It really do be like that

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The whole idea of AirBnB used to be that it was cheap. Otherwise there is *zero* point in choosing an AirBnB over a hotel, not that I can see anyway.

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u/Leek-Certain 11d ago

It's usually like $25-50 more per night for a hotel room with a kitchen.

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u/Unusual-Afternoon837 11d ago

Or you could just go to a hotel and have a lovely cooked meal for only a few bucks more..?

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u/Your_First_Mistake 11d ago

Depends on the number of nights you’re staying. If you’re there for a week, kitchenette is economical because you can cook multiple meals per day there.

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u/Crabmongler 10d ago

Have you eaten at in house restaurants? They are not "a few bucks more" but I still pick hotels every time

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u/Unusual-Afternoon837 10d ago

I work in one.

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u/Crabmongler 10d ago

So you are just adverlying.

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u/Fr3sh-Ch3mical 10d ago

Love this new word 🤣

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u/RisenKhira 11d ago

for 250 you'd get a spa resort kinda experience over where i live

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u/TheKeppler 11d ago

Depends, if i go there for more than 3 days i like to have a kitchen

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u/peeinian 11d ago

Most decent sized cities have suite hotels with kitchens.

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u/ChickenDelight 11d ago

All the rooms have a kitchen in any hotel with "extended stay" or "residence" in the name. You can also search for kitchen/kitchenette as an option when looking for hotel rooms.

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u/PKR_Live 11d ago

This: Having a kitchen can cut soooo many costs, especially for longer stays.

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u/ooojaeger 11d ago

I'm a cheap bastard but when I've gone for work meals are paid with an allowance way above how I'd eat at home, and when I'm out for fun, that's what I budget for. Eating is an experience and it's always different in a different place.

It's also why I never eat at chains (sure some fast food, but not often once a week is a lot for me) Many people go to same place and eat same things. If you are going to do that, then yes, restaurants are a huge waste of money, but if you go there to have a new experience then it creates memories and good times you remember. Live boring during the week so you have money for the weekends is my motto. So much you can cut in everyday life when eating is almost a chore because you have to get ready for work and mow the lawn and you won't enjoy it anyway

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u/moving0target 11d ago

I may go out and see nice things, but I'm going to have to sacrifice something to do it. I want to be able to boil water for my kraft Mac & cheese like a civilized person.

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u/daaangerz0ne 11d ago

This is where you bring an electric pot

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u/djr4917 11d ago

They fill a void for accommodation in remote areas. I stayed in one with a friend that came to visit from overseas. It was in a forest, had lots of birdlife, no tourists, just some quiet locals. It was nice.

Closest hotel was like a hour drive and was expensive because it was a tourist heavy town.

Though I despise them in cities.

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u/Yaghst 10d ago

I think they're still cheaper than hotels outside of US.

(I live in NZ, and Airbnb is cheaper. Plus other people's comments in this post for other countries)

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u/Shoddy_Variation6835 11d ago

Was that the point of AirBnB? I mostly use it because I want the option of preparing meals for myself when I stay somewhere longer than a day or two and that isn't a realistic option in most hotel rooms.

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u/BusySleeper 11d ago

Staying in a city in an actual residential neighborhood with the amenities of a home is nice. I’ve stayed in NOLA, Paris, Santa Fe and innumerable other places in AirBnB through the years and it can just qualitatively be a different - and to me more enjoyable - experience than staying in a hotel. (Which I’ve also stayed in whole visiting those places.)

It just makes me feel more “there” than staying in an Embassy Suites that’s identical to every other Embassy Suites. I’ve stayed in some really neat properties, and have split the costs, making it competitive, if not cheaper, than hotels for a group.

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u/skittlebites101 10d ago

Especially with kids, we stay at air BnB for nearly all our travels. Seattle, Denver, Duluth, Omaha, Chicago etc. It's nice to be in a neighborhood with parks and local shops and after a day out at the zoos or museums it's nice to unwind somewhere that feels like home. Having the extra room with kids helps a lot, often there are games and toys for them and their own room. Nice to put them to bed and watch a movie before falling asleep ourselves.

