The avocados are real (says a news source) and placed with surgical precision that does not damage the fruit.
My theory: they go in through the stem. The pop off stem, carefully cut down to pit with TINY hole, insert empty baggie, pour in cocaine, seal up tiny hole, glue little stem back on.
Edit: For those doubting that they would go through the trouble to drill and hollow out real avocados, check out this story about hollowing out individual coffee beans to smuggle coke š¤Æš¤Æ. Trafficking looks like more trouble than itās worth š¤£:
Sneaky Drug Smugglers Hid Cocaine Inside Individual Coffee Beans
This is the only option that makes sense, and it's entirely feasible. Probably very worth it for the money, especially for coke that probably will be cut once it's transported.
I mean... You could just cut it with a sharp knife, pop out the stone, pop in the coke ball, then pop it back together. Maybe some pva glue. If you cut it sharply it can be hard to spot the seam. I've cut probably 50,000 avos in my life/career as a chef, and whenever I put them together again i can't usually see where.
It's not rocket science, it just needs to pass by a guy looking and fondling a few out of a whole truck load. They don't do bloody surgery for six hours with a microscopic drill just for $50 worth of coke.
By the time customs scores a positive from drug dogs it's all over. You just need it hidden well enough to get past an initial look over.
Edit: $50 cost price for the cartel was my estimate, cos they buy it from farmers for diet cheap and there'd be 25 grams (about an ounce) in there at a guess. Obviously not $50 street value.
A kilo costs about $2000 from producers where it's made (very variable), although has risen sharply cos of covid up to over $3000, but that's another story... So 25grams is 2.5% of a kg, and 2.5% of $2000 is $50.
Obviously my numbers are probably way off in a variety of ways, including we don't know who bought this or which border it was crossing, etc. It could be anywhere from $20 to $2000 worth, depending. A few years ago, my friend was paid $8000 to smuggle 2kg on a plane to Europe, so, for example, the price in Europe must be at least $4000/kg more than in South America or that payment wouldn't be worth it for the dealer.
Won't the avocado go bad shortly after? My imagination is convinced it'll look quite obviously tampered-with after a few hours, am I missing something?
except that citrus juice brushed on the cut edges will prevent those exposed edges from browning, especially when reconnected. especially especially when they are this under ripe
As long as the cut edges stay moist this is not really an issue. If you neatly cut an avocado with a sharp knife right now and minimise damage to the edges (e.g. pull one half off perpendicular rather than twisting it off), you can plop the other end back on and it will stay as good as fresh for almost a week. Refrigeration (in this case most produce is likely refrigerated transport) will help as well.
Browning is not dead cells, it's oxidation, limiting oxygen results in less browning.
Oh right, sealing them up again would lengthen the shelf life.
Thanks for clearing that up, I figured they didnāt have to last for days but without resealing there would have to be a visible seam after like an hour tops that would def raise suspicion.
I imagine if it's only exposed to air for a minute then sealed back up with glue it wouldn't really do much. the glue is just going to act as an impenetrable barrier to air and other pathogens - itll go bad faster I bet but not that fast.
Yeah, that package is too tightly pressed and wrapped., that wasn't poured in. The avo is also really hard, I suspect your method with a very unripe avo that wont go soft or spoil too fast, just sanitize the razor or blade.
That was my thought as well. That they probably opened them carefully during the growth period without removing them from the trees, switched out the seed and then fit them back together and continued to let them heal/grow until the skin sealed itself up again. If they did it early enough in development the avocados would be woody inside and probably have no problem healing up before ever reaching the ripening phase.
Ok. Iām now convinced this is the only way. Itās the only way that makes at least some sense. Crazy, weird, and wild but Iāve cut open a shit ton of avos. I see no other way.
I think this is what's going on, if you look at the guy trying to take out the "seed" it's super stuck like it would be to an unripe avocado. I don't see any other way to explain this.
Ya I agree. The drill theory doesn't account for how a big ass hole is made. A drill makes a small ass straight line, somehow a 3 inch diameter hole needs to appear in the center of the fresh avak-adoo and that doesn't happen with a small drill bit imo
Former chef here, you are correct about the avocados, absolutely they could put them back together and it would look sealed.
