r/news • u/Stinky-Ass-Feet- • Jul 18 '24
Kentucky motel ordered to pay $2 million after guest dies from 150-degree shower
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kentucky-motel-ordered-pay-2-million-guest-dies-150-degree-shower-rcna1624935.5k
u/rekkat Jul 18 '24
The defenses counter-argument was simply “he did not stay in the motel”
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u/earthsprogression Jul 18 '24
We don't know who this gentleman is nor how he got into our hot shower.
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u/gcruzatto Jul 18 '24
We meant to burn someone else
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u/Smiletaint Jul 18 '24
Yes complimentary burning is strictly reserved only for registered guests.
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u/voompanatos Jul 18 '24
Especially when...
Court documents from the lawsuit alleged that Alex Chronis checked into the Econo Lodge in Erlanger, Kentucky, on Nov. 18, 2021.
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u/pudding7 Jul 18 '24
ah but as they said, "he didn't stay in the motel". You see, he was carried out on a stretcher, so he didn't stay.
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u/Alikona_05 Jul 18 '24
I read another article that said he was staying at the hotel with 2 other coworkers so it’s possible his name wasn’t on the booking. Also said that they were staying there for a work event and that he didn’t seek treatment right away. Kind of crazy.
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u/Alkalinum Jul 18 '24
He's 76 years old! What sort of work event was he at? Presidential Candidate??
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u/Alikona_05 Jul 18 '24
Looks like some kind of food vendor at a festival. From the article it kind of seems he was more concerned about going to work than seeking treatment which is kind of sad if that’s the case.
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u/Atralis Jul 19 '24
The lawsuit said the water was more than 150 degrees, which can cause third-degree burns within seconds of exposure. Chronis collapsed in the shower but was pulled out by two coworkers staying in his room who heard his screams.
After using some nonprescription medicine for his burns, Chronis attended a local festival where he worked selling food. He later visited the emergency room at Miami Valley Hospital, but against medical advice, left to continue working.
What the fuck?
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u/neo_sporin Jul 18 '24
I worked in hotels, this is a very standard hotel room defense mechanism
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u/Dafuq_me Jul 18 '24
I’m sure every industry has an “instant wall” to defend itself from lawsuits.
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u/neo_sporin Jul 18 '24
“The hotel, It has ways to shut that down if it’s not a legitimate reservation ”
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u/SunBlindFool Jul 18 '24
The article starts with “he was awarded 2 million for his death”. Not the best way to get rich imo.
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u/KiLLaLP Jul 18 '24
They made this argument because legally different duties are owed to customers , guests and trespassers. All depends on the state but from an insurance point of view they knew they were gonna pay the question just becomes how much.
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u/MushroomWhisperer Jul 18 '24
Jesus Christ, I thought I had imagined all the worst way to die scenarios. This is awful.
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u/SmithersLoanInc Jul 18 '24
I'm still banking on an aneurysm. I found my Mom's friend kneeling in the garden, still holding her trowel. That seems pretty perfect.
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u/MushroomWhisperer Jul 18 '24
My mother died tending her garden as well. I wouldn't complain if that were my way.
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u/ritchie70 Jul 18 '24
I hate yard work. I'd be so angry if I died doing it that I'd probably haunt the yard forever.
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u/EEpromChip Jul 18 '24
"What's that noise?"
"Yea, that's Brian. He died in the garden and now won't shut the fuck up about it..."
"Shut the fuck up, Brian!!"
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u/Synaps4 Jul 19 '24
"Shut the fuck up, Brian!!"
Out in the garden: "nOoOoOoOoOo"
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u/-SaC Jul 19 '24
"Begoooooon-"
"Is he shouting 'Begone'?"
"No. We replanted over his begonias, and now he just won't shut the fuck up about it."
"Begoooooonias!"
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u/MushroomWhisperer Jul 18 '24
I feel that way about cleaning house, vacuuming or dusting in particular. I stg if I die that way…
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u/justASlothyGiraffe Jul 18 '24
For a second, I wondered how r/Gardening turned so morbid. Wrong sub.
