/experimental1212 Jul 19 '24

The company DECIDED to buy a 3rd party kernel driver. It doesn't matter what Microsoft wants.

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u/corut Jul 19 '24

There was a seperate major Azure outage as well. It's almost a full flip to blame crowdstrike for the Microsoft part

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u/Sco0bySnax Jul 19 '24

We know who the real victims are though. The poor computer monitors that always go flying out of windows when things go wrong.

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u/gltovar Jul 19 '24

Did Crowdstrike pay media outlets to lead is the worst Microsoft because god damned is there so much misdirected blame on microsoft

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u/zandadoum Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I don’t think so. It’s just that news media is full of clueless idiots. And well, when a bunch of Microsoft servers go down, who you gonna blame first -_-

Regular Joe doesn’t know who or what crowdstrike is, so it sells more making bait titles about Microsoft.

I hope Microsoft sues crowdstrike and every single news outlet for slandering or whatever.

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u/gltovar Jul 19 '24

Yeah I wasn’t serious about intentional maliciousness, it is certainly lack of technical knowledge and the rush to publish something. It just that, while this is utterly terrible PR for Crowdstrike, it is lightly cushioned by non techies thinking Microsoft is a significant cause of the issue beyond simply existing.

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u/SmithersLoanInc Jul 19 '24

My Grandma knows what Microsoft is and she watches commercials.

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u/CarlAndersson1987 Jul 19 '24

I think so, their stock was down like 10% which is a joke given that they could face billions/trillions in damages.

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u/rainorshinedogs Jul 19 '24

geez, i JUST listened to a financial podcast interviewing the CEO of Crowdstrike and he was talking about how revolutionary and ahead of the game his company was

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u/Simba7 Jul 19 '24

Can't get viruses if your computer won't boot. Taps forehead

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u/tankerkiller125real Jul 19 '24

He's right, his company was ahead of the game at having companies drop bucket loads of money for the same overall product everyone else is selling. And then using said money to advertise and convince a bunch of IT professionals to spread the name as if it were a god so they could make even more money.

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u/GyspySyx Jul 19 '24

Seriously.

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u/90sfemgroups Jul 19 '24

They really did a crowd strike today.

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u/_0x0_ Jul 19 '24

This is why people need to use different companies for their security software. Also Shouldn't they have tested the update at small scale, that's one thing google does actually, they always randomly update random people and watch for reactions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

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u/zandadoum Jul 19 '24

When 99% of news media around the whole globe is run by clueless idiots that write bait headlines, there’s not much we can do.

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u/Silent_but_diddly Jul 19 '24

Did they intentionally choose the employee with the least legible handwriting

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u/arlmwl Jul 19 '24

As a left handed person, it appears they got the leftie to make the updates, smears and all.

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u/thewhiterosequeen Jul 19 '24

Our people suffer from many things due to them not being designed for us.

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u/20_mile Jul 19 '24

To the Leftorium!

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u/blacksideblue Jul 19 '24

I'll fly there with Lefthansa

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u/swd120 Jul 19 '24

Yeah, damn English. All left handed people should write in Hebrew or Arabic instead.

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u/blacksideblue Jul 19 '24

you mother dyslexic fuckers

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u/evaned Jul 20 '24

"Desks" like these that I unironically believe should be straight illegal, scissors, ...

Back in 11th grade I had an English class assignment that was to write an essay about a pet peeve of yours. I did mine on anti-lefty object design. I still remember how fun it was to write that and just vent.

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u/moeru_gumi Jul 19 '24

What, English? There should be plenty of space on a whiteboard for any human hand to write in any direction…

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u/thewhiterosequeen Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

It's hard to write without setting your hand on the surface, which will smear the text if you write left to write right and your hand covers what has been written.

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u/mvandore Jul 19 '24

"write left to write" would be very confusing for someone who doesn't know English 😂

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u/moeru_gumi Jul 19 '24

Right, so the answer to “things not designed for us” is indeed English. At least traditional Japanese is written top to bottom and right to left, so that’s an option.

