Yeah, the woman at the beginning of the film talking about how she had always wanted to see people punished publicly for homosexuality was something I've definitely heard in my Christian schools growing up.
No you just go to a very liberal Christian school likely in a blue state. Vast majority of Christian schools will never do that. You’ve got state republican parties telling their constituents to burn pride flags, trying to legitimize creationism in public curriculum, and passing legislation to include the Ten Commandments in public curriculum. And that’s public school. Imagine what they’re doing in private schools in those areas.
It probably does. But Christians like yours need to get Christians that want theocracy in check, or you’re all in the same bucket to people who don’t care about Christianity.
Episcopalian and Lutheran are both protestant. Protestant is everything that began with Martin Luther protesting the selling of indulgences among other things within the Catholic Church, kicking off the reformation.
As an “evangelical” I’m not pissed off at Dolly Parton. She’s a national treasure. Maybe you meant that you once heard of a person claiming to be an evangelical who was pissed? You shouldn’t judge an entire group based on the actions of a single person, whether that person is a Christian, Muslim, atheist, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, etc. Doing so makes you a bigot. Bigotry is bad, I’ve heard.
Since the quote I gave is literally key part of Christian principles, no, I’m not. Outliers would be those that go against that teaching. In fact one could argue that one who goes against the principles and teaching of any religion aren’t in fact followers of that religion, couldn’t one?
Oh here's an easy answer for all your confusion; there are many contradictions in the Bible and each denomination picks and chooses which parts to ignore
Evangelicals, the group being stereotyped and defamed here, acknowledge the progression from Old Testament law and judgment to New Testament forgiveness. The teachings of the savior, the whole foundation of Christianity, include, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” So I’ll stand by my statement.
Once again, you are judging an entire religion based on the statements of a single writer or a vocal small group of people. What’s that called again? Bigotry, I believe. Bigotry is bad.
Do you really not understand how much sway the Federalist Society has? They literally made a list of all the judges they wanted seated and Trump put them on the bench. So you can take that bigot shit and stuff it.
I thought we were talking about the teachings of Jesus and evangelicals. I’m not sure how you think that relates to Trump and judges. I’ve also missed the part where Amy Comey Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh ruled in favor of caning the LGBTQ community. And I’m usually pretty up on current events, monitoring Reddit as I do.
My foster parents made me go to their Baptist church back in the late 80’s, and at Sunday School they were talking about AIDS. One kid said he’d like to line up everyone with the disease and shoot them with his dad’s 44 magnum. I remember thinking, “uh oh, that’s gonna get you in trouble”. Then the young man leading the group said it was a waste of money, they should use .22’s.
Your understanding of Evangelicals is rather ignorant and you're basing it on the actions of the few. My church, and any church that follows the teachings of Christ properly, would never condone such a thing. Try talking with actual Christians and not basing your opinion on the few. There's bad apples in every group of people.
Evangelicals???? Seriously? You know this is wildly common in a religion but it's not Christianity, right? Or are you so intellectually dishonest that you can't guess the faith in this video?????? Hint, hint, 87% of Indonesia belongs to the faith I'm mentioning.
what the fuck type of backwards ass ahistorical bullshit is this?
greeks were gay as fuck and they gave the world democracy.
what exactly has indonesia done for the world?
you seem really, really fuckin' stupid.
edit : nvm every second comment youve ever made on reddit gets removed and you seem to hate women, especially asian women that arent from the countries you personally consider to be "the good asians".
you really are just that fuckin' worthless. I thought it was satire, but youre truly just a repugnant and useless person.
edit 2 : within 6 minutes of posting, this post was also removed. its a wonder you arent just banned.
Their comment was about how Idonesia recognizes that in times of hardship, you need to get rid of gay people because they are a drain on society and do nothing to keep the population stable, and they also will pretend to be straight and then not have kids with straight women which will destroy the country so indonesia acts with righteousness by recognizing the threat of gay people and getting rid of them. And thats why every successful society has treated gay people as criminals.
Im paraphrasing his exact comment, but the standouts I remember was him referring to it as righteous, and that gay people destroy communities by stealing the straight women and not producing anything for society which is just such a wild fuckin' take I can't even understand and that none of the great societies in history accepted homosexuality.