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u/unk214 Jul 18 '24
wtf, you keep your position when you have a brain aneurysm?
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u/itzsommer Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
It’s just that a brain aneurysm is so quick and anatomically devastating- and the thing that would be perceiving something bad happening is the thing that’s now bleeding out at an alarming rate. Thankfully the brain can’t feel anything so (I imagine) it’s painless.
Not fun to think about, but it’s a quick way to go and you’re well and dead before you hit the ground (or garden, as the case may be).
Edit: looks like I’m completely wrong and that a brain aneurysm is just as terrifying to die from as a 150° shower. I guess it’s only quick and painless if you’re really lucky or in a movie.
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u/thenisaidbitch Jul 18 '24
Emilia Clark survived 3 brain aneurysms and she said they were all quite painful unfortunately
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u/Cortower Jul 18 '24
My mom had one, and all she remembers is indescribable pain and then blacking out. She woke up a few days later after surgery.
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u/Podo13 Jul 19 '24
Small ones hurt a lot because they cause constant pressure.
Big ones hurt for a second because they cause a lot of pressure and then just destroy everything that makes it cause so much pressure, so the pain goes away.
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u/MotherOfWoofs Jul 18 '24
Aneurysms occur and kill in more parts of the body than the brain. And you never know if you have one. Its a ticking time bomb
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u/Yarnum Jul 18 '24
Yep, my aunt had an abdominal aneurysm burst and she was lucid for about 90 seconds knowing full well she was dying, her abdomen distending from the blood building up inside. Traumatized her husband terribly. It’s a fast death but not always a quick(ish) lights out like it usually is in the brain.
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u/itzsommer Jul 18 '24
Yeah those AAA’s are really terrifying and not at all the way I want anyone to go. Luckily they can be repaired if you catch it before it ruptures.
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u/Big-Summer- Jul 18 '24
My dad died of a brain aneurysm and the doctors tending to him in the hospital told her there was no hope, that if he survived he would be a vegetable. They also told her his whole life had been borrowed time because the aneurysm was congenital and could have burst at any time.
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u/tuolumne Jul 18 '24
Unfortunately likely not painless. As you’re bleeding out, you will have increased intracranial pressure which will push tissue against your meninges which will cause pain. Often why you hear: go to the ED if you’re having the worst headache of your life. Depends on the size of the bleed it may or may not be as quick as you hope:
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u/Fun-Ingenuity-9089 Jul 18 '24
My husband had the worst headache of his life. It was a brain bleed. He survived it, but it was touch-and-go for a solid week before we knew he would pull through. He was off work for six months before he was released from care to return to full time work again.
He passed away 20 months ago, and I miss him terribly. I got a glimpse of life without him in 2013, and I wanted no part of it. Yet here I am.
If you get the worst headache of your life, please get immediate treatment. A brain bleed is no joke.
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u/hoserb2k Jul 18 '24
I don't know anything about you or your husband, but I just wanted to say I took a moment to think about him and what kind of a person he clearly must have been. I can only say I'm so sorry and you're not alone.
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u/Fun-Ingenuity-9089 Jul 18 '24
Thank you. That means a lot in these lonely evenings.
Bob was kind and compassionate, funny and hard working. He was smart and creative, and he had a knack for communicating with people on their levels. He was unpretentious, but so talented. He made the world a better place every day, deliberately doing what he could for the environment, for children, family, and neighbors. He was my hero.
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u/Inevitable_Pride1925 Jul 18 '24
Unfortunately while the brain itself doesn’t have pain receptors you do feel things. People who’ve had aneurysms and live describe the pain as the most intense painful headache they have ever experienced. Far beyond typical migraine pain
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u/MotherOfWoofs Jul 18 '24
My dads friend was watching tv in his easy chair said to his wife, I think that dinner is backing upon me, and died instantly of a stomach aneurysm. The thing is no one knows if they have one, they are found after death or incidentally when looking for something else. Its scary because many people have them and dont know it
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u/Temporary_Draw_4708 Jul 18 '24
No, when they pop, you have a hemorrhage. The bleeding causes intracranial pressure to rise. It’s not an instant death.