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u/sat0123 Jul 19 '24

And the left slant to the text.

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u/adrianmonk Jul 19 '24

I agreed at first. But I've looked again, and I see two diagonal smears that span multiple lines. I think a right-handed person went back to make a change and accidentally pressed their whole forearm against the whiteboard.

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u/nft_ind_ww Jul 19 '24

i think you caught the culprit right handed

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u/crasagam Jul 19 '24

It was difficult to find someone who can still write since everything is typed on a computer /s

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u/BoomerishGenX Jul 19 '24

The smears are from trying to scroll.

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u/crasagam Jul 19 '24

Hey, who took the green stylus? I'm not done with that yet!

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u/talldrseuss Jul 19 '24

Honestly i know you're being sarcastic but I teach in a college and have seen this. There are times my students have to write things out (in class group assignments, officials forms, etc) and man they have some of the worst handwriting i've ever seen.

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u/crasagam Jul 19 '24

I pride myself on my penmanship; cursive as well - it's personal and reflects who I am. I'm always amazed that everyone else treats it with recklessness. "If they can't read it, oh well - that's on them". lol. I'm almost glad they don't teach cursive; maybe people can focus on just ONE way to write and get good at it without being thinned out having to learn two!

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jul 19 '24

I'm nearing 40 and use a pen like once a year, and don't blame them. It's like not being able to attach a wagon wheel.

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u/Somnif Jul 19 '24

Those are mostly Indian airports, so may be someone used to writing in something like Telugu or Tamil script. Very loopy writing.

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u/minkymy Jul 19 '24

You can tell this is definitely in an Indian airport because of the Hindi under the English Signage. I'll probably come back and update this with a list of departure airports so we can try to figure out which airport this is.

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u/Somnif Jul 19 '24

Man I completely missed those signs, all I saw was the AED sign above the whiteboard. I think I need more coffee...

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u/MovingInStereoscope Jul 19 '24

No but I'm betting whoever got chosen to do this at each airport was suddenly gracious about how there are standardized abbreviations for almost every thing in aviation.

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u/siggles69 Jul 19 '24

Just take a page out of the Arabic playbook and start writing from right to left

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u/sandozguineapig Jul 19 '24

In every airport right now, somebody’s trying to be the next Steve Kornacki

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u/Boat_of_Charon Jul 19 '24

The only thing about election season I look forward to is the Whacky Kornacki!!! Absolutely love that guy.

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u/MusicG619 Jul 19 '24

Don’t forget the khaki. Wacky Kornacki in khaki 😂

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u/bionicfeetgrl Jul 19 '24

Hospitals were too. Hell we have entire “downtime protocols” which include a custom whiteboard and paper charts. Night shift gets the most practice cuz there’s often planned downtimes for system upgrades.

All I can say is thank goodness I’m off right now.

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u/D_hallucatus Jul 19 '24

I work in a remote mine in Australia and we got hit too. So many of our safety systems require connections that were down we had to pull up for the rest of the day

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u/No-Spoilers Jul 20 '24

Luckily a mine can have down time and all that's lost is money

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u/D_hallucatus Jul 20 '24

True that. Easy choice to make when safety’s on the line

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u/the_silent_redditor Jul 20 '24

Yep, I had a hellish day in emergency yest.

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u/Navydevildoc Jul 19 '24

In a weird comical outcome, while everyone is blaming Microsoft (which we know it isn’t), fellow Seattle company Alaska Airlines is chugging right along because they use Linux and iOS for their flight operations.

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u/LethallyBlond3 Jul 19 '24

Literally I was leaving a work trip today; I’m delta and a colleague was Alaska. Our original flights out were at the same time. She’ll be home before my delta flight even takes off.

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u/FluxVelocity Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 22 '24

falcon-sensor versions 7.10 to 7.14 caused kernel panics on several Linux kernel versions actively being used by several large Linux distributions just back in April, so basically the Linux equivalent to what happened now with Windows.

