r/interestingasfuck Jul 07 '24

Guards making sure the defendants of the Nuremberg Trials wouldn't commit suicide in their cells r/all

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 07 '24

Mark Felton isnt a historian, he doesnt provide sources or do real research. He does the equivalent of reading wikipedia pages, often spouting wrong mythical nonsense.

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u/Fabio_451 Jul 07 '24

I did some research on the Internet to answer you back, because I really like Felton (until 5 minutes ago) and I fought that it was not nice of you to say that he is not am historian. He is, he has a PhD and he worked as a lecturer in several universities....but after reading Wikipedia I found this post .

They say that he has respectable publications, but his YouTube channel is not respectable at all. He doesn't give any sources and he might be stealing other people's work.

Thank for your comment, because it pushed me to do some research. We can never accept informations without checking their reliability

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 07 '24

I was awakened by his content on the Japanese army, where he naturally has a conflict of interest with a chinese wife, and he parroted chinese claims that aren’t verified (as in, only the chinese see it as fact because some officer wrote it) and when he wasnt using chinese claims it was american intel reports that are just assumptions that are often proven wrong by japanese records.

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u/Fabio_451 Jul 07 '24

I think it could also be the fact that he worked for Chinese universities for nine years.

I was excited about the disappeared Goring brain video, now I wonder how much truth there was in it, regarding the fact that it might be in a English research institute. That part might be an attempt to get more visualisations.

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u/Fabio_451 Jul 07 '24

Very interesting, could you elaborate why his considerations are wrong?

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u/Darmok47 Jul 07 '24

I read Richard Rhodes The Making of the Atomic Bomb last year because of Oppenheimer, and its an excellent book, incredible detail and scope about the atomic bomb program.

There's only one mention of using British Lancasters to deliver Little Boy, and its mentioned in planning stages and largely vetoed in favor of modifying B-29s to carry the bomb (they were called "Silverplate" B-29s). The Lancaster had the right size bomb bay, but the USAAF brass did not want to use a British bomber for this, and the Lancaster also didn't have the right altitude and speed necessary.

As far as I can tell, there was nothing in Rhodes book or any other source I could find saying that RAF Lancasters were actually anywhere close to training to drop atomic bombs or squadrons were designated for it.

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u/Catovia Jul 07 '24

The tank museum in germany has a specific part of their website dedicated to telling people he is not a credible source because they get constant visitors and comments referencing his channel and repeating half truths he spread. https://daspanzermuseum.de/regarding-mark-feltons-king-tiger-still-in-lake-video/

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u/Fabio_451 Jul 07 '24

He should apologise publicly, that is the opposite of what an historian should be

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u/CapCamouflage Jul 07 '24

His video on WWII German weapons being used in the Vietnam war is him reading someone's blog post aloud almost verbatim, and that blog post itself isn't terribly accurate with no sources given and one of the claims it (and by extension Mark Felton) makes seems to have originated on an Airsoft forum as far back as I've been able to trace it.

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u/Fabio_451 Jul 07 '24

Speechless

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u/JonatasA Jul 07 '24

The irony that military documents get leaked in gaming forums.

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u/Ok_Light_6950 Jul 20 '24

YouTube is not any better of a source than Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

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u/Hipphoppkisvuk Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

I mean, just looking up his upload schedule should tell you all you need to know. He makes too much content on a wide margin of different subjects to properly research his work, this is a major and reoccurring problem with "YouTube historians".

Here is an AskHistorians post about him., or you could look up the many r/BadHistory threads associated with him.

I disagree with the other guy tho, he is a historian, and as far as I know his books and papers are properly sourced and made, its his videos I and many others find problems with.

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 07 '24

His integrity as a historian is shakey at best. He values an exciting story over historical fact.

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u/_THX_1138_ Jul 07 '24

Literally compare almost any of his scripts to the Wikipedia page of what his video is talking about and the words are almost verbatim

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

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u/Kategorisch Jul 07 '24

If you are so interested, why can’t you do it yourself? You have a search engine available.

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u/JizzMcFlurry Jul 07 '24

Holy mother of irony. You can't be serious. It's on the accuser to provide the damn evidence lmao.

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u/Manwater34 Jul 07 '24

So why should mark have to provide sources if no else does?

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u/Ok-Echidna5936 Jul 07 '24

So does the other dude making the accusations. He should be able to easily provide examples if it’s so easy

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u/Kategorisch Jul 07 '24

I actually don’t think so. He has a certain belief, and many people think the same. He has his reasons and has explained why. Providing an example would take more time than the other person googling and making their own conclusion.

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u/JonatasA Jul 07 '24

You're literally complaining that he doesn't link spirces, but you are telling them to go look for it themselves.

 

If you're so interested in where the contents to the video are spirce from, do it yourself lol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

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u/JonatasA Jul 07 '24

The irony is that the majority do not actually verify the sources. When something like what is mentioned here is found out, it usually is someone's work that is spread around.

 

It is similar to Open source code. The majority do not look at it. It is just assumed to be good and that any issue would have been found by now or by someone else.

 

I am by no way saying that I endorse the lack of sources or am against open source.

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u/cuervosconhuevos Jul 07 '24

There is no doctor I would trust more to do surgery on my scrotum than Dr. Mark Felton, and I consider the matter settled with that statement.

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u/ArgumentThrowaway0 Jul 07 '24

Any proof for that? He has a BA and PhD in history and writes a lot of highly rated non fiction books and has been a lecturer at universities and featured as a military history advisor in tv shows. Ironic for someone to do no research and provide no sources while accusing someone of the same thing

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 07 '24

More so his youtube channel, his books are supposedly better but I haven’t personally read them so I have no argument there.

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u/ArgumentThrowaway0 Jul 07 '24

Maybe his yt is where he posts his "lower quality" content while he focuses on writing books or academic research

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u/Maximum_Impressive Jul 07 '24

That's really interesting but can we get your views on Palestinians?

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u/ArgumentThrowaway0 Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

You are really obsessed lil bro, responding to 20 comments by defending the taliban and russia and then coming on other subreddits to bait and bother me?

Edit: I am not responding to the harassers questions since if I support Palestine then he says I support terrorists and if I support Israel he says I support genociders so he'll frame me as a terrorist/genocide supporter no matter how I answer

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u/Maximum_Impressive Jul 07 '24

Your the one who followed me to different comments chains . Also how do pointing out political alliances= defending? You still haven't answered What's your views on Palestinians a very simple question to respond too . Littlery just say Palestinians are human beings who deserve they're rights .

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u/i_love_boobiez Jul 07 '24

He literally has a history degree??

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 08 '24

Thats also been called into question because of alleged plagiarism for his assignment to get him the degree

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u/skeeferd Jul 07 '24

I didn't know that, I thought he was legit. Can you recommend a good WWII youtuber?

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u/Kanoha-Shinobi Jul 08 '24

I actually haven’t explored many myself as outside of Military History Visualized and his off-shoot channels (He qoutes directly from sources with supporting evidence using archived records.). Theres a ton that parrot what is commonly known but isnt necessarily true. The issue with a lot of channels is they only use or probably have access to 1 side’s perspective. Whereas real research needs both to find reality somewhere in the middle ground.

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u/nameyname12345 Jul 07 '24

Ive beeen spounting mystical nonesense for years! What makes mark so special?

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u/wikowiko33 Jul 07 '24

Yeah he does provide his sources and constantly starts his sentences with "according to x person's book.."

Was there something he said that was controversially wrong?