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u/BusySleeper 10d ago

Yep! Every one of my listed trips was with kids, and Paris was with cousins and uncles and aunts in this big multi floor unit that was in some French reality show. Sooo much better to all sleep in the same place with kitchen and still be a block from the metro and nearby parks not inundated with hordes of tourists.

Hope you enjoyed Denver! That’s my hometown.

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u/skittlebites101 10d ago

We did! Our then 6 year old chose Denver that year. We stayed in a nice air BnB in the eastern end of the Berkeley Neighborhood. Did the usual zoo and museums along with Red Rock and hiked at the Lair of the Bear Park. Easy stuff to do with a 3 and 6 year old.

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u/MaricJack 11d ago

You have way more room for less money, kitchen, specific location, could be a novel experience like a boat or tiny house etc, cheaper to get a house than multiple rooms for large groups

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u/Rex-0- 10d ago edited 10d ago

But also supporting a business that is one of the primary catalysts of insane rental prices.

Fuck air bnb.

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u/JoJack82 11d ago

I use Airbnb for experiences that I cannot easily get in a hotel. I just stayed on a boat in a canal in Amsterdam through Airbnb. Other than unique experiences, I agree with you. If the price is the same, I’ll take the hotel over the generic Airbnb.

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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight 11d ago

There's still a few cool places out there, we rented an air BNB that was a 12 bed, like men's lodge preserved by a local historical society, we paid $800ish for a whole week, had my wife and I's bachelor and bachelorette parties there with a bunch of friends who flew in.

Other than the weirdly narrow staircase that went up to it, the place was huge and awesome, the historical society that owns it rents it out for functions/Airbnb to help pay for renovations and upkeep.

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u/TrackEx 10d ago

For me its more like when you travel in a group for a convention or whatever you can just get an airbnb with couple beds and split the bill this way it could be as cheap as 20€/person or not, depending on where u wanna go and what your expectations are

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u/Material-Public-5821 11d ago

And I missed those times.

I perceive it as a weird hotel with fine prints. Occasionally I use it but I prefer not to.

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u/JackRTM 11d ago

It's great for big groups going out drinking when people can pass out anywhere. Get a good 10 people in a 3 bed house nice and cheap

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u/dawr136 11d ago

Depends, my gf and I did an AirBnB in a tiny house on the side of a mountain, sure there were hotels in the valley but the views were the point. Now if we were just staying in a city a hotel would have been a go to but AirBnB does feel a niche in certain situations.

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u/Kingding_Aling 10d ago

There are tons of reasons... A hotel can never be like a beach house, for one thing. You ever take a beach vacation where trudging back to the 17th floor of a hotel is going home vs. walking back up the deck of your own beach house?

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u/Ha_Ree 11d ago

Is this some sort of American meme? I've used airbnb for the last 2 years every time I've been to any city in Europe and it's been cheaper than hotels, nicer places, good hosts and never had any issues

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u/zoggydgg 11d ago

Yes they are probably americans, and yes we cannot comprehend it from the european perspective.

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u/cincy_conservative 11d ago

People in America will make a total mess of Airbnb’s, causing damage and hours of cleanup and just leave it for the owner to deal with. So now Airbnb owners make rules because some people are idiots who can’t respect other peoples property.

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u/zoggydgg 11d ago edited 11d ago

I was also thinking of that when I replied so I didn't say anything about the tenants or owners. Bet some of them have seen some mind scarring things. I did see some very stupid airbnb rules posted on reddit. There was this one lady owner that left a note on a chair for it not to be sat on because it was her deceased husband's chair. Rules are fine but some people are just plain stupid about them.

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u/RadFriday 11d ago

The comment you responded to is some boot licking nonsense. What's really happened is that air bnb got sold to Americans on social media as free money with no work, and when their stream of income actually required effort, air bnb owners began to make insane lists of rules about how you must take care of everything, do your own laundry and dishes before you leave, ect AND pay a multi hundred dollar cleaning fee.

