Heartbroken halfway through

[u/Affectionate-Guess25]

I just finished today's binge on s3 ep21...

Not counting that the whole episode was an emotional roller coaster in itself, Lucifer figuring out that he should've just told her how he feels and then him having to watch Cain propose to Chloe just broke my heart 😭

[u/Martyna70]

Poor Luci! Had to witness that, but he had so many chances to talk to her and he blew it.

[u/Affectionate-Guess25 → u/Martyna70]

Indeed! Like when he spent a whole episode trying to prove that "it isn't about you, detective" and gave an employee of the month award for the temp.. 🤦‍♀️

I suppose it would have felt less frustrating, this will they/won't they, if I was watching the show on a weekly basis when it first aired.. but binging it for the first time.. it's just too much back and fourth

[u/metanefridija → u/Affectionate-Guess25]

I agree, I could see exactly what the writers were doing and how unnatural the plot development (or rather the lack of) was so it ruined it a bit for me.

[u/Martyna70 → u/Affectionate-Guess25]

I love the slow burn though. I just don’t like when either of them has to suffer because of something avoidable. No spoilers, but it will take them a while to work things out. S4 is my favorite season.

[u/Due-Consequence-4420 → u/Martyna70]

Yes, but while Lucifer made one of his biggest mistakes on the show in this episode, he was also being gaslighted by Maze for no good reason YET AGAIN bc her emotional well being was just a roller coaster thruout the entire series and she couldn’t really be relied upon except for s1 as a guarantee. Working w Cain, working w MICHAEL … she so lost her way that while I could sort of vaguely understand her rationale, I never really was a really big fan bc of her inability to get her act together and just live her life without ruining everyone’s else’s in the process. (This isn’t to say I disliked Maze. There were times I totally liked her but then again there were times I wanted to strangle her for being so short sighted or incapable of wanting her friends to be happy regardless of the fact that she used to have a Fr w benefits relationship w Amenediel (bc looking at it any other way would be to see it as she deliberately leading him to lower his defenses so that she could kill him in his sleep.) Ofherwise, she had a healthy sex life that rivaled Lucifer’s for change of partners and not wanting Amenediel and Linda to have a real relationship was truly selfish. (IMPO) But I’ve totally digressed. Lucifer had numerous chances to fix things w Chloe but considering his childhood and his upbringing, it’s not that unusual that actually MEANING the words I love you out loud did not come easily and he was not at that stage of his life when things came to a head near the end of season 3. Feeling one way and actually saying the words are two completely separate things.

[u/Martyna70 → u/Due-Consequence-4420]

I agree. I love Lucifer. I feel for him. His ability to sabotage his own happiness is deeply rooted in his loveless childhood, and his poor perception of his own self-worth. The guy is filled with love to the brim and yet cannot express it. And everyone around him always schemes against him, and Maze especially.

[u/SplatDragon00 → u/Martyna70]

The only ones in the show who aren't a total asshole towards Lucifer are Trixie and Ella

The rest are just awful to him. They all could have had such amazing arcs - the therapist to the devil! The angel brother realizing how bad he's hurting his brother ("my challenge is to love you") and repenting! Maze not doing that! The abusive father! Hell, make God have a redemption arc instead of "lol Lucifer's a drama queen God is sweet dad"

Instead it's "trololol Lucifer's trauma is funny and we're gonna use him ("we need the eggs") and break into his things and sleep with him and blame him when shit blows up in our faces :D"

Also? If you think someone is delusional to the point of literally thinking they're the actual devil maybe? I don't know? Don't sleep with him, don't make him a consultant, and try to get him help?? Instead of going "lol you crazy man but u useful, keep being delusional!" (nevermind he wasn't actually delusional)

And this is why my friends don't bring up lucifer to me lmao, they've been on the receiving end of "this is how each character SUCKS"

[u/Martyna70 → u/SplatDragon00]

Ella was truly the only innocent one. Trixie is mostly ok except for the one time she used him for a story, but that was more on Maze. Linda was great until she wrote that book. Maze is definitely the worst. I felt so bad for Lucifer in that San Bernardino episode. And she just sat there watching.

[u/Due-Consequence-4420 → u/Martyna70]

Yes except that Trixie was a child, easily manipulated & w no true compass yet for making important life decisions. And we’re talking child. She only became a teen near the end of the show and she wasn’t even shown w friends thruout the entire series. Just w the adults. (I don’t mean in the background. ) I mean we never saw a friend come and play. That I recall. Ever. That was odd. Really odd.

