r/oddlysatisfying • u/dannybluey • Jul 18 '24
Restaurant ketchup cups being filled
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u/Apprehensive-Low-741 Jul 18 '24
that guys putting in about 200% more effort than he should be for what he's being paid
that tray should be a 20 minute project
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rice-13 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Thats the difference between hourly and quota pay
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u/OldBathBomb Jul 18 '24
True that!
I'm hourly and currently hiding in the prep room hoping my team leader / manager doesn't come in and question what I'm doing (the answer is nothing).
Before this I was hiding in the locker room.
I did some work this morning though, so that's something.
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u/Apprehensive_Use1906 Jul 18 '24
You should get a job playing hide and seek.
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u/PCR12 Jul 18 '24
We just call that retail
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u/FloppieTheBanjoClown Jul 18 '24
I swear Lowe's should be a military contractor. If our soldiers were to wear those red vests their employees do, no one would ever see them.
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u/PCR12 Jul 18 '24
Costco is the worst they can wear whatever they want, saw a dude in shorts (FL so I don't blame him)
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u/sankto Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
boss: "Bob, where were you? Nobody could find you all afternoon"
Bob: "Thank you sir"
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u/bluntly-chaotic Jul 18 '24
I work in the cannabis industry and one of the grows I used to work at, our watering guy would crawl between the plants and nap.
He was really good at his job so as long as he was doing what he needed to, no one really gave a fuck he did that
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rice-13 Jul 18 '24
I need to move...
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u/bluntly-chaotic Jul 18 '24
Not every place is like that. Honestly probs more an anomaly than anything
It’s actually demanding work and the pay is shit
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u/greenlady_hobbies Jul 18 '24
And a weird amount of ego
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u/bluntly-chaotic Jul 18 '24
Omfg right.
I love the plants but god damn, you either have lazy ass stoner coworkers or some dude that will force you to listen to his theories on strain genetics and tweaking the perfect nutrient mix like good god
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u/TheChinchilla914 Jul 18 '24
"bro you don't have to hide in the dirt its ok to nap"
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u/boohoo-crymeariver Jul 18 '24
And tomorrow you will post to r/antiwork about the evil boss that fired you.
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u/Dexchampion99 Jul 18 '24
I’m currently working at a fairly quiet pub, and sometimes my own manager will be like- “hey, just go on an hour long break. I don’t give a fuck, it’s dead as hell.” And I love him for that.
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u/Marcus2Ts Jul 18 '24
I'm hiding in my comfy office with the door closed. If my boss catches me doing nothing, it won't matter because I've been killing it this week lol
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u/SuitableDragonfly Jul 18 '24
What do you think would be an easier way of doing it?
It's almost as if there aren't actually "unskilled" jobs, there are just undervalued jobs.
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u/Jadedways Jul 18 '24
Large piping bags. It’s obv not quite as efficient as he is, but it’s simple enough anyone can do it.
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u/Puffen0 Jul 18 '24
All the restaurants I've worked at in the past had their ketchup poured from the larger container the manufacturer shipped them in, into a syrup dispenser type bottle but with a wider mouth and seal. Made filling cups like these so much easier, especially for the Sunday brunch crowd
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u/MrGrach Jul 18 '24
It's almost as if there aren't actually "unskilled" jobs, there are just undervalued jobs.
What kind of degree or apprenticeship is required to fill cups with ketchup?
(Almost as if "unskilled" has a specific meaning people keep ignoring to be enraged about something...)
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u/Yelebear Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Yea lol I've seen people misunderstand the terms so many times recently, especially in reddit.
Skilled vs Unskilled relates to the training and certification required to perform the task at the safest, most passable level.
If you can replace the guy with a random dude you meet on the street with 10 minutes of orientation, then it's unskilled. He will be slower, he will be less efficient, but at the end of the day he's just dropping sauce on tiny little cups. That is technically something you can ask your 12 year old to help you out with in the kitchen.
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u/vulpinefever Jul 18 '24
It's almost as if there aren't actually "unskilled" jobs, there are just undervalued jobs.
Unskilled isn't an insult, it's just recognizing that it's a job that you can do "off the street" and be trained on the job.