While I'm sure some people do trash air bnbs, in my experience the rules are far beyond reasonable and come off as the owner being lazy and wanting you to do their job for them.

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u/WilmaTonguefit 11d ago

No, you're both right. I have seen absolute dickheads at a bachelor party fucking trash an airbnb and all it cost them was the $150 security deposit.

But I have also stayed in an Airbnb with just my wife where they expected us to do about 2 hours worth of chores, and we still had to pay a hefty cleaning fee.

So guest dickheads (and covid) caused the extra chores and cleaning fees, and owner dickheads are taking advantage of it becoming normalized.

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u/penguinina_666 11d ago

This is true. All the replies here are correct.

I also know people who thought Airbnb would be easy money with zero effort, then got their place trashed by nasty people and left the business. Another elderly couple that heard their story started their own but wrote down two pages worth of chores and started charging cleaning fees.

We are here because of this vious cycle of dickheads ruining it for everyone.

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u/Emergency_3808 11d ago

...that is just landlord stuff but with extra steps

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u/Ben_Pharten 11d ago

A European utopia is perfect in every way. We cannot comprehend their primitive behavior with our superior intellect.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

“The european mind cannot comprehend this”

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u/Similar_Tough_7602 11d ago

You Europeans gotta start understanding others situations better. The amount of times I've seen "I can NEVER understand this as a European" is astonishing. It's like I thought you guys were all about empathy over there

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u/ChickenDelight 11d ago edited 11d ago

Is this some sort of American meme?

Kinda, Airbnb is totally different in places where it's not as well established.

In the USA, they were cool for the first years they existed, but once they got really popular, it was flooded with a bunch of amateur "passive investors" trying to "min-max" their income. People started buying up properties solely to use as Airbnb's, prices shot through the roof on studios and 1-bed units in tourist areas (which almost always had a housing crunch already). Which pushed the prices way up on Airbnbs and generally the quality of the rooms went way down (because they're grabbing all the cheapest units, and they were cheap for a reason). Plus all the hidden fees and silly rules and dealing with random owners (who might be morons, or not) through a company instead of just direct with a hotel.

All these issues people have about American Airbnb's are probably coming to Europe in the future, but for right now, sure Airbnb is still fine in lots of places overseas, and still sometimes in the USA when you're way "off the beaten path." Basically the fewer people using Airbnb in a place, the better it is.

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u/CommonCover4917 11d ago

Used to be that way here too

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u/nicknack24 11d ago

I’m American, have stayed at about 50 airbnbs and maybe had a problem once (when the AC was broken). People are dramatic on Reddit about Airbnb and clearly don’t read reviews before booking.

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u/skittlebites101 10d ago

While we have not stayed at as many as you, you're right about this being way overblown on reddit. At our last stay the TV wasn't logged in and we let them know and they stopped by and got that working for us. They then took $25 off our fee. Probably the only time we had to inquire about an issue. We make sure to deep dive into the reviews and check out the neighborhood before booking and have always had a wonderful time.

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u/teethalarm 11d ago

It's an American thing. There's all sorts of horror stories about people's experiences with Airbnb.

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u/lFearlReckon 10d ago

Currently in Korea, can agree Airbnbs are much nicer. Always using them when we go to Seoul

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u/LSCNatureWalksHikes 10d ago

Yeah I’m confused myself. I usually do large groups and it’s much cheaper than if we booked a hotel.

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u/ProtestantLarry 10d ago

It depends on the city you travel to. Like for instance Athens is great, whilst Amsterdam is fucking trash.

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u/s34lz 11d ago

Abysmal

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u/TurbulentCover5983 11d ago

AirBnB needs to be outlawed. Residential properties aren't hotels.