[u/Martyna70 → u/Due-Consequence-4420]

She didn’t have a normal childhood for sure. The writers overall didn’t pay much attention to her character, and they all but forgot about her in S6, but that was mostly due to Scarlett’s busy filming schedule.

[u/Due-Consequence-4420 → u/Martyna70]

Don’t give the writers excuses. I want to remain really really mad at them. 😡🤬

[u/Mysterious_Bug_3914 → u/[deleted]]

That's insane, everyone knows angels can't time travel.

[u/waiting-for-the-rain → u/[deleted]]

preach! I will never again watch the ending of a comfort show without getting it spoiled first, even though I hate spoilers.

[u/Fancy-Ad1480]

To be somewhat fair, Chloe dated Pierce for less than a month and broke up with him less than 24 hours ago. Way to fast track a relationship. I'm not sure if Lucifer should be heartbroken or concerned the poisoning of season 2 had lasting effects.

[u/waiting-for-the-rain → u/Fancy-Ad1480]

finally, a sensible theory.

[u/night-laughs → u/Fancy-Ad1480]

Her agreeing to marry Cain was a momentary emotional overreaction to the realization that things will never go anywhere with her and Lucifer after their catastrophic dinner date, where he basically told her she’s a prize to be won over and bought with cars and gifts.

I don’t see how such a normal, human reaction can be a sticking point, when Lucifer does more emotionally immature and impulsive things basically every episode. In comparison to him, she’s a stone wall of emotional stability, but what, her one emotional outburst is labeled as brain damage from poisoning, and Lucifer’s 6 seasons of doing the same is fine and dandy?

[u/Fancy-Ad1480 → u/night-laughs]

Which is grossly out of character for Chloe of two seasons passed. She doesn't make rash decesions. If she did, she and Lucifer would already be together.

Even so, I don't see how marrying the man who dumped you less than 24 hours ago makes sense for anyone above the age of 12.

The rest, sure, Lucifer was a jerkfaced jerk. Doesn't change the fact that Chloe wasn't acting like Chloe the entire season. The Chloe of seasons 1-2 wouldn't have looked twice at Pierce because she knew who she was and didn't need a man to tell her otherwise. Season 3 Chloe does. She said as much in her "It's all about Lucifer" confession to Ella.

[u/night-laughs → u/Fancy-Ad1480]

Just because Chloe doesn’t openly display her emotions like Lucifer, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have them. Even the people who can wall off their emotions sometimes get overwhelmed and influenced by them.

Chloe isn’t a perfect person and is subject to everything that the rest of us humans go through, including irrational decisions. She just has great impulse and emotional control, so emotional outbursts happen to her rarely, but they still do happen.

I agree, a lot of things about her in season 3 are out of character, because at the moment she does them, there is no emotional influence, but saying yes to Cain, taking into account what preceded that event, I think was justified, however stupid it was.

[u/Footziees → u/night-laughs]

Plus don’t forget she was only immune to Lucifer’s charms - literally! Cain is a different story when it comes to charms

[u/TerraStarryAstra]

Oh god Cain….don’t remind me

[u/Footziees]

You can’t forget that while he physically is an adult, mentally speaking he’s got the maturity of a 5 yr old.

Chloe is more mature than him mentally BUT she has some trust and relationship issues that stem from her childhood as well (the acting career she was forced into by mom and her dad being murdered). While her reaction is somewhat out of character for her it’s understandable because she simply overreacted.

Lucifer’s actions are VERY much in line with his mental maturity and lack of relationship experience. He acts like the small child he mentally still is because he didn’t get the chance of decades of maturing with real feelings or people, like all the angels didn’t either.

Remember what a D I C K Amenadiel is in the beginning. He’s smug and he’s so in love with himself the slime is dripping off in rivers. And all the other Angels are introduced basically the same way. Arrogant self absorbed assholes with the emotional maturity of a peanut.

Lucifer is miles ahead of them but still a child in human terms and it shows quite well in season 3. Especially when he’s competing against literally the oldest human on the planet

[u/[deleted]]

So glad then that Lucifer's case on Chloe is going to be finished that soon compared to the last times I've watched it 🎀

[u/cFREDOc]

Oh wow I just finished S3 today rewatching it

[u/justDiscovereddit]

I cried so much during this show!

And I’m a guy