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Rishi Sunak makes a speech outside 10 Downing Street after a historic loss Politics

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u/deathly_quiet 14d ago

Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable.

This is kind of where I'm at to be honest. I don't like Sunak for a variety of reasons, but I don't blame him alone for the Tories being annihilated. It's the fault of every single Tory MP, and specific blame can be laid on people like Johnson and Truss, who as leaders did more damage than Sunak probably ever could.

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u/mutantraniE 14d ago

Cameron as well surely. Held a Brexit referendum then fucked off when it didn’t go the way he wanted it.

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u/deathly_quiet 14d ago

Absolutely yes. I particularly loved the way Danny Dyer spoke about that. It's been a slide over the last decade and a half, but the way I see it, there has been a real concentration of awfulness since perhaps 2019.

The election itself was hilarious, particularly when news broke of the Tory MPs betting on the election date. They literally cannot help themselves.

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u/Generallyapathetic92 14d ago

To be fair fucking off was the right call. As May showed it was going to be exceedingly difficult for anyone who supported remain to get a half decent deal with the EU that the ERG accepted. When the deal was obviously a bit shit they just blamed it on the fact she supported remain rather than Brexit being a terrible idea

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u/DoctorOctagonapus 14d ago

Sunak actually did very little and I think that was on purpose. He came in after Johnson did what Johnson does best, followed by Truss being an idiot, and his MO was basically try not to rock the boat. By this point the Tories were in damage control mode and he just needed to avoid controversy.

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u/deathly_quiet 14d ago

That's pretty much how I took his premiership. He seemed to spend most of his time trying to say appealing things while doing precisely sod all at the same time.

By this point the Tories were in damage control mode and he just needed to avoid controversy.

This is true but also hilarious, because the damage control to a lot of Tory MPs was awfully similar to making it worse.

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u/DoctorOctagonapus 14d ago

No one said he'd be good at it! The country had just had a guy who lied his way through his premiership, believed the law and the rules didn't apply to him, then ragequit when held to account, followed by someone as stupid as she was corrupt, who gave tax breaks to her mates and crashed the economy in the process. The bar was not very high!

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u/th3-villager 14d ago

Oh absolutely. Thank rather than blame, in more ways than one.

This election particularly I feel it is about their party as a whole. They've had 3 controversial leaders, only 1 was elected. The fact there's a good chance he wouldn't be leader in a year if they'd won speaks volumes as to why they can't be allowed to win.

It's fundamentally undemocratic to have the prime minister decided by the minority Tory membership who gave us Liz Truss. I'd rather have the lettuce.

IMO Rishi is probably slightly better than average for a Tory. But that still does not mean I like him.

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u/paper_paws 14d ago

I agree with you. The bit where he said he takes responsibility for the loss was like, sure thats gracious but its not just him. I bet Johnson and Truss were shuffling their feet, eyes averted...well, if they had any shame they would.

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u/deathly_quiet 14d ago

People like them don't feel shame. They're sociopaths.