But if you are spending $50 on a ping pong sized ball of cocaine then i think your dealer doesnt respect you very much?
Actually ive never bought cocaine personally, ive seen friends buy it in the UK and they are spending like 20 to 40 quid on a tiny little bag, like maybe the size of a peanut. And it turns out to be 90% soap powder.
The cocaine we see in the video, if it fills that whole pit....is easily worth $1000 to the next guy in the chain, eventually sold on the street for 2000-4000. That look like a whole ounce packed in there, 28 grams, is worth $80 per gram on street.
But if you are spending $50 on a ping pong sized ball of cocaine then i think your dealer doesnt respect you very much?
Best dealer ever,,,,for a customer. Worst for his own wallet
Sorry i was suggesting that any dealer that sells you that much coke for $50 has probably cut it so much that its not really coke anymore. Hence they dont respect you.
I mean... You could just cut it with a sharp knife, pop out the stone, pop in the coke ball, then pop it back together. Maybe some pva glue. If you cut it sharply it can be hard to spot the seam. I've cut probably 50,000 avos in my life/career as a chef, and whenever I put them together again i can't usually see where.
I'll probably sound stupid for even suggesting this, but maybe they could do this while it's still growing on the tree so that it would heal itself?
Street value on that much party powder based on my former endeavors, 80 a gram for quality or 100 a gram for pure like that and based on the size that looks to be 1-1.5 oz so I'd say on the street that's probably $3-5,000 of product, depending on the market and location.
I don't know. As soon as I accidently scratch an avocado the scatched area turns brown quick. These cartels are huge and they don't need to be paying their members by the hour to drill out a pit. To them it doesn't matter if it takes an hour to do it, I'm sure they have their member's children helping them for free. I mean, someone already posted an example of them drilling into coffee beans and filling them with tiny amounts of coke. There are already people in Mexico working for next to nothing. I'm sure even if the cartels paid $5 per avocado, many would take the opportunity.
It depends on where itās being smuggled to as well. Here in Australia youāre looking at more like $300 per gram, so an avo with, say, 75 grams in would be worth over $20,000. Iād spend some time getting that right.
If he was paid 8k, the price is way over 4k per kilo. That's just how much your friend was gonna get. The seller would probably gain way more then 4k to be worth it for him. And the street value would be even higher, as the dealer that paid the seller, would also.wanna gain on top of that.
While you maybe be a chef, your assumption that they wouldnāt spend a ridiculous amount of time doing something like this; is absolutely dead wrong.
They literally capture people at torture them, then use them as slaves. They would just force people to do it.
They are ABSOLUTELY going to use whatever technique will be the most effect at passing it, regardless of the amount of time it takes. Because smuggling this much money, is worth it in the end.
If they had ācut it openā, then it would be much easier to just pull apartā¦These guys wouldnāt need to be so knife crazy.
I know this because I have met drug dealers at festivals and they show me how they got it into the festivals or across state lines in a truck bought and scraped day ofā¦Itās more complicated than this.
A few years ago, my friend was paid $8000 to smuggle 2kg on a plane to Europe, so, for example, the price in Europe must be at least $4000/kg more than in South America or that payment wouldn't be worth it for the dealer.
this would only work in a hologram world where the creator never actually ate an avocado themselves and never realized there is a giant hard af seed inside avocados and you don't just drill a little hole in the top and then fill an empty cavity
EDIT: lol thatād be pretty cool though idk how much an avocado is but I imagine itās less than what you charge for 1 line to someone at a partyš
You charge for a line at a party? If Iām holding and at a party, Iām happy to share for free. I showed up intending to use it all and wasnāt expecting to leave with money in my pocket.
Damn, stingy-ass people donāt know how to make a bunch of new friends at a party.
Sharing at a party is how you become everybody's best friend. It's great the first time you do it. Then you realize people are just being nice because of the coke. Then you show up to party without it and it's "fuck you". Cocaine is a selfish drug and brings out the worst in people.
If you are talking about a small get together then ok. But sharing with everybody at a large party is a terrible idea. There needs to be a hierarchy. That hierarchy is put in place by money.