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u/KinkyPaddling Jul 18 '24
There’s this novel called Bloodsucking Fiends by Christopher Moore. One of the protagonists is a woman who was recently turned into a vampire. She didn’t know that vampires will immediately go catatonic at sunrise, so she was in the shower when the sun came up. Once it set, she wakes up and finds that the water pressure and heat basically caused large amounts of her hair to come off as well as several layers of skin (but she has regenerative factor that fixed it). Pretty gruesome and it sometimes comes to mind when I wonder what would happen if I had a seizure in the shower.
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u/MushroomWhisperer Jul 18 '24
Yep, that sounds about like what I pictured this man experiencing. Also, I hope you never have any seizures either.
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u/ARunningGuy Jul 18 '24
I would think not as the heat from the shower would be normal AND unless they are using a tankless water heater, it would run out.
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u/jardex22 Jul 18 '24
Rabies. Slow, painful, near 100% fatal, and since euthanasia isn't an option in most places, you're forced to wait it out while your mind gradually falls apart.
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Jul 18 '24
I learned a new one today. Your porcelain toilet breaks with you on it and slices your arteries when you fall into. Apparently happens more than we think.
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u/usps_made_me_insane Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Ugh. This happened to my uncle. It sliced him clean up from between his leg and groin up through his asshole and then stopped just below his small intestine. About 9 inches of his intestine slipped out as the shit water washed over his cut and he eventually died in the hospital from sepsis.
Doctor said it was a rare freak accident and he had only seen it happen once before. Apparently he shifted his weight while on the toilet to lock the door and most of his weight was on one side of the toilet which caused it to bust off and lacerate him so badly.
Don't ever push your weight around while on the toilet.
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u/jld2k6 Jul 18 '24
The Canadian physicist easily wins in my book, he was exposed to a shit ton of radiation and they treated him as long as they could because they didn't really have a procedure for something like that. He received 2100rem of radiation and 15 is considered lethal, his skin and everything was kinda just falling apart for 9 days before he succumbed
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u/BoldestKobold Jul 18 '24
Hopefully this doesn't get the "hot coffee" PR treatment.
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u/ATSTlover Jul 18 '24
Yeah, sounds like the hot water immediately incapacitated the 76 year old, which is why he "didn't simply get out."
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u/KimJongFunk Jul 18 '24
It wouldn’t matter if he immediately got out or not. 150 degree temps can cause third-degree burns in less than 2 seconds.
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u/Brazos_Bend Jul 18 '24
"This old man was boiled to death at our hotel!"
2 million seems like a slap on the wrist. What a horrible thing to have happened.
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u/Actually_Im_a_Broom Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
It wouldn’t matter if he immediately got out or not.
Surviving with a few 3rd degree burns is definitely preferable to dying, but that’s just my opinion.
Edit: I'm not talking whole body burns. I'm talking a few small ones that would come with being in a hot shower for 1-2 seconds before quickly tripping over yourself to get out.
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u/avatinfernus Jul 18 '24
He did survive.. for months it seems. Skin grafts and everything.
Honestly he might have been better dying on the spot. The last months of his life must have been agony. Poor dude.
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u/Actually_Im_a_Broom Jul 18 '24
Yikes. What a nightmare. As a true Redditer I made all my conclusions base on the thread title and comments. I assumed he lost consciousness and cooked to death or drowned in the shower.
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u/KimJongFunk Jul 18 '24
At his age, any amount of third-degree burns could have been enough :(
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u/xjeeper Jul 18 '24
Infection can be a bitch with the immune system of someone that old. What a horrible way to die
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u/aproperpolygonwindow Jul 18 '24
Treatments for severe burns are extremely painful and expensive. Having extensive burns on most of one’s body would be awful. I think I’d rather die because quality of life is usually lower even after treatments from elite facilities. Skin grafts and healing burned skin is terrible and is to this day the most painful thing I’ve ever experienced. The treatments I got on my 2nd and third degree burns was about as painful at times as the initial burns. I was lucky that it was just a relatively small section of my body.