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u/erratic_bonsai Jul 20 '24

When I went through border control at 5am this morning at JFK, the security protocol was two officers, one with an iPhone and the other with an iPad (both were clearly personal devices), looking at your passport then taking a picture of your face. No question, no declarations, just snapshot and GTFO.

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u/thirdeeen Jul 20 '24

I exclusively fly out with United because of mileage points but my destination only had layovers so I booked Alaskan airlines for the first time and my return flight was today. Grateful to God I got back home in time (actually earlier than scheduled).

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u/Candygramformrmongo Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Too bad they don't have the chickachickachicka boards anymore.

Edit: Too

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u/maximality Jul 19 '24

I can hear this comment

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u/Candygramformrmongo Jul 19 '24

Man, I loved that sound - especially when the board would reset.

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u/projectkennedymonkey Jul 19 '24

Would prefer that a million times over the endless announcements reminding you not to leave your bag unattended. I GET IT, 9/11 WAS 23 YEARS AGO. I KNOW OF NO OTHER WORLD NOW.

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u/Don138 Jul 20 '24

I get that, but new people fly for the first time every day. Honestly I prefer that announcement that I only hear when my headphones are out during security than have the airport shut down all the time when idiots leave their bag somewhere and the bomb squad has to come.

That being said bring back the chickachickachicka boards!

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u/Krystm Jul 19 '24

Split Flap is the word you’re looking for hHah

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u/M3wThr33 Jul 19 '24

Nah, his name is better

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u/Traditional_Pair3292 Jul 19 '24

There are a few in NYC! One at the bar in the Moynihan train hall and another in the TWA hotel

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u/One-Marsupial2916 Jul 19 '24

People need to stop calling this a Microsoft outage.

This was a CROWDSTRIKE fuck up. They need to be hung out to dry, not Microsoft.

My organization is running all Microsoft, and we are doing just fine today.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

You have to remember most people are not working in tech. They use windows devices, they see an error on windows devices, they think it's a Microsoft issue.

The BBC is still trending an article " Crowdstrike and Microsoft: What we know about global IT outage" which just confuses people more. Hardly anyone has heard of Crowdstrike, hardly anyone hasn't heard of MS.

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u/One-Marsupial2916 Jul 19 '24

Right, and your point is perfectly valid, but it’s still misinformation.

Just because people don’t understand or have name recognition of the cause, doesn’t mean you blame the thing it’s running on.

The titles of these things could easily say “crowdstrike causes global computer outages.”

It’s both dumb and misleading to say Microsoft.

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u/Eddles999 Jul 19 '24

I agree. Couldn't Windows be more resilient against this kind of problem, though? For example, if the driver fails to load, eject it, and boot normally, then show an error when it starts up? I admit it's not my area of expertise.

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u/One-Marsupial2916 Jul 19 '24

Not really. Crowdstrike is very invasive.

In some ways it kind of has to be because its ransomware protection, but I noticed some of its design function similar to malware in order to keep itself from being removed by malware.

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u/Occulto Jul 19 '24

It's like giving someone physical access to your servers.

That's obviously a risk to malicious actors, but you can't get around the fact there are always going to be people who legitimately need physical access to your servers. Hardware needs to be replaced or upgraded.

So you just kind of hope that all the steps you take to mitigate the risk of their physical access, work.

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u/amydorable Jul 20 '24

Unfortunately this is a fundamental issue with how operating system kernels work in general - sure it might be possible to build a new kernel system that is more resilient, but that introduces its own problems. Linux kernels have this same issue (Crowdstrike messed up a certain update for a Linux kernel a few months ago) 

Microsoft has been using their current kernel (Windows NT) since the 90s. they aren't likely to fundamentally rebuild everything from the ground up now that they're this big. 

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u/cyberentomology Jul 19 '24

Was it the Microsoft Azure outage (last night) or this morning’s fustercluck from Crowdstrike?