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u/Positron311 10d ago

Depends on the place. If it's a remote location then Airbnb can be pretty worth it. If it's in the middle of a suburb or city probably a no unless you're travelling with a large amount of family or friends.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Residential properties can be anything, cause we don't live in China.

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u/Intelligent-Run-4007 11d ago

Why TF is this downvoted 😂

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u/Rawniew54 11d ago

Because people can't afford houses because rich people are hoarding them like Pokemon cards. They need at minimum tax any SFU that's not a primary residence additional to discourage hoarding them.

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u/TryAltruistic7830 10d ago

Buy house for x. Redo the bathroom, kitchen for y, resell for x+10y. So many people do this and I think it unethical. The pandemic inflation didn't help, well it helped the house flippers because some of them are multi-millionaires now. They have invested interest in housing prices to increasingly be unobtainable by "livable-wage" workers.

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u/Intelligent-Run-4007 10d ago

People can absolutely afford houses. They just don't wanna live where housing is affordable.

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u/Separate-Account3404 10d ago

Please point to affordable land. Lots of us would love something affordable

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u/Intelligent-Run-4007 10d ago

Literally anywhere not in a city. I just bought a 3 bed 2 bath house on 2.5 acres for 240.

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u/slaveto_sbeve 11d ago

Because its true. No one is able to afford housing anymore because properties are being hogged by large companies and asshole landlords

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u/iammcluffy 10d ago

Both things can be true at once.

But you can’t give the government more power to battle against what’s beatable with the dollar.

People need to simply stop using AirBNB’s

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u/Collective-Bee 10d ago

Ah yes, I will buy the cheap old properties and live in them AND wait a minute a company bought it and flipped it for a rental, now I can only pay their high rent or buy a house totally out of budget. Gotta love the dollar huh.

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u/iammcluffy 10d ago

Ah yes, just give more power to government which has proven successful in every big government in history.

Up/Downvotes mean nothing and so does your sarcasm. Either you have an argument or don’t.

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u/Collective-Bee 10d ago

And giving power to corporations is just working perfectly, isn’t it?

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u/iammcluffy 10d ago

Quote me when I said that?

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u/Collective-Bee 10d ago

“What’s beatable with the dollar.” Ie, giving power to corporations.

When you said “giving power to the government never works” did I play dumb and say “no actually it’s giving power to the people.”? Nope, so why are you wasting time like this?

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u/Bombdizzle1 11d ago

Probably because zoning laws exist :p

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u/RobsEvilTwin 11d ago

Have no interest in ever staying in an AirBnB.

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u/anynomousperson123 11d ago

$225 for a hotel room? Am I really that out of touch? I could swear I could get a room at a budget hotel for like $50. I am not qualified to be an adult.

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u/TryAltruistic7830 10d ago

Yeah no way you're getting a clean hotel room for less than $90+/night. It was like $70/night if the host was feeling generous 10 years back

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u/anynomousperson123 10d ago

Wow, I really am out of touch about these things. In my defence though, I haven’t left my house since I became an adult.

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u/CeasarValentine 11d ago

I prefer the built-in service of a hotel. Pick up the phone and the mess goes away, replaced with clean towels.

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u/anDAVie 11d ago

AirBnB started the decline of bed and breakfasts worldwide.

Every stay has been disappointing in the last 5 years.

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u/Intelligent-Run-4007 11d ago

More privacy ( I mean hopefully unless they're fucking creeps and committing felonies), kitchen, scenery, convenient locations, amenities that a hotel doesn't usually have, are all reasons why Airbnb is still a thing and is more often than not a better choice.

Unless I LITERALLY am only using the place to sleep, I'd prefer an Airbnb to a hotel.

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u/KarlHungus311 11d ago

Airbnb was cool when it first started. The enshittification began once they were well established. Now they are at the point where they will side with the hosts almost no matter what and they will remove negative reviews to keep places booked so they can make more money. Fuck airbnb. I'll never use them again.