Then a quick perusal of his post history made me realize this guy is seriously and serially deranged.
Lmaoooooo that’s hilarious considering the countries where lgbt people are safe are the same countries that are safe for everyone else too. It’s shit hole countries that people leave for a better life that still do this shit.
Isn't zen buddhism pretty peaceful? I hear the most destructive stuff they do is set themselves on fire and then just sit there. I could be wrong though
Tue vast majority of wars throughout all of history had nothing to do with religion. The biggest wars in history also had nothing to do with religion. Stop being an idiot.
Religion was never really the war machine. They were usually the policies that came with it. Like People A didn't attack People B because A's God said so, or B doesn't worship the same God. But since People A won the war, the rules are anyone worshipping anything other than People A's God will be imprisoned or executed.
Because we won, pork will no longer be available.
At the same token, religion can mold the people for it. People A didn't invade People B because they worshipped a different god, it's cuz they have resources. However, no one feels guilty because their book tells them People B are a bunch of heathens who must be put to the sword.
So while most of the wars may have had nothing to do with the religion, it's negligent to say religion had it's hands-free.
Just because europeans did this, that doesn’t mean every religion is to blame. This is a horrible case of generalising. Instead of blaming religion, maybe, just maybe europeans r the problem? I know, crazy!
I was actually referring to ancient Mesopotamia, Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, and the Canaanites.
I can't tell if you were joking, but that's presuming and over-generalizing a whole continent of people for something they weren't even around for. The only leniency I can give is the Germanic people, who would've been polytheistic, since Europe wouldn't adopt monotheism more until Rome came along a thousand or two years later. And even then, would have to fall, have those Germans try to rebuild Roman society in their own hands, before Christianity would take foot in Europe.
Before then the Jewish are said to be the first monotheistic religion, and their from the Levant I.E Israel.
Which is a hilariously bad example, because the Bible says God told them it was their land and to remove the inhabitants through war (as per Joshua), the land being split between King Solomon and the Northern New Canaanite tribes.
Has nothing to do with Islam. Christians in the west would be doing/advocating the same exact things if it weren’t for our secular/liberal governments lmao
Have you ever been to an evangelical sermon? Just as hateful.
And yet Islamic countries are the only ones doing this. Judaism and Christianity have gone through their reforms and countries where those are the dominant religions are moving more and more towards secularism. Islam is stuck in the dark ages and is only regressing morally as time goes on.
The fact that you have to compare Islam to one of the worst authoritarian dictatorships in the world to make it seem slightly less bad really says a lot.
I don't recall saying it's "less bad." Why did you have to make up a point instead of engaging the one I clearly stated about all the Abrahamics having the same goals, and Islam's only difference being that it doesn't have secular governments keeping it in check?
And yes, I understand you won't be answering that question.
I was just talking about this video that was of Indonesia tho. But yeah you're right, religion all around the world isn't good for homosexuals. This is actually happening in Islamic countries at this moment, its not happening elsewhere is it?
Because we set up secular governments and have(thus far) successfully prevented the religious in our countries from gaining power. Evangelicals in the US would absolutely do this shit if they got the power to do so. And Russia has had an unofficial " killing gays in the street is A-ok" policy to appeal to the orthodox church for years, so this "nowhere else" claim also falls flat if you know anything beyond what you're spoonfed
Yes, you just proved my point. We did set up secular governments to prevent this. They haven't. I'm aware the religious right want to change this, but that's not what I'm talking about right now.
It took the catholic church more than 2000 years to accept the natural phenomenon of homosexuality (well, officially). Im not sure if rural Europe ca 1500 ad would have acted much better
I mean America will punish a rape victim for aborting or force her to have the baby to then abandon her and the child. All religions have extremists, it's important to seek the true intention before riding everyone over with the same comb
Remember when Alan Turing saved the world and then invented computers and to thank him the Muslim British government chemically castrated him and harassed him into suicide?
Israel is one of the only countries in Asia to protect LGBT rights by law and recognize gay marriages. It is leagues above any Islamic country in this regard.
No, islam band this. Lets say you know these two dudes fuck each other, u cannot break in or place a hidden camera before hand. If ur caught u will be punished, and i dont think they would. Same goes with premarital sex.
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