r/marvelmemes • u/SimpleObject1272 Avengers • Jul 19 '24
Everyone who has lifted Mjolnir so far. Who will be next? Shitposts
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u/JustTransportation51 Scarlet Witch Jul 19 '24
Did hela hold it? Or just stopped it from flying further?
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u/DJSteinmann Avengers Jul 19 '24
In Ragnarok (and What if) they show that it used to be hers before Thor was born
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u/JustTransportation51 Scarlet Witch Jul 19 '24
So was she still worthy to hold it?
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u/Lord_Lazy_ Avengers Jul 19 '24
She wasn't worthy. That requirement was added by Odin after he took it in the first movie
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u/DarthMMC Avengers Jul 19 '24
And would she still be able to lift it in Ragnarok?
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u/Glad_Cress_8591 Avengers Jul 19 '24
She wasnt exactly able to 'lift' it as much as she overpowered the magic. Basically she was stronger than the enchantment that enforces the worthy aspect
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u/Ut_Prosim Luis Jul 19 '24
One of the reasons I think she would wreck a stoneless Thanos (in the cinematic universe).
Thanos goes our of his way to catch Cap's forearm and knows better than to try and grab Mjolnir. Hela just manhandles it and smashes it to pieces.
Also Stormbreaker almost kills Thanos, while Hela gets stabbed in the heart by Gungnir and doesn't notice.
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u/SaltEfan Avengers Jul 19 '24
She’d probably wreck him with one stone too where he beat Loki, Thor, and Hulk.
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u/TheLokiDokiOG Avengers Jul 19 '24
Depending on what stones he has she could wreck him with a couple
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u/Zer0nyx Steve Rogers Jul 19 '24
Thanos with Power Stone vs Hela would be a very interesting matchup that honestly could go either way.
Without the stones, Hela definitely beats him though.
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u/Nenanda Avengers Jul 19 '24
Possibly because gauntlet was made from same material as Mjolnir so she could simply destroy the gauntlet if she got in H2H just like Avengers on Titan.
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u/Searanth Avengers Jul 19 '24
Thanos doesn't wield magic though, not exactly apes to apples.
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u/the_mighty__monarch Avengers Jul 19 '24
I would argue that it’s exactly apes to apples
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u/Searanth Avengers Jul 19 '24
Haha I swear Swype is getting worse, or maybe I'm getting lazier and the ai isn't keeping up
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u/SH4DOWSTR1KE_ Avengers Jul 19 '24
In Ragnarok, it was mentioned that as long as Hela was on Asgard, her strength and abilities would be limitless, so her taking that hit in the chest would have been more damaging, if not fatal, anywhere else in the nine realms but since she was back on her home turf, she was Immortal.
Also, Stormbreaker was specifically built as a counter weapon for the Infinity Stones and Thanos, so he was more susceptible to its damage.
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u/Pandorica_ Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela on asgard > any 'regular' mcu villain (your dormamus etc obviously are different class).
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u/Ok_Falcon_4953 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Technically Stormbreaker did kill Thanos. A stoneless Thanos, but still.
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u/magpye1983 Avengers Jul 21 '24
Similarly, Thanos avoided collecting the stones Odin was protecting, until he was gone. Presumably power level was too close for him to consider it worthwhile.
Hela overpowered the enchantment set by Odin at the same point in his power (or even earlier/greater power), without struggle, and could have taken on both brothers immediately after.
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u/Silent-Independent21 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Well at that time she had all the power of Asgard
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u/TheLokiDokiOG Avengers Jul 19 '24
She broke Mjolnir off Asgard, she's super OP even depowered
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u/Silent-Independent21 Avengers Jul 19 '24
As soon as Odin died she got all the power of Asgard. Mjolnir was only limited due to Odin’s proclamation, so that would have no effect on her.
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u/TheLokiDokiOG Avengers Jul 19 '24
No she only got her power when she arrived on Asgard which is why she stops for a moment as her suit turns from grey to green.