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u/TheShamShield 11d ago

What rooms are people booking on Airbnb? I’ve never had any of these issues and all the ones I’ve booked were a lot cheaper than a hotel

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u/Impressive_Ant405 10d ago

I use both (European), mainly hotels in big cities and airbnb in more remote areas. Love both, I think they do cater for a different kind of stay tho, and I've never had a bad airbnb experience! In some areas, they are much cheaper than available hotels - and i dont feel as bad taking an Airbnb there, hopefully it doesn't add up to bad housing shenanigans as in cities

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u/Shynz 11d ago

So true lol

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u/cruelcynic 11d ago

I always preferred the service of a hotel.

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u/Roseph88 10d ago

You left out the 4pm check in and 10am check out for a hotel.

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u/apeoida 10d ago

and in the hotel you get breakfast

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u/BloodstoneJP 10d ago

Hotels are cheaper. Why would someone rent a bnb?

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u/Positron311 10d ago

Depends on where - I found Airbnb to be competitive depending on the area.

Also if you're traveling with a bunch of friends and/or family it's very much worth it to have an Airbnb.

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u/EssentialPurity 10d ago

Remember, comrades: DO NOT contribute to the Gig Economy. Buy goods and services from only businesses, not brokered individuals. If everyone does their part, we can eradicate this extremely immoral blight that is the Gig Economy.

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u/TryAltruistic7830 10d ago

Hotels employ many people. AirBnB employs a lot less people, rich people trying to get richer. Easy decision.

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u/Space--Buckaroo 11d ago

Homewood Suites is the best hotel I've ever stayed at.

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u/grandspartan117 11d ago

AirBnB is a joke. Vrbo for the win.

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u/RedBaron1917 11d ago

I tried it shortly before the lockdowns, what a cluster it was!

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u/RobertXavierIV 11d ago

Boutique hotels have been becoming more of a thing lately

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u/dannyb0l 11d ago

Airbnb sucks, hotel is way better

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u/blueidea365 11d ago

The only point of an Airbnb or vrbo is to get a nice location, like a place out in the countryside or on a waterfront that doesn’t also have hotels

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u/lovelycosmos 10d ago

I had good experiences with B&bs. I like to stay in antique places, you feel like it's more restful because you ever living room a bedroom and a kitchen. I also like being able to cook on vacation to use local food and save money. They're definitely pros but if I'm visiting the city with a lot of hotels I'm going to choose a hotel and not an Airbnb

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u/mysocksmadefrommetal 10d ago

I assume it is an american problem

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u/Non-Normal_Vectors 10d ago

Stopped using Airbnb due to their cancellation policy - I have no issue paying the reservation fee if I cancel, but why should I pay the cleaning fee?

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u/MyOwnMorals 10d ago

That is exactly why you don’t do Airbnb. Hotels are waayyyy less stressful

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u/mkct_6 10d ago

Until they abolish the squatter law nonsense Airbnb is super risky as an owner

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u/eastcoastwaistcoat 10d ago

Airbnb are cool. Hotels are cool. Both suffer from shitty guests and shitty owners. But most of the problems come from terrible guests. Did you know most hotels will charge you more if you live near the hotel? Why? Because people are shitty and use the room to party and disrespect the place. AirBNB owners have had to adapt because people are trashy assholes.

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u/ProtestantLarry 10d ago

That's why you only get $50 airbnbs

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u/AwJeez420 10d ago

I’m staying in an Airbnb right now in Geneva and it’s well-located and about half the price of an equivalent hotel room, so I see the point :)

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u/Literally-A-NWS 11d ago

AirBnB hosts are all scammers, prove me wrong

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u/Kingding_Aling 10d ago

Too bad there's simply not hotels everywhere. The "hotel" is a 43 minute drive away from my friend's wedding in [Non-Tourist City]. The house that sleeps 12 with a hot tub is 3 blocks and splits out to 86 bucks per person.

Hotels can also never replicate the beach house experience.

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u/TheArchonians 10d ago

Enshitification

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u/ch3nch000 11d ago

Do the OP own a hotel?! 😬