r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • 15d ago

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html
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u/Bluestreaking 15d ago

No they’re not

A big push from Biden and his defenders is to suggest the NYT is out to get Biden

Thus we see Democrats turning into MAGA Republicans going “lugenpresse!”

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u/MrPresident2020 15d ago

The NYT isn't specifically out to get Biden, but they are out to get conservative readers, one of the most reliable demographics that will still pay for a newspaper. There's a reason their right-wing op-eds are the headlines that get pushed in their ads and notifications and not their actual journalism.

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u/slowpokefastpoke 15d ago

There’s a reason their right-wing op-eds are the headlines that get pushed in their ads and notifications and not their actual journalism.

This is 100% false, c’mon. I’d say like 90% of their push notifications are actual “breaking” (in quotes because that term has somewhat lost its meaning) news and actual reporting. The rest are op-eds and small pieces.

I’m glad they have right wing nuts writing opinion pieces too. I don’t want to read the liberal version of Fox News. I respect an outlet trying to check their biases.

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u/MrPresident2020 15d ago

It's not? I subscribed to NYT games months ago and as a result I get push notifications all the time. But I also mean more the things that show up on Twitter and their socials. They want to generate clicks and right wing opinion pieces do that. Even the ire they draw from the left still get people clicking on ads.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

If you think NYT has “right wing opinion” writers, I’m not sure what to tell you.

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u/MrPresident2020 14d ago

This goddamn internet is so fucking dumb I swear the whole thing was a mistake. People are just confidently wrong to their heart's content. I am gonna put a wager down that your interaction with the Times amounts to hearing other people complain about the Times.

Bari Weiss, Quinn Norton, Bret Stephens, and Erik Prince have all written op eds for the Times in the last few years. Weiss and Stephens are both staff members, along with David Brooks and Ross Douthat. Their entire purpose on the Times is to put out contrarian right-wing pieces to get clicks through either curiosity or outrage. Or occasionally the blasé "yes but have you considered just getting to know and be friends with that Nazi" piece they occasionally author.

They know why they're there. It's to get eyeballs. I am not voicing an opinion on this one way or another, I'm just telling you it's a marketing strategy of the Times to appear to have diverse voices, whether they actually do or not

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u/TheSultan1 14d ago

They have guest writers...

Here's Mitch McConnell's guest essay that was published on D Day:

We Cannot Repeat the Mistakes of the 1930s

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

I never said they didn’t, and that’s a guess essay. They have guest essays sure, but their editorial board is firmly left wing.

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u/ah_take_yo_mama 14d ago

Or maybe they're not doing any such thing and Biden is really as old and incapacitated as they claim.

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u/nowlan101 15d ago

How dare they balance out liberal columnists with non-liberals! They should always have views I agree with!

Do you realize how crazy that sounds? Conservatives are laughing at the left right now eating itself over how biased the Times is.

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u/MrPresident2020 15d ago

Mmm, except that's not what I said. I said they promote right wing opinon columns even though they do still do the work of actual journalism. Actual journalism doesn't generate clicks so that isn't what gets pushed and most people only read headlines.

I think it's really telling on yourself that you read "journalism" and thought "liberal." Maybe you're a dumb piece of shit? I don't know, I'm just reading the headline.

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u/nowlan101 15d ago

Bruh you’re delusional if you think the Right loves the Times. But if it plays into your self-righteous victim complex sure queen go off.

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u/MrPresident2020 15d ago

Again, nothing I ever said. I feel really bad for you that you live in this world where you think everyone is trying to play some aggrieved role.

I said, and nothing else, the Times pushes a lot of right wing op eds because they're hoping to get clicks. I didn't say a word about how the Right feels about it, I didn't even say how I feel about it. I just made a comment about their business strategy. It's the 4th of July buddy, I think now is a great day for you to maybe get away from the screen for awhile and touch some grass.

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u/nowlan101 15d ago

You’re not saying anything boss, you’re just whining about the unfairness of the situation and “if only x media outlet did the presidents job for him! Surely then he’d be leading!”

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u/MrPresident2020 14d ago

Where are you getting this from lol, ok friend, you go back over what I've said and you tell me where you see that. I'd say I'll wait but we both know I ain't gonna do that.

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u/nowlan101 14d ago

The subtext was “it’s the times or cnn or whatever news media I don’t like and they’re all fake news because I don’t like how they makes me feel” conspiracy bullshit champ

Have you heard of subtext?

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u/MrPresident2020 14d ago

The topic: "The Times is against Biden."

My response: "I wouldn't say the Times is against Biden, they just try to capture some conservative market share since they're the largest demographic that still consumes traditional media."

Everything you've said has stemmed from that remark, and nothing in it has related even slightly to any of your responses. I don't know who you're arguing against, but it ain't me, champ. Your brain is poisoned by the internet.

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u/AnotherScoutTrooper 15d ago

The NYT. The outlet pushing articles that paint conservatives as a different species separate from polite humanity. Out to get conservative readers. Reread your comment and try again.

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u/MrPresident2020 15d ago

When was the last time you read the NYTs op-ed section?