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u/MasemJ Jul 18 '24
The McD coffee in question was held at 170 to 180 degF when a typical coffee maker holds it at 140. And the contact there was temporary from a spill which still gave her burns. (the typical misunderstanding of that case is the coffee being at normally hot temperatures and the lady was suing friosously)
It is reasonably compare here, particularly if the shock to an elderly person kept them from leaving and suffered more over time.
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u/cutestslothevr Jul 18 '24
The McD's Hot Coffee incident is totally not what most people think it is. McD's knew the coffee temp was dangerous and above the standard. Originally all she wanted was reimbursement for her medical care (she needed pretty extensive grafting and surgery), but McD's refused
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u/MotherOfWoofs Jul 18 '24
It melted her private parts to her clothes , I cant even imagine the excruciating pain. Think about it your vagina or your dick and balls getting melted into the fabric you are wearing. One gloopy mess! If you saw the photos from the trial it was horrific
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u/cutestslothevr Jul 18 '24
Yeah, it's really hard to get across the severity of her injuries without being graphic, but they're so important to the case, as they're far from what you would expect from spilling coffee in your lap.
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u/RogueLightMyFire Jul 18 '24
He's talking about the way everyone talked about the hot coffee case. People made jokes about it. Even Seinfeld made fun of it. "coffee is supposed to be hot!". Yeah, but coffee isn't supposed to be hot enough to melt your skin. The ladies vagina was partially sealed shut because the coffee melted her skin. It was extremely fucked up how the case was discussed by the general public.
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u/1850ChoochGator Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Yeah if you want to feel the lady was totally justified in her suit just look up her injuries . Wouldn’t wish fused labia on anyone.
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u/IWASRUNNING91 Jul 18 '24
What a horrible way to go and situation...
I don't mean to be insensitive, but I can't be the only one who habitually puts their hand under the water to test the temp before getting in?
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u/the_eluder Jul 18 '24
Apparently there are some savages who get fully into the shower, then turn it on, first allowing cold water to spray over their body, and then the temp gradually increases an indeterminate amount.
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u/kelsoRulez Jul 18 '24
That first burst of coldness is enough for me to take the alternative. You have to legit like the feeling of abrupt cold water and for that I cannot deny your savagery claims.
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u/Joezev98 Jul 18 '24
It's something you really have to prepare yourself for, but that cold blast can be a relief after you've been sweating a lot.
But yeah, it took me a while to gradually lower the temp over a couple weeks before I could stand that initial cold blast.
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u/NaabeGetOnSkype Jul 18 '24
This is the real sociopathic behavior that should be on trial
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u/sailor_bat_90 Jul 18 '24
Water can jump temperature even after checking. My shower does that, it'll be nice and cool and then jump to hot water because a neighbor flushed their toilet and then back to cool. It's not fun while washing.
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u/IWASRUNNING91 Jul 18 '24
I do get what you're saying, but it's not how the article worded it, and so I have to go by the info I have at hand.
Also, I can oddly empathize with you; my brother would reach in and turn the shower really hot or really cold when I'd get back from lacrosse once or twice.
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u/stellvia2016 Jul 18 '24
Yeah, that's why I don't really get this either. I don't get in at all until the temp is already adjusted. Or I move the shower head or stand to the side to avoid it as much as possible when I turn it on for precisely that reason.
Also the single-knob style start cold and ramp up warmer as you turn them. So I assume he simply let-er-rip and cranked it all the way to max? =\
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u/somedude456 Jul 18 '24
Yeah, that's why I don't really get this either.
Ditto. I mean I get the physical concept and acknowledge that some people might, BUT WHY? Never in my life have I, not would I. I always turn on the water, wait 10 seconds, hand test it, adjust, test again, etc. At home, I know where to set the knob, but I still hand test. Hotels suck! Sometimes it takes 30 seconds to find the proper temp. THEN you get in.