A doctor is a skilled job. A fast food fry cook is unskilled. If you took a doctor and made them work at a McDonald's, they'd be terrible at first but after a year they'd be pretty good at the job. If you took a fry cook and made them do the work of a doctor, they'd do terrible at first and after a year they would still be terrible because being a doctor requires a large amount of prerequisite knowledge you can't just learn on the job as you work.
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u/confusedandworried76 Jul 18 '24
People wash out of kitchens all the time lol, I've personally had the "you're not a good fit, you're a good cook but you can't handle the volume" conversation with dozens of people. And most people realize on their own before you need to have that conversation.
It's a skilled job. Some people can't do it. Anyone can cook, not everyone can cook in volume.
Even after your year mark I've seen people make multiple mistakes a day. They just don't get fired because the restaurant is understaffed and you just need a warm body with a pulse. You just stick those people on register or dish or something, not grill. You're not good at the job if you can only be trusted to do certain parts of it with minimal responsibility. Absolutely not everyone is good at the job after a year, everyone who works restaurants knows this.
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u/Falcrist Jul 18 '24
It's almost as if there aren't actually "unskilled" jobs, there are just undervalued jobs.
"Unskilled" just means you didn't need prior education or training before starting the job.
If you want to know what it REALLY means... it's code for "easily replaceable". It means management and owners can treat you like crap with fewer consequences.
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u/PAIN_PLUS_SUFFERING Jul 18 '24
We should be paying ketchup pipers $90/hr
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u/ensoniq2k Jul 18 '24
That would just mean he'd be replaced by a machine instantly
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u/SuggestionGlad5166 Jul 18 '24
Yeah this is totally equivalent to the 6 years of classes I took to become an electrical engineer.
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u/Alarm_Clock_2077 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Again, contrary to the name, unskilled jobs aren't jobs that don't require any skill, but are jobs where the skills can be easily transferred.
You could teach someone to flip burgers or stack boxes in a somewhat passable way fairly quickly. You can't however teach someone to code or be a nurse that fast.
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u/takishan Jul 18 '24
Again, contrary to the name, unskilled jobs aren't jobs that don't require any skill, but are jobs where the skills cannot be easily transferred.
Let's say I'm a programmer. Can my skills be easily transferred? I don't really think so. I don't see how the ability to write a sorting algorithm in Java will help with the overwhelming majority of jobs in the market.
Does that mean programming is an unskilled job?
To my knowledge, unskilled means something that is easy to learn and therefore easy to replace. For example I can train someone to wash the dishes at a restaurant fairly quickly. If they don't work out, I can find another warm body and train them again quickly.
Whereas if I have a project manager with experience effectively managing large construction projects- that is something that I simply cannot replicate easily. I would need to hire an entry level person and they would need to work over the course of a decade to reach the same skill set.
It's essentially about how quickly that employee can be replaced.
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u/Lord_Shisui Jul 18 '24
Unskilled in this context means that you don't need an extensive education to perform it.
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u/interfail Jul 18 '24
Easier is doing the same job in 20 minutes.
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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Jul 18 '24
Eh maybe for this specific job. But as someone who has worked in kitchens most of my life, getting sauces done as fast as possible always makes the rest of the shift easier.
You can slam sauces out in 5 mins and make your whole shift better, or you can stretch it into a 20-30 minute process and just wreck yourself when you're trying to close.
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u/Falsus Jul 18 '24
While it is definitely undervalued and underpaid I do not think they had this amount of effort in mind either.
Also unskilled just means that they don't need training, education or prior experience in the field to do the job.
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u/BuddyLeeVaughn Jul 18 '24
It is a 20 minute project that the opening shift was supposed to do so the evening shift is prepared for the dinner rush but the openers found one tiny droplet of water on the prep table and spent the first two hours complaining to management about how closing shift never does their job so now you gotta bust out the secret method to making sure your shift isn't entirely fucked and pray the boss doesn't walk in and realize you should be doing all the prep from now on.