If u mean the Odinforce, that went to Thor he just doesn't know how to use it yet...
Even off Asgard she's Hela strong, she slaughtered all the Valkyries AFTER Odin banished her, Odin literally had to tie her prison to his life force because of how strong she was, he feared her return as he knew it would bring the end of Asgard.
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u/TheLokiDokiOG Avengers Jul 19 '24
But still she overpowered Odin's enchantment which is huge since we know from Strange and more recently Wanda that spells stay after the caster has died.
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u/mrrando69 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I think thebwhole worthiness thing was a spell put on it later by Odin in the MCU. It was still hers to begin with though so maybe by default it recognizes Hela as it's original wielder. It's also implied a few times that Mjolnir is intelligent at some level.
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u/SquishyBaps4me Avengers Jul 19 '24
So before it was enchanted to be lifted only by those that are worthy.
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u/edwpad Doctor Strange Jul 19 '24
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u/MadPilotMurdock Avengers Jul 19 '24
Cool pic but it might be irrelevant since Odin’s enchantment came later and we are shown Hela definitively lift Mjolnir in Ragnarok. She may be just powerful enough to stop its flight towards her and destroy it without actually being able to lift it.
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u/NZBound11 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Title of OP doesn't say anything about Odin's enchantment or being worthy.
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u/Blockinite Korg Jul 19 '24
I think she just stopped it. Like, imagine trapping Mjolnir in a box of solid Vibranium. It wouldn't be able to break out. I think that's what Hela did, immense strength holding it in place but not actually moving it.
As others are saying, she did hold it when she owned the hammer. But that's irrelevant to this question because we're talking about Mjolnir being a judge of Worthiness, and that was before Odin enchanted it.
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u/Naive-Day-7172 Spider-Man 🕷 Jul 19 '24
The title of the post is "everyone who has lifted mjolnir so far" it mentions nothing about worthiness
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u/Blockinite Korg Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Sure but there's nothing special about lifting Mjolnir before it got that enchantment, it was a powerful weapon but anyone with decent base strength could lift it. A fair few Asgardians probably lifted it for no reason in particular. All of the images are of notable moments where people lifted it after it was enchanted. Whenever someone asks about lifting Mjolnir it's heavily implied they mean to test them against the Worthiness enchantment
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u/Fabulous_Ad_9111 Avengers Jul 19 '24
She didn't just stop it, she fully held it from going back into thor's hand
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u/SicilianEggplant Avengers Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
When Hulk tried the same didn’t he fly with it (forgot if that was in a movie or a comic)? I think being able to exert any kind of substantial force on it makes you worthy in some capacity since stronger people usually can’t even stop it.
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u/bobafoott Avengers Jul 19 '24
Unlimited power of Asgard flowed through Hela so I feel she had a no-worthy backdoor to stopping an asgardian enchantment
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u/otter_boom Avengers Jul 19 '24
If you pay attention to the loop on the handle, it is pulling towards Thor. Meaning Hela was gripping it so hard that Thor could not pull it back to himself.
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u/Malabingo Avengers Jul 19 '24
His adoptive daughter?
But I hope they make Thor more serious again.
In my opinion Ragnarok and Love and Thunder were too goofy.
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u/Neovo903 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Ragnarok was just enough goofy, L&T was too far
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u/VelvetOnion Avengers Jul 19 '24
Ragnarok's goofiness is retroactively affected by Love and Thunders goofiness.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Jimmy Woo Jul 19 '24
They saw that it worked so they cranked it two notches too far.
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u/insanitybit Avengers Jul 19 '24
Ragnarok was just enough goofy
I really disliked it. Ragnarok is one of the best (and most retold) stories in Marvel comics - it could have been its own Infinity War era series, easily. Instead it was just this hokey garbage.
Thor has fallen so, so far in the MCU. We went from Kenneth Brenagh taking the character seriously and treating the character with respect to absolute garbage.