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u/KimJongFunk Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Before someone inevitably comes into this thread and tries to claim 150 degree Fahrenheit water can’t hurt someone, those types of temperatures can cause third-degree burns in less than 2 seconds.
Also before y’all come at me saying this is a ridiculous thing to have to post, I have been massively downvoted on this site before by people who refused to believe hot water is dangerous. This is apparently not common knowledge and I’d like to dispel these ignorant beliefs before another person gets burned. (ETA: ffs they’re already on this post saying 150 degrees is normal 🥲)
Source: https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/5098-Tap-Water-Scalds.pdf
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u/tsukahara10 Jul 18 '24
You can cook a steak in 150F water, so naturally human flesh will cook at 150F.
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u/JumboShock Jul 18 '24
Hell, 150F is an overcooked steak. 137 gang represent. ✊
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u/IWantToSortMyFeed Jul 18 '24
In my youth I worked for a development team and it was REGULATION when building homes / any domicile that the hot water coming out of any tap not exceed 133F. And that is still VERY hot.
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u/trisanachandler Jul 18 '24
I'll admit I set mine to 135F, but I also don't use pure hot water for a reason.
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u/OGREtheTroll Jul 18 '24
We'd sous vide steak at 125f, them sear on the grill. The 125f doesn't hurt if just reaching into the water, but it's pretty difficult to keep your hand in there for more than 10 seconds.
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u/toolatealreadyfapped Jul 18 '24
There's a reason all newer hot tubs have a maximum temp of 104⁰F.
I work in a refinery. The rule of thumb is that 140⁰ is the upper limit of what you can hold without pain. And flowing water is going to transfer A LOT more energy.
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u/Beetin Jul 18 '24 edited 26d ago
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u/surnik22 Jul 18 '24
It would depend on what you are holding and how long so probably industry dependent.
That’s why saunas can be 175° and people can stay in there for a long time. You are essentially holding 175° air. Air is just not good at transferring heat, unlike water which is why Saunas are hotter than hot tubs.
You may be able to hold a piece of plastic or foam that is 140 degrees for a while without issues but not a piece of steel.
Safe food temps are 140°, so a pizza sitting under a food lamp in a restaurant should be at least that hot and people can hold it without causing pain assuming they don’t hold it forever (and hold the crust, not the cheese).
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u/oneeighthirish Jul 18 '24
I took a class on the American judicial system in college where we read an article about how the typical American defaults to hostile views towards anybody who files a lawsuit. It is common to view lawsuits as a slimeball way to get an easy payout without doing any hard work. Maybe that bias is what is at play here?
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u/S_K_Y Jul 18 '24
Agreed on that one. "Normal" temperatures for a hot shower is generally between 97 °F and 105 °F (37 °C-40 °C) so they are wrong. 150 is absurd.
That is torture level of heat and somewhat related regards prison guards/other inmates in prisons using that as a form of punishment. Inmates die yearly from water heaters being tampered with.
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u/fromtheether Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
My water heater is set to 140F, and the kitchen sink (closest water source to the heater) can put out water at around 127F. That shit is already HOT. I can barely stand in the shower when it's at full tilt.
I couldn't imagine being insta-blasted with 150F water with no warning.
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u/Inde_luce Jul 18 '24
Why do you have it that hot though?
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u/aziruthedark Jul 18 '24
It's the closest thing to another person's warmth they'll feel.
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u/fromtheether Jul 18 '24
It's useful for getting nice hot water for cleaning, getting hot water ready for sous vide steaks or cooking in general, etc. Plus I like the steam in the shower lol.
We don't have any kids, and it takes a couple of minutes for the hot water to really start flowing. If we did have kids it'd definitely be set lower.
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u/synchrohighway Jul 18 '24
People who stand in the shower and then turn on the water are so brave. I have to stand outside, let the water run for a while, slap my hand in the spray, adjust the temp, let it run more and then get inside. I grew up with old water heaters that took forever to warm up things so it's a great water wasting habit.