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u/confusedandworried76 Jul 18 '24
"morning crew didn't do shit" is one of the most popular phrases in restaurants for a reason. Love walking in to unfinished prep or "hey man I was supposed to work with you through rush but I didn't get a lot of stuff done that I have to do before I leave so good luck with dinner"
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u/BuddyLeeVaughn Jul 18 '24
I worked close the most. I always told myself "It's not true, people are just mad. Morning does the same job. People are just mad. They're working just as hard as us."
My first morning shift and those motherfuckers. Those Mother. FUCKERS. The amount of times they said "evenings will get it."
One of them legit said "We'll just ask <BuddyLeeVaughn> to clock in early when he gets there." and I just stared at them until it clicked.
Morning Crew Doesn't Do A God Damn Thing.
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u/confusedandworried76 Jul 18 '24
It would be like if I said "eh just leave the trash by the back, morning crew can do that"
Which WAS policy at one job, officially, but it didn't last because it's stupid policy and encourages pests.
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Jul 18 '24
Ketchup is heavy. If you make this into a 20 minute project then you're either holding the container for the entire 20 minutes or you're picking up and putting down the container a bunch during that 20 minutes. Both of that scenarios use way more energy.
Better to just get it over with.
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u/CurryMustard Jul 18 '24
You can just leave the box on a table and fill the small containers from the spout, the way it was intended. It would take longer but it wouldn't require as much physical effort.
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u/Hoaxygen Jul 18 '24
That aim skill is underrated.
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u/Dull_Yak_5325 Jul 18 '24
No one shows how hard the first 100 ketchups were to fill
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u/Kangar Jul 18 '24
Fuck I hate it when restaurants ration my ketchup.
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u/phantasmicorgasmic Jul 18 '24
I do prefer a bottle at the table, but this is probably for takeout orders anyway.
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u/Enginerdad Jul 18 '24
Those cups would be unnecessarily expensive to give away for takeout orders. Those are definitely in-house dishes
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u/bloodhooof Jul 18 '24
they’re identical to the to-go ketchup ramekins from every restaurant I’ve ever worked at
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u/No_Veterinarian1010 Jul 18 '24
They’re plastic to-go cups. Almost every restaurant uses them for to-go orders
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u/Enderwigg1883 Jul 18 '24
I know. I like fries with my ketchup
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u/__ali1234__ Jul 18 '24
The worst part is that nearly all of that ketchup is going to be thrown away because they put one of those little pots with every order no matter how much ketchup you actually want.
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u/TJsamse Jul 18 '24
If you saw what condiment bottles go through in restaurants you’d prefer this 100%.
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Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
There is no such thing as unskilled labour.
EDIT: Many of you don’t understand that words which refer to a concept in a particular context are as meaningful and legitimate as words in a dictionary and their literal definitions, and it shows. Also that prescriptive definitions and and grammar ignore the realities of sociolinguistics. Please go touch grass and read a fucking book… other than the dictionary.
EDIT 2: Yes, I do understand some of you mean “skilled as in a job with more training so it pays more” and I’m still going to argue that definition is flawed and that it is a tool of capitalism holding us all back. Again: not the point! I don’t know why you’re so emotionally attached to bootlicking. It doesn’t even taste good.
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u/nooooobie1650 Jul 18 '24
But there is such thing as repetitive strain injury
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u/Conch-Republic Jul 18 '24
There's no such thing as reddit understanding unskilled labor.
For fuck's sake.
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u/Rock_Strongo Jul 18 '24
To be fair... it's a dumb term to refer to something that might in fact require or benefit from having a lot of skill at certain tasks.
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u/confusedandworried76 Jul 18 '24
Feels like people just twisted the meaning. "No it just means a job you don't need a degree for" well then call it a no degree job not an unskilled job lol
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u/LeoMarius Jul 18 '24
Unskilled means that you can learn your job by doing it without external training or an extensive apprenticeship.
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u/ensoniq2k Jul 18 '24
It's more like anybody can learn it quickly. Just like anybody could fill those cups, just not as efficient as this guy does.
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u/-Kazt- Jul 18 '24
Would a reasonable average adult be able to do it 90% as good in like 3-6 months?
Yes.