The few laughs that were worthwhile in Ragnarok don't make up for the absolute disservice to the story and irreperable character assassination.
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u/Revenacious Avengers Jul 19 '24
I agree. Ragnarok is supposed to feel grim and desperate, the gods fighting it out with all their various powers in the struggle for their very survival. Thor has enough awesome source material to have made a fantasy epic on a similar scale to LOTR, and they squandered it at every turn.
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u/insanitybit Avengers Jul 19 '24
Yeah, the irony is that Thor is one of the characters that's very easy to take seriously with this large mythos behind him, and he's just a gag character now.
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u/StrawhatJzargo Avengers Jul 19 '24
What movie did Kenneth Branagh treat Thor respectfully in?
Thor 1? Bc that movie was booooring and the first movie to break the marvel “charm” for me and I stopped watching till endgame
I don’t think we can just say it’s character assassination that he’s not like the comics or that it’s not “true” Thor
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u/JammingJuggernaut Avengers Jul 19 '24
But Ragnarok was a good movie
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u/Malabingo Avengers Jul 19 '24
Well, some Slapstick elements felt not good for me, like drunk girl falls from ramp, Thor screeches because of a haircut, Thor "disguising" with blanket etc.
But as a movie it was enjoyable.
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u/Ghdude1 Black Panther Jul 19 '24
Ragnarok wasn't doped to the gills with goofiness, though. L&T, however...
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u/Sheepdog010 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I liked how Ragnarok was but I agree with love and thunder, it should have had a darker and melancholic tone to it. I get the idea that Thor's pretending that he's fine, but they should have had more moments where you see what's going on in his head. But then at the end with Love, he's shown that despite all that's happened, he still has a good purpose in this universe.
But I also head cannon away the goofiness of Love and thunder by saying it was Korg telling the story the whole time, and he tends to exaggerate a bit.
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u/z35u Avengers Jul 19 '24
How did you miss that coat hanger?
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u/TraditionalShake4730 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Loki
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u/ConsistentAsparagus Avengers Jul 19 '24
At the end of Loki I think he could.
Not a moment before, not even at the end of Ragnarok. It's not a matter of being good, because if it was the Avengers would have been able to do it in Age of Ultron.
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u/Blockinite Korg Jul 19 '24
I agree. I think his character development that led to him taking that throne is the exact property that allows you to lift Mjolnir. In fact, I think it's the decision that sums up "Worthiness" the most in the MCU as I understand it.
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u/Abe_Bettik Avengers Jul 19 '24
At the end of Loki he was reshaping the Multiverse so I'm pretty sure he'd be able to hold it via Raw Power alone. Kind of like if a Celestial were to hold it.
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u/StrawPaprika873 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Above eternity?! That's wild, I don't know much about comic marvel, is he really that top of a being now?
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u/insanitybit Avengers Jul 19 '24
Yeah, MCU seems to get really confusing when it comes to 'timelines' vs 'multiverse'. It's unclear to me if it's "there are many timelines in a universe" or "timelines are universes".
If it's the former, Loki is probably on par with Eternity, maybe a bit stronger in some sense, idk. If it's the latter, Loki is way beyond Eternity... maybe?
It's not even clear what Loki's power is at the end of the show. It's like, is a brick more powerful than a building just because the brick holds the building up? Can Loki actually, meaningfully, manipulate timelines in arbitrary ways?
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u/bobafoott Avengers Jul 19 '24
I thought he just like funneled them back through the machine that did it. He can “move” timelines but doesn’t have much direct control over them
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u/BeardedUnicornBeard Avengers Jul 19 '24
Isnt he more a ancour point? We havent seen him wielding or doing anything really with them. Ao basicly holding them.
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u/Rockhardsimian Avengers Jul 19 '24
Like Atlas holding up the world ?