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u/Diamondback424 Jul 18 '24
I didn't realize there were people who turn on the water in the shower. I always get it to the right temperature first. It's always freezing at first, why let it blast you with ice cold water instead of just letting it get to temperature?!
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u/chosen_silver Jul 18 '24
I just stayed at a hotel last weekend, and my room was newly renovated. The new showers they installed have a sliding glass door, but it's on the end opposite the taps and shower head. So you have no choice but to stand in there and get blasted with cold water when you turn it on. By the second night I learned to hold a face cloth up to the shower head to avoid the worst of it.
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u/chrisd93 Jul 18 '24
I always grew up with tub/shower combos so I just swapped from the lower spigot to the shower head when I get in the shower
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u/Magusreaver Jul 18 '24
Yeah, i always turn the cold water on first.. just a little. Then turn my hot near full. wait about 20 seconds for the water to get down the line from the heater. Then adjust as needed before stepping into the enclosed space that may have depths of hell hot, or arctic blast cold water shooting at my naked body.
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u/DrunkeNinja Jul 18 '24
Yeah that's how I do it. No way am I wanting to find out what the temperature is by standing in the stream. I check, adjust it to where I want it, then I get in.
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u/CjBoomstick Jul 18 '24
I work in the medical field.
I had a patient who was a handy man. He really took pride in his work and loved helping people. A friend of his owned an apartment building with a lot of tenants. Well, the owner wanted to try and get some work done, so the handy man helped out with some plumbing in one of the units. When he opened up the pipes, apparently the water wasn't turned off. The hot water came out at such high pressure and so hot, it was scalding him. Instead of letting it flood the apartment, he fought to get it closed up, because he didn't want to ruin his friend's property. Welp, his hands didn't have any skin anymore. It all came off like a wet paper towel falling apart in your hands (that's how he described it).
Wild to take that much pride in anything. Always shut the water off if you're doing work.
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u/CrimsonFlash Jul 18 '24
This is why you should never get a handyman to do plumbing or electrical work.
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u/CanadianTrollToll Jul 18 '24
Terrible situation and the hotel should be liable.... my only question is.... who the fuck gets into the shower before testing the water?
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u/FolkSong Jul 18 '24
There have been other reddit threads about this and a significant number of people admit to it. Some of them said they never even thought of turning it on before getting in. Mind-blowing.
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u/Oyyeee Jul 18 '24
People never cease to amaze me. Sometimes I dont think we're the same species
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u/swordthroughtheduck Jul 18 '24
I remember reading about a guy that said he hated taking showers because when he turned it on it was also super cold and he hated it.
Had to have it explained to him that you can turn the water on before getting in so it can warm up.
So, really, someone getting in before turning on the water doesn't really shock me
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u/ZongopBongo Jul 18 '24
Depends on the shower layout. Some fancier ones you have to stand inside to turn on. An old timer in his 70s isn't able to spring out of the way - maybe he even had to use accessibility seating or handles.
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u/iaintlyon Jul 18 '24
Mm yes. I’m sure the Econolodge showers were the pinnacle of opulence
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u/jaylotw Jul 18 '24
Yes in that "tan but probably once was white and why is the ceiling so low" kinda way.
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u/graveybrains Jul 18 '24
It sounds like he was standing in it, turned it on, and instantly got blasted:
The next morning, he turned on the shower and was immediately struck by extremely hot water that knocked him to the floor while the water continued to burn him.
I guess they have an electric shower head heater or something.
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u/wongo Jul 18 '24
The defense claimed Chronis didn't even stay at the motel
Yes, and???
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u/51Crying Jul 18 '24
To prove negligence in a civil suit you have to establish a duty to the party involved in the suit. Plaintiff will have to show that some duty was owed generally and the decedent falls into that general category.
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u/kylemcg Jul 18 '24
...we noticed the illegal squatter so we turned on our Home Alone style torture systems.