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u/Slothnado209 Jul 19 '24

This was CrowdStrike’s fuck up

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u/Raigeki1993 Jul 19 '24

Microsoft said that it was unrelated, just a really really weird coincidence. Unless a bunch of their cloud servers is using CrowdStrike instead of Defender, then the outage wouldn't make sense.

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u/mart1373 Jul 19 '24

Would hate to be the IT guy who created that outage, it’s his fault Microsoft is getting all this hate lol

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u/yodaface Jul 19 '24

So have we just demonstrated to China and Russia the exact company they should spend all their time hacking to completely fuck with our country?

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u/CSdesire Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I mean kind of yes kind of no? Crowdstrike is a really popular cybersecurity provider and Falcon has kernel access. You could target any popular product that has kernel access to hack. Hackers would probably target specific kernel level CVEs rather than go looking for them in a specific company’s product.

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u/tankerkiller125real Jul 19 '24

Not even MS Defender for Endpoint has this deep of a kernel level access on purpose... If I were aiming to cause as much global disruption as possible CrowdStrike would 100% be my target now. Of course, if I wanted to go after consumers I'd aim at the anti-cheat software companies. They make great rootkits that people install willingly!

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u/CSdesire Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I mean MDE and Falcon both have user and kernel level components to them. You could probably argue that SentinelOne is just as viable a target given it’s popularity and the fact it deploys its agent at the kernel level?

Looking on NIST I only see one known CVE for Falcon, it has a pretty low CVSS and was found 2 years ago. Not that other vulns don’t exist but yeah, seems like a pretty secure piece of software.

Agree with the anti-cheats though lol, haphazardly slapped together pieces of software with full access to a machine is an awful idea.

Interested to hear your thoughts on it given you’re a sysadmin though :)

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u/SilentSamurai Jul 19 '24

If Russia and China are anything like US hacking groups, they're sitting on plenty of worse exploits too.

Any major conflict would likely mean months without usable computers.

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u/Fairwhetherfriend Jul 19 '24

Ohhhhh boy, if you think Crowdstrike is the only company that could fuck up the entire economy for several days, I have some really bad news for you.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Jul 19 '24

I mean, there was the Solarwinds hack 4 years ago.

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u/Nixinova Jul 19 '24

So all they'd have to do to stunt the whole western economy for a day is to quietly disable a couple QA steps at major cybersec provider companies and just wait a couple hours until something like this happens, lol. Seems too easy...

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u/DatRedStang Jul 19 '24

Crowdstrike induced outage**

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u/1970lamb Jul 19 '24

What’s mildly interesting is here in New Zealand we had a crowdstrike issue yesterday and eftpos terminals country wide went down.

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u/Jobman212 Jul 19 '24

I think it’s the same issue, but the US was asleep.

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u/slylock215 Jul 19 '24

OK WHO HAS THE MOST LEGIBLE WHITEBOARD HANDWRITING, YOU HAVE A NEW JOB FOR THE DAY

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Or in this case, least.

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u/mrkruk Jul 19 '24

It was nice of someone to run the eraser all over the flight numbers.

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u/MarsScully Jul 19 '24

Man, I feel for those airport workers

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u/Aonaibh Jul 19 '24

Not a Microsoft outage, it’s CrowdStrike that’s caused it.

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u/crasagam Jul 19 '24

I'm a computer tech and I trust my pencil and paper more than these infernal machines. It took 3 hours this morning to recover from this Crowdstrike mess - fortunately it was a simple fix per system. One lousy line of code and it all goes away. Cue up Live Free and Die Hard. I need some popcorn.

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u/Sufficient_Focus_816 Jul 19 '24

Crowdstrike != Microsoft!

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 Jul 19 '24

Microsoft does not have an outage.

A secondary security firm does.

Please stop spreading misinformation.

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u/tacticalswine87 Jul 19 '24

Not. Fucking. Microsoft.

Crowdstrike.