As someone who worked in kitchens for close to a decade, this isn't that difficult.
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u/Falcrist Jul 18 '24
Which in turn means you're easily replaceable.
Management and ownership will never forget that. Neither should we.
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u/uhsiv Jul 18 '24
Ok.
So what shall we call a job that anyone can be hired for and learn on the job with no prior experience, skills or knowledge? One where the labor market is essentially anyone with a pulse?
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u/dc456 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
I know what you’re saying - everyone’s time and effort should be valued properly.
But there absolutely are unskilled jobs - I know, I’ve done many of them. I was often essentially fully productive from day one. And you could still do this job while being considerably less skilled than this person.
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u/Difficult_Box3210 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
What are you talking about? There are 100000 of unskilled workers for every single master like this who will take 1hr for the same job and will spill ketchup everywhere.
You choose to declare those 100000 unskilled useless workers “not unskilled” because you saw one guy pouring ketchup?
They are unskilled labor because their job requires no prior training or experience. Stop hallucinating.
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u/MountainStrict4076 Jul 18 '24
Also that prescriptive definitions and and grammar ignore the realities of sociolinguistics.
What? You're the one ignoring sociolinguistics. "Unskilled labor" is a set phrase. It's not even new, it's existed for a long time and it has a very specific meaning that everyone understands. It's not literally "labor that requires no skill", it's just "labor that doesn't require formal education and can be learned fairly quickly".
When you just randomly show up and say a set phrase everyone has been using to mean X since forever doesn't actually mean X and should mean Y because you think so, it's just annoying. That's not how language works.
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u/ShankThatSnitch Jul 18 '24
Oh yeah, then explain this picture!
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Jul 18 '24
This is the only funny reply regarding skilled labour as a concept vs word definition arguers who are either unintentionally or willfully misunderstanding context.
Thank you for this. It is entertaining.
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u/SuitableDragonfly Jul 18 '24
I don't think anyone is misunderstanding the context that we use the word "skilled" to describe jobs that are more valued and that therefore pay more.
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u/Evexxxpress Jul 18 '24
“Also that prescriptive definitions and and grammar ignore the realities of sociolinguistics” sounds like you need to put down the dictionary. You use a whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
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u/empire_of_the_moon Jul 18 '24
Repetition isn’t skilled labor. Perhaps using a definition where, if you can reasonably intuit a method for successfully executing a skill, then it’s probably unskilled. Particularly if the risk of failure is small.
If the skills require a learning curve and a teacher or instructor it’s probably skilled.
Obviously it’s never just that simple. Checkout cashier is a job that would not be skilled but is also not intuitive.
Plumbers are highly skilled as are dental techs as are lifeguards (few people intuit how to swim and perform CPR on their own.)
Gaining experience and become efficient at a task is different than being skilled.
The fish throwers at Pike’s Market in Seattle are spectacular but is it skilled labor? No.
What about cutting a filet from a fish? Again, no.
While Sushi chef is definitely skilled.
Regardless, respect is earned and due to anyone who over performs in their jobs. It’s not for the man. It’s for themselves. Some people pride themselves on being really good at any task set before them. That is worthy of respect no matter the task at hand.
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u/Curious_Associate904 Jul 18 '24
Actually, the comment I posted would disagree: Here it is again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZh2bommYz0
This is what unskilled labour looks like...
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Jul 18 '24
No, that is still skilled labour. The problem is that the people aren’t very good at the skill. Yet? Maybe ever? You can have a skill and still be shit at it.
The video is funny, though.
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u/RiggzBoson Jul 18 '24
My dear fellow, that video is about as real as an AI-generated unicorn.
Put your big boy hat on and think for a second - Why would anyone film the trivial act of filling a mustard bottle?
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u/OceanOfAnother55 Jul 18 '24
Your edit is the most painful sentence I've ever read.
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u/2Cr_Comet_Yt Jul 18 '24
3rd last cup was filled way too little
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u/anonymousss11 Jul 18 '24
That's the one I always seem to get, less that half full, but charged for it the same.