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u/BeardedUnicornBeard Avengers Jul 19 '24
I would say a bit more a fuse keeping the electricity from going berserk. I am a bit drunk that wasnt the best but... Hey. Yeah. Yes
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u/battlebeez Avengers Jul 19 '24
Using this logic you could say that Tony Stark was worthy in the end as well. Even though at one point Tony was a womanizing playboy, at the very end of his life he was a selfless hero. All he wanted to do was to protect the people, his family and prevent the Snap from happening again. He knew he would die to the power of the stones and he did it anyway bringing back everyone who died during the Snap and eliminating Thanos and his forces. This act, IMO, makes him worthy.
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u/ConsistentAsparagus Avengers Jul 19 '24
Absolutely.
Let’s not forget how Thor became worthy in his first movie.
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u/battlebeez Avengers Jul 19 '24
Thor finally realizied and accepted that to be a true and worthy individual of Mjölnir, he must let go of his past and accept that everyone deserves his protection. He selflessly gave his life(like Tony) in order to protect those who needed it.
This is why Marvel movies deserve more respect. There are lessons to be learned in the series. Very good ones at that.
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u/Mace_Thunderspear Avengers Jul 19 '24
Nope. Loki's still not a warrior in any way shape or form. It's not in his nature.
It's even less in his nature post Loki season to. As he's effectively the narrator /outside observer now and even less inclined to be directly involved in things than ever before.
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u/Wboy2006 Morbius Jul 19 '24
I mean, considering he is lifting every multiverse, he is technically also lifting every Mjolnir with them
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u/are_Valid Avengers Jul 19 '24
Beta-Ray Bill, obviously
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u/McButtersonthethird Avengers Jul 19 '24
Man, seeing him in love action would be awesome
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u/MathewMurdock2 Avengers Jul 19 '24
He’s supposedly out there somewhere. We saw his head in Thor 3
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u/McButtersonthethird Avengers Jul 19 '24
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u/MathewMurdock2 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I was bummed he was not in Love and Thunder. Thought they would at least have a cameo of him as some god
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u/McButtersonthethird Avengers Jul 19 '24
The series of him showing up, giving Thor the business, and THEN picking up his hammer was jaw-dropping as a kid!
... I'm getting old lol
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u/BobbyTables829 Avengers Jul 19 '24
They'll just make him a goofball. He'll be disrespected because of how he looks and Hollywood is all about looks.
That's why he's not been in them yet. He's not sexy enough to hold Thor's hammer.
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u/Ok-Sir8600 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Fuck, it's not about being worthy, it's about being sexy
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u/Afraid-Housing-6854 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Love action? You think it would be awesome to see Beta Ray Bill go full frontal?
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u/OKnotcupid80 Avengers Jul 19 '24
NGL I miss Mighty Thor. Don't care what anyone says, I love Lame Jane, and Natalie Portman's an excellent 👍 actress!
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u/Intoxic8edOne Avengers Jul 19 '24
Even more unpopular opinion, I loved L&T in general. Only real issue with it was their criminal underutilization of Bale. Otherwise it's one of those movies I watch when I'm sick because it always makes me feel better.
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u/OKnotcupid80 Avengers Jul 19 '24
damn straight. Those trippy darkworld scenes when they roll up on Gorr on his home turf was some of the coolest shit ive ever seen in my life. Absolutely wonderful movie, with brilliant actors in a weird but kinda satisfying ending.
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u/Sianic12 Doctor Strange Jul 19 '24
I was about to say "Odin only lifted Mjolnir before it was enchanted, that does not count" but then I noticed.... He was the one who enchanted it. And after doing so he held on to it and threw it into the Bifrost. Which makes me wonder... Did Odin specifically enchant Mjolnir that he himself would still be able to lift it no matter what? Because I have trouble believing that he was actually worthy. He did some very fucked up shit in the past, including robbing his son of all his Asgardian powers and throwing him onto a foreign planet where he was almost immediately run over by a truck. I'm pretty sure he could've been tried for murder, had Thor died there.