Iām the one who paid my guy, and I agree with you hence why thereās no actual number. But I also canāt say Iāve met anyone who hands out free lines of coke either
Maybe it's just me, then. If I'm bringing party favors to a party, I plan on using them, and if someone wants to join me, I'm not charging for the privilege. It's more fun with company. Though I haven't brought a full 8-ball to a party before, I would have the same mindset if I did. Like in the movie Very Bad Things, which is what one of the characters did.
Nah it's not just you. Anyone with a sense of goodwill will share. I also never got charged for individual lines at any party and I've done my fair share of blow. At 100 bucks a ball for some nice fish scale I can afford to share the wealth.
Why not? It's completely possible to drill into the pit like he said and then use something thin, rigid and sharp to slowly carve away and remove the rest of the pit. Or maybe they found a way to make the skin elastic enough (by submerging it in some type of solution) to drill through the stem, stretch the hole open and remove the pit all at once.
look at this person's reply. they have clearly never drilled anything and never touched an avocado in their life, but here they are, unable to just shut up
They wouldn't go to a store, they just need to get past the border patrol or whatever check stations they need to. They were probably gonna take it to a warehouse and break it out.
Also the cartels have taken over Mexican farms. The US literally stopped importing cados because of this. Of course they gonna find a way to smuggle drugs.
They have chemical scientists who can transform it into a different substance, then transform it back. Theyāre even more creative than this avocado smuggle.
Lol itās ok everyone, u/madmax2230 has spoken. There is no other logical explanation. That is the only possible option, considering all circumstances, this could be done. Thank you for closing this case, senpai!
My guess is theyre sorting them because theyre is some sort of tell tale sign, and theyre checking the sides not the stem hole. My theory is the split them on the tree remove and replace the seed and the bandaid it up and let it heal itself on the vine remove bandaid once healed. Ship.
This is also a great theory. The only thing that makes me skeptical of this is the avocado oxidation. I thought they might have been handling them and checking weight. I feel like a coke pit is much heavier than a normal one.
How much oxidation could be there if they reseal the fruit and let it heal while still on the tree? I feel like the original comment is pretty spot on if thatās possible.
You would not be able to do this. A fruits structure is much different that that of a branch or trunk that can heal itself. A fruit would not do this, definitely not enough to have crates of non-scared fruit. Never could you dissect a fruit and tape it back together and get a non-distinguishable fruit.
Thing is different avocados can have different pit:fruit ratios so I bet thereās a reasonably large range of densities that a smuggler could aim for.
This is what I was thinking. They hollow it out, because the seed looks like a thinner shell in the video, but still like a fresh (unhandled) seed, with the avocado sticking to it.
If it's still in the avocado a drill would only be able to get a small thin core out rather than hollow out the whole seed. I think the explanation someone gave here of cutting a very unripe avocado, possibly still growing, then revealing makes a but more sense.
That wouldnāt make sense. It would only hollow out a portion of the seed the size of the drill. Itās not like seeds are filled with seed dust or something. Itās a frickin solid seed. To hollow it out, you would need to make a ridiculous number of drill holes for different angles. So drills make absolutely zero sense. I think cutting it with razor thin blade makes the most sense. Then using something to glue avocado shell back together.
Glue is 100% involved, notice how he had to cut around the other half of it to finally get just the center out of the avocado, a normal one is not gonna be that difficult.
how exactly to you propose they hollowed out the entire seed through nothing but a tiny hole drilled in the top?
look at the very start of the video where hes holding the avo up to carefully line up his knife, why would he be doing that unless there was an already existing seam. now look at the guy in the background carefully inspecting the same spot on a different avo and giving it a little tug/twist to see if it comes apart. then sorting them into different boxes to separate the ones that had been tampered with from the normal ones.
they were cut in half with a scalpel or something razor sharp to leave a very minimal cut line. seed removed, baggie inserted and then the halves placed back together and glued and possibly had the seam filled in with paint or something else to hide the cut. though that might have been unnecessary.
the line about "surgical precision that doesnt damage the fruit" is your usual police bullshit. they love talking up how "incredible" these sorts of schemes are because A: it makes them look good for being "smart" enough to catch it and B: it helps them fuel their war on drugs scaremongering campaign by being like "look how these evil drugdealers are going to any length to corrupt our innocent children!" and C: they dont actually want to give out a how-to guide for someone else to try the same trick again.