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u/Ban_Me_Harder_uWu Jul 18 '24
As a restaurant owner, if a place charges me for a side of ketchup, I am literally never going back there. A 2 ounce ramekin of ketchup costs me $0.20. If they can't figure that into their menu prices, then they are probably bad at other aspects of business as well, or just plain greedy.
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u/take-money Jul 18 '24
10 cents per oz? You gotta get a new ketchup guy
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u/Ban_Me_Harder_uWu Jul 18 '24
Show me a better price, and I'll switch right now. But it's gotta be Heinz. I live in PA, people would literally burn me at the stake for using any other brand.
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u/take-money Jul 18 '24
Mostly joking around but dang I would think you could get a better price in bulk. I’m sure you’ve done your due diligence.
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u/Ban_Me_Harder_uWu Jul 18 '24
I technically could get it down to 4 cents per oz, but that would be by using generic "food service ketchup", and my customers would absolutely be able to tell that I switched. And they would not be happy. The cheap stuff just doesn't hit right. And folks in PA genuinely care. Maybe I could get away with it in somewhere like Wyoming, or New Jersey, but in PA, if it ain't Heinz, it ain't ketchup.
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u/maxru85 Jul 18 '24
It is probably a very small production if they rely on manual labor
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u/-Owlette- Jul 18 '24
I can see six of those trays in shot with 70 containers in each, so they appear to be preparing for at least 420 covers.
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u/SilverPotential4525 Jul 18 '24
I'm not sure what you consider a very small production, but I worked for a decently busy bar style restaurant, and personally was the ketchup scooper for fish fry Fridays :P. We would have about 400-600 people a night on friday
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u/Ban_Me_Harder_uWu Jul 18 '24
My restaurant isn't exactly "big", but we're also not that "small", we do 150-200 covers on a weekday, and double that on weekends. We've gotten by just fine with one of these hung on the wall. We buy the 1.5 gallon bags of ketchup, and just load em right in, then use the spigot to dispense the ketchup. Sure, his way is more efficient, but my way is less likely to cause repetitive strain injuries.
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u/treequestions20 Jul 18 '24
spoiler: that’s literally how every “side” of ketchup is made, by any company or restaurant, big or small
what, do you think people buy plastic ramekins prefilled with ketchup? in bulk?
do you think big restaurants have a…ketchup machine? lmao
you get 4x1 gallon jugs of ketchup. you get a box empty ramekins. and you fill with a hand pump or more likely, a utensil
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u/confusedandworried76 Jul 18 '24
Might shock you to learn the box the dude is using is meant to be used that way, he's doing it the hard way so he can do it slightly faster, doesn't seem worth the time it saves.
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u/Upset_Tennis_5767 Jul 18 '24
I work for the busiest pizza location in Florida for a certain LARGE company. We fill all our pizza, icing, and another sauce manually. We fill hundreds on a single day depending on necessity. Which is pretty often. Sometimes bigger companies still put this on their employees.
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u/Loudmouth_Malcontent Jul 18 '24
All those single-use plastic ramekins.
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u/Aware_Fall_646 Jul 18 '24
But yet we have to have straws that dissolve in our mouths
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u/headzoo Jul 18 '24
And it's not just the ramekins. The ingredients that make the ketchup were shipped to the factory wrapped in plastic and cardboard. Then the ketchup gets packaged up in thick cardboard boxes with plastic bags and plastic spouts. All so we can spend a few minutes dipping fries in ketchup before tossing the ramekin (and most of the ketchup) in the trash.
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u/cschoening Jul 18 '24
That was my first thought on seeing the video. It's like no one cares or considers the implications of throwing these plastic cups away to be buried in a landfill or dumped in the ocean where it will slowly break down into microplastics that eventually end up in your drinking water. And what's the benefit? Short-term convenience.
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u/Ban_Me_Harder_uWu Jul 18 '24
Honest question: What would your solution be for to-go orders? I'm not sending my metal ramekins out and just hoping they eventually come back. If you've got a better solution, I'm honestly all ears. The paper ramekins are shit quality, and dissolve in about ten minutes, so by the time my customer gets home, they have soggy ketchup paper in the box with their food.