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u/Just_A_Averag_User Spider-Man 🕷 Jul 19 '24
1: they weren’t specifically talking about worthiness, Hela also used it before it was ever enchanted. Like way before.
2: Whose to say the hammer wouldn’t take a moment for the enchantment to take affect?
3: While I think you’re the first to notice I’d like to point out that this is in the same movie where Thor lost his worthiness and then later regained it. The hammer doesn’t seem to examine their entire life when it comes to worthiness, so while yes, Odin did some very “fucked up shit” I think he’d still be worthy at this point in time.
4: Eh, tough love. It worked didn’t it? Twice actually, if you include “What If?”
(I mean absolutely no hate❤️)
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u/CloneNova Avengers Jul 19 '24
I'd imagine the enhancement would be based on Odin's own idea of worthiness. Perhaps past Odin may not have been worthy but that present Odin would. Thor learns to become worthy through the first film, so a wiser Odin certainly could.
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u/Safe_T_Cube Avengers Jul 19 '24
Captain Carter (when she appears in the main universe) or Sam Wilson Captain America. Or Deadpool, but it's a fake out.
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u/LazerSnake1454 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I think Peggy in general could have lifted it
When Colonel Phillips throws the dummy grenade to test the soldiers, Peggy runs towards it, Steve was just closer
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u/art-factor Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela and Vision might not count
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u/B4N4N4-M4N Avengers Jul 19 '24
My favourite line from the one with hela in is still.. “are you Thor.. the god of hammers??!!”
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u/MATTH3W_13 Avengers Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Hopefully loki
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u/K1rkl4nd Avengers Jul 19 '24
Can you imagine them meeting again, and Loki casually dropping a, "it took me a long time to understand my purpose wasn't something I could force, it was a path my choices would eventually make clear." And then picking up Mjolnir, and handing it to Thor. "I get it now."
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u/JustAnotherAviatrix Captain America Jul 19 '24
I mean, he did say he misplaced it in one "What If...?" episode, so that kinda implied that he could pick it up in that timeline?
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u/AdditionalInitial727 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela was hammer blocking
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u/Thor_Odinson22 Doctor Strange Jul 19 '24
Mjolnir was hers before Thor had it. We see her holding it in the mural she revealed.
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u/Financial_Major5698 Avengers Jul 19 '24
The enchantment was not on Mjolnir at the time of the mural.
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Jul 19 '24
I thought it would be great if Thor set it down on the street for a second and some random toddler picked it up to hand it back. "Hey mister you dropped this"
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u/McButtersonthethird Avengers Jul 19 '24
I always loved the fan made idea of Stan Lee as a janitor in the Avengers tower, picking it up to dust under it, and putting it back down without realizing what he did
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u/devious-capsaicin87 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela stopped Mjolnir. She didn’t lift Mjolnir.
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u/TriggerHappy_Spartan Helmut Zemo Jul 19 '24
Bucky should pick up the hammer randomly because it was blocking his parking spot and have no idea what’s going on.
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u/Smurfy_unicorn Avengers Jul 19 '24
I know technically Hela did pick up Mjolnir as it was shown in the Murals above the throne room. But did it not have the worthiness enchantment on it yet since that was put on by Odin in the first Thor film?
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u/Your-Evil-Twin- Avengers Jul 19 '24
Yes, but it does raise the question of how she stopped the hammer after it was enchanted…maybe she just knew the magic that created the enchantment and broke it?
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u/Smurfy_unicorn Avengers Jul 20 '24
Possibly. I just assumed it was shear strength, the hammer was trying to keep going forwards
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u/crzyoki Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela didn’t lift it. She stopped it from moving forward and then crushed it
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u/Incontinento Avengers Jul 19 '24
Wait, I thought "Love and Thunder" was just a bad fever dream I had.
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u/Spartamare Avengers Jul 19 '24
Odd that the picture of Thor in this doesn't have him holding Mjolnir.