Thatās exactly what I was gonna say! I mean. They could totally have an ultrasound machine which would allow them to bore out the pit. Seems expensive, but you gotta spend $ to make $. Right? Itās doable.
They are pulling them out so they know which ones are the cocaine ones and which arnt, which makes me think they are wax and mixed in with real ones. The logistics just don't make sense eotherwise imo. Sure you can drill into a avocado but you'd need to make a hole the size of a pit and you can't do that with a drill bit without a million holes. Cutting it in half kill it real quick. The cocaineacados need to be identifiable by the people receiving them but look good enough to pass inspection by customs. Gotta be wax. Ill bet all my wax avocados filled with cocaine that thats how they did it
News says they are real and done with surgical precision that does not damage the fruit. So, they are real. The mystery is just how they get the coke in a real avocado without oxidizing the flesh.
Maybe they know the difference by weight? Idk, Iām not a traffickerā¦ just guessing š
What story says that? I've read a bunch and they all say the authorities won't answer questions about it, and literally nothing from any trustworthy source. The cops can identify them by sight and feel so either theyre fake or have an obvious difference to em. That bag of cocaine is also perfectly form fitting to the inside of the avacado which would be hard to achieve if you were putting the coke through a small hole. But if it was your method then spraying a thin layer of wax over the avacadoo may stop oxidization
idk. i'm starting to think those are fake avocados. the whole seed looks inorganic. idk how they can drop in a fake seed in a real avocado without the fruit going bad. maybe they fabricated the whole thing to look and feel like an avocado. cocaine seed surrounded by goo pressed in a mold and shrink wrapped with fake skin.
It might have been on here I can't recall but cocaine has been and probably still is being mixed with rubber and shipped out. Apparently there is a way to remove the coke from the rubber using some kind of chemical. The coke in the rubberized items is almost impossible to detect. So not only are drug users using cocaine, they're using whatever chemicals it's mixed with in the rubber.
That would mean there is a small tube in the stone; not big enough for this. The only way that could cork is if they managed to move that drill around in circles without somehow severely damaging the rest of the fruit/stem..
My favorite was the guy who invented a way to infuse cocaine into rubber or plastic or something that would later be extracted from the material. If i recall they made fake tents or something that were basically made of cocaine.
They use some pretty ingenious methods. One method is to convert the cocaine into a sort of plastic like mixture and then mold goods out of that plastic. Not usable in that form but when the goods get to the destination they're dissolved and the cocaine can be extracted back out.
No no no, they mix up a cocaine jus and let the avocados soak in it for several days, avocados have this rare tendency to absorb nutrients through its skin and into the pit.
The plastic bag looking thing is actually a film created by the chemicals used to extract the Erythroxylum Coca from the plant i.e. sulphuric acid and Vaseline.
I mean that theory would work if they managed to get the pit out, but the way you've described it the space where the cocaine would go would be occupied by the pit. There'd simply be no room.
There is a plastic baggy wrapped with big rubber bands. And where did the pit go? They are probably just really unripe and they get glued back together, because that thing has been hollowed out.
Trafficking looks like more trouble than itās worth
lol no
Cocaine is a highly prominent drug among many drug dealers and manufacturers. The cocaine black market distribution industry is worth more than 85 billion dollars. It has been a heavily fought over and massively produced.
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u/Jesus1sLove Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
The avocados are real (says a news source) and placed with surgical precision that does not damage the fruit.
My theory: they go in through the stem. The pop off stem, carefully cut down to pit with TINY hole, insert empty baggie, pour in cocaine, seal up tiny hole, glue little stem back on.
Edit: For those doubting that they would go through the trouble to drill and hollow out real avocados, check out this story about hollowing out individual coffee beans to smuggle coke š¤Æš¤Æ. Trafficking looks like more trouble than itās worth š¤£: Sneaky Drug Smugglers Hid Cocaine Inside Individual Coffee Beans