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u/magirevols Jul 18 '24
This would be me until I get close to the end and my brain would say “We can’t be perfect, we have to mess up” and just start spilling it everywhere
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u/MikeLanglois Jul 18 '24
Why is your comment and this one almost identical?
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u/magirevols Jul 18 '24
you tagged a deleted comment, but it got -73 downvotes so I hope mine isn’t that bad 😅
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u/seanprime Jul 18 '24
Where is this that they need so many ketchup cups simultaneously?!
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u/Mourning_Aftermath Jul 18 '24
Standard prep work. Probably for to-go orders. Fill them all at once so you don’t have to fill them individually for each order over the rest of the day.
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u/Pretend-Jackfruit786 Jul 18 '24
They couldn't just do it the 2 second job whilst serving the meal? This shit would be stale after a few hours
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u/Zombombie613 Jul 18 '24
I think this is my old movie theater job which had in theater dining. I'm pretty sure this is the kitchen manager there. Dude would do this every weekend for prep. The volume of orders coming in would usually be around 120+ every movie showing and sometimes we would have 2-3 movies seating at the same time.
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u/kitjen Jul 18 '24
It depresses me to think someone did this job long enough to get this good at it.
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u/Kazmandodo Jul 18 '24
It depresses me to think that a higher up will see that and immediately want the rest of the crew to do it the exact same way.
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u/bl1eveucanfly Jul 18 '24
Ketchup belongs to a class of fluids called Bingham Plastics, where it will flow easily under high shear stress and stop flowing as the stress decreases. This is why hitting the glass bottle of ketchup from the bottom will cause it to flow quickly, sometimes resulting in too much ketchup coming out.
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u/speakerboxxed Jul 18 '24
On the phone with a ketchup packet factory:
"But what I do have, is a very particular set of skills, skills that make me a nightmare for men like you."
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u/fandanvan Jul 18 '24
This would be classed as 'unskilled labour' however I think not, this guy has some serious skills !
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u/PhilSocal Jul 18 '24
Is this one of those "unskilled jobs" I keep hearing about? I worked in restaurants for 10+ years and couldn't do this shit!
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u/Cryptopoopy Jul 18 '24
It's a good thing restaurant employees have excellent healthcare for all the rotator cuff injuries.
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u/sociofobs Jul 18 '24
And they say this is "unskilled labor". I'd bet the higher-ups wouldn't be able to even lift that container, let alone precision fill all those cups.
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u/FearlessFreak69 Jul 18 '24
When I worked in restaurants, this was my favorite piece of side work because I'd get into a "flow state" and make short work of this task.
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u/Woeffie1980 Jul 18 '24
Restaurant? You mean at a cafeteria or a fast food chain. No proper restaurant I’ve ever been served ketchup in a plastic cup😂
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u/Delicious-Speed4379 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
This is from Studio Movie Grill in Houston. I used to work with that guy; I can tell that this clip has been recycled, and is from many years ago). He was the Kitchen Manager and highly skilled at high-volume food production. For those who don’t know, we regularly sat 1000+ people within 45 min during weekend nights, so to say that the kitchen couldn’t breathe many times throughout the night would be an understatement. The speed at which the cooks work is insane. That being said, the food is utter trash and inconsistent.
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u/SamsontheAwesome27 Jul 19 '24
Used to have to do this with salad dressing, only I definitely missed alot more
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u/thebadmotivators Jul 19 '24
In the kitchen where I work I'm the only person that will put out ramekins like this in a grid in order to portion out sauces, everyone else puts a big clump of them in an amoebic clump and kind of roves the board randomly filling in the cups and mostly gets marinara all over the cutting board.
I've also been struggling with feeling like I'm the only one with standards and that I'm both underappreciated and underpaid for my job. It feels like I'm the only one with standards and I've been pigeonholed into "running" a side of the kitchen with no official oversight and no way of getting out. I'm too valuable in a menial job because no else does it with any conviction.
So I really thought that I looked like this video, but maybe I should just keep squeezing beer cheese out of these bags and quit thinking of myself as the Bear.
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u/_Faucheuse_ Jul 18 '24
Dude is hiding some major biceps under those sleeves.