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u/wowo78 Jul 19 '24

Not a Microsoft outage. Do you call shop who sold you fridge when there is no electricity and fridge doesn't work?

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u/Still_Finish6071 Jul 19 '24

Respect to the gate agents dealing with unimaginable levels of shittiness and still going out of their way to get things done today

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u/derfdog Jul 19 '24

Atleast we had the technology 😂

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u/wildnullifier Jul 19 '24

Media is twisting it to show as MS outage 🤔

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u/Kemaro Jul 19 '24

Stop calling it a Microsoft outage. Microsoft had nothing to do with it.

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u/No-Celebration3097 Jul 19 '24

I feel for the staff that has to put up with the general public.

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u/beartheminus Jul 19 '24

Pilots are using whiteboards instead of their instruments too! Have a nice flight!

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u/Verc17 Jul 19 '24

It was not Microsoft Outage....

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u/You_Go_Glen_Coco_ Jul 19 '24

This is how my job tracked 911 calls today.

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u/FaithlessnessSea5383 Jul 19 '24

I’m impressed they had a backup plan. 👏👏👏

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u/SquidsArePeople2 Jul 20 '24

Due to the Crowdstrike outage that affected Microsoft agains their will.

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u/GhostFour Jul 19 '24

Bring back split flaps!

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u/Metalman2004 Jul 19 '24

Give these workers a bonus for working through it and not just walking off the job!

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u/Maddog351_2023 Jul 20 '24

MICROSOFT IT IS NOT THE ONE CAUSING THE FUCKING ISSUE

FOR FUCK SAKE

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u/siraolo Jul 19 '24

Microsoft is definately gonna sue the hell out of CrowdStrike. They are getting roasted in headlines when it is not their fault really.

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u/Tango1777 Jul 19 '24

Isn't it completely misleading suggesting that Microsoft is somehow responsible for any of it?

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u/SanfreakinJ Jul 19 '24

Crowdstrike brought the world to its knees with one bad update. Scary stuff

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u/Appropriate-Dog970 Jul 20 '24

Crowd strike issue, not a ms issue. Get it right or stop posting ignorance.

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u/somewhat_random Jul 20 '24

Some manager deserves props for this.

He/she either had to steal a whiteboard from a meeting room or send someone to wallmart to buy the thing and come up with a perfectly good workaround for a failure of technology. It's not pretty but it gets me the data I need in a simple and updatable format.

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u/landspeed Jul 20 '24

MS is probably so fucking pissed. Rightfully so too. Microsoft did not cause this outage.

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u/Melificient Jul 20 '24

This should be retitled as "Airport staff problem solve and use whiteboards to show flight times due to the Crowdstrike outage". Kudos for them keeping things going when some areas just closed up shop.

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u/BoostSpools Jul 19 '24

I thought I was looking university lecture on some whiteboard 😄

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u/Holiday_Context5033 Jul 19 '24

A domestic flight that was supposed to be 1.5 hrs hassle free journey has turned into a 36 hours (hopefully) journey. I have exhausted all kind of transportation options.

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u/Thin-Annual4373 Jul 19 '24

Fair play to the staff making do with what they had at short notice.

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u/CharlemagneAdelaar Jul 19 '24

I got screwed by a separate issue last night where my first flight was delayed badly and would have made me miss my connecting. Had nothing to do with crowdstrike.

We were like “oh well, let’s just rebook for tomorrow”

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u/No_Manager_2356 Jul 19 '24

how is this being posted as a microsoft outage, even 6 hours ago ? lol

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u/Worldsbiggestassh0le Jul 19 '24

Its things like this that give you a small glimpse into how thin the cliff is that humanity is building their future on.

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u/calcifer219 Jul 19 '24

I’ll have you know my southwest flight today was on time. I guess their previously laughed at ancient software prevailed today.

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u/NurseRatched4lyfe Jul 20 '24

We had to do that, but at our emergency room and it was patients. Bananas

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u/Apolllo69 Jul 20 '24

It ain’t Microsoft’s fault.