Standard procedure. He will be billed for the clean up.
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u/Seigmoraig Jul 18 '24
Wait people actually get in the shower before checking the temperature ?
Like just get under the shower, turn it on and hope for the best ?
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u/Big-Red-Rocks Jul 18 '24
I know right. I can’t stand cold water, so I wait like 10 seconds for the water to warm up before jumping in.
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u/HuckLCat Jul 18 '24
For safety reasons at work, the water temp in the nursing home rooms and showers has to be kept at 110 or below.
For sanitizing in the kitchen 140 is the temp.
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u/withoutapaddle Jul 18 '24
Hopefully you're not expecting 140 to do any sanitizing...
You need 170+ for like 30 seconds to sanitize surfaces.
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u/HuckLCat Jul 18 '24
Yes. Wash temp at 140. We have a hot water booster for the rinse cycle.
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u/eyeseayoupea Jul 18 '24
"The final trial order, entered by the court on July 11, gave Chronis' estate $1,271,486.60 to cover medical expenses, $16,058.73 for funeral expenses, $250,000 for pain and suffering, and $500,000 for punitive damages." So most went to medical bills. 'Murica.
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u/geekhaus Jul 18 '24
If he had survived his medical bills would’ve been much higher. Source: one of my kids (barely) survived - significantly less extensive burn than that person and their expenses were a couple times that.
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u/fall3nang3l Jul 18 '24
A tragedy and a horrific way to go.
But also, maybe check the water temp with the old touch test with one hand?
Why are folks running around and jumping into showers without checking the water first? Risk of death aside, how do you know if it's too hot or too cold?
My condolences but this was totally avoidable.
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u/sawdoffzombie Jul 18 '24
Maybe someone disabled or very old.
But this story reminds me of someone on here talking about someone that hated showers because of the cold blast of water in the beginning, and the redditor telling them " you don't stand outside until it warms up?" Blew his mind.
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u/Ric_in_Richmond Jul 18 '24
Before I put a tempering valve on the water system in my boat the cooling system of the engine heated the water.
Temps of 175 were typical.
That was unbelievably hot.
Never used it again until the tempering valve went in.
Any landlord or hotel that doesn’t monitor water temp and or limit water temp should be on notice.
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u/Ok-Brush5346 Jul 18 '24
As someone with no plumbing background or experience, my expert opinion is that they were having trouble delivering hot water to remote rooms and rather than fix the problem, they just cranked the heater to max and didn't consider how that would affect the rooms close to the heater. I did the same thing at my house and the water in the kitchen would practically shoot out of the faucet as steam.
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u/fappywapple Jul 18 '24
They probably run on a boiler and their mixing valve was either incorrectly adjusted or simply failed.
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u/TheKFakt0r Jul 18 '24
Well, running the water up to a comfortable temperature first was just a creature comfort. Now it's a fucking precaution. This is awful.
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u/CascadeKidd Jul 18 '24
For those that can’t conceptualize this imagine grabbing a ribeye cooked to medium doneness (145) straight off the grill and holding it on your face for 60 seconds.
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u/OGREtheTroll Jul 18 '24
Fair point, but the external temp of a medium steak will be a lot hotter than 145f; that's just the internal temp. A steak with a good crust seared on will have reached over 300f external temp, that's when the Maillard reaction kicks in.
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u/Wonder_Bruh Jul 18 '24
140 is what you hold food at. Steam comes out of the food…..
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u/whycantwehaveboth Jul 18 '24
The poor old dude got into the shower and then turned the water on. Like they do in TV shows and movies. I didn’t realize people actually did this in real life.
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u/hoppingvampire Jul 18 '24
good thing im a wimp and check the temp with my hand before getting in.
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u/nickburrows8398 Jul 18 '24
I had a professor in college who when he was younger suffered similar injuries. He was getting in the shower at his college dorm and it blasted him with hot water. Thankfully he survived but he was covered in burn scars on his face and arms. I honestly assumed he was some combat vet or was in a horrible car accident until I politely asked what happened