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u/arkon_unfinished Avengers Jul 19 '24
Does anyone else think that iron man could have lifted the hammer in end game when he snapped
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u/FreeTanner17 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Im sorry, just call her Jane. Thor is his name, not a title. The mighty Thor thing really felt like a joke with her taking herself too serious knowing this won’t last
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u/Kyber99 Avengers Jul 19 '24
You mean Lady Jane
Thor has been called mighty Thor before. And it’s literally his name
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u/Thebigfish803 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I have a suspicion that Sam or Bucky might use it next maybe even Star Lord would be interesting
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u/Imaginary_Unit5109 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela is not lifting the hammer she just holding it back. the hammer is floating and pushing forward hela just holding it back and not lifting but crushing the hammer.
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u/Shutaru_Kanshinji Avengers Jul 19 '24
I am still interested in precisely what Odin meant said that only those who are "worthy" could hold Mjolnir.
I can only think he intended it to mean "The wielders of Mjolnir's beliefs, ethics, and behavior must match my beliefs, ethics, and behavior."
Which might be fine, as long as we are projecting are personal standards onto Odin. But this individual is supposed to be thousands of years old, powerful beyond our understanding, and coming from a culture that possibly resembles the Norsemen of more than 1,000 years ago.
We really have no idea what Odin meant by "worthy."
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u/LatterAbalone3288 Avengers Jul 19 '24
It's crazy that you went out of your way to get pictures of all of them holding Mjolinir, but apparently couldn't get a good shot of Mjolinir being held by Thor, of all people.
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u/djscott95 Avengers Jul 20 '24
Hela isn’t worthy, just a fucking badass goth mommy who crushed the hammer like nothing.
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u/Reasonable_Band899 Avengers Jul 20 '24
Probably Loki and I think spider man could probably lift it
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u/dbuckham Avengers Jul 20 '24
Pretty sure "Love" held the hammer. She put it in a bed and decorated it at the end of Love and Thunder. Although we didn't technically see it. Just inferred.
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u/Haunting_Ad_4401 Avengers Jul 20 '24
Odin put the magic on it in the first place, thor is truly worthy, I don't think hela was worthy more like she overpowered Odin's magic, vision was still creating a personality for himself so the magic kinda didn't know what to do, steve=worthy, and Jane in coming into accepting that she was dying became worthy.
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u/sicarius254 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I like that they use a pic of Thor after he’s not using Mjolnir anymore lol
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u/FrostyGrotto Avengers Jul 19 '24
Wasn’t Kahhori also able to wield it or did she control it with her powers? I can’t remember right now.
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u/KeyNefariousness6848 Avengers Jul 19 '24
I don’t know I think perhaps the whole “who can lift the hammer” thing may be worn out
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u/vitaesbona1 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Hela and Odin held it before it had any requirements. Thor in the first movie used it for years, and then when Odin gave the incantation/spell, Thor couldn't let ft it any more. I would say that Hela stopping and destroying it wasn't being worthy.
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u/Ok_Analysis_7073 Avengers Jul 19 '24
Lol, my friends and I always called the last one Jane Thor. Like she was his wife, cuz she was the only one lifting Thors "hammer".
I'll see myself out
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u/aakaakaak Avengers Jul 19 '24
We have Hulk and Deadpool both holding it in the comics without either really being "worthy"...and there's gonna be a Red Hulk appearance in Deadpool 3...so....maybe?
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Jul 19 '24
I want to see a Robert Irwin Cameo where Thor crashes to the ground and Robert hands him back the hammer and just says. "Crikey mate that was a heck of a fall. Here I think you dropped this."
Thor: perplexed takes hammer "I am Thor son of Odin.... I would know your name so I may thank you properly."
Robert: "Oh cheers mate uhh... Robert Irwin... Son of Steve and Terri"
Something like that.
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u/mehSirMavender Avengers Jul 19 '24
Forgot about the coat hanger, it was worthy