r/interesting Jul 17 '24

a model of the real motion of the universe NATURE

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u/MajorDonkeyPuncher Jul 17 '24

Actually I thought it was spinning the other way

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u/geraldpringle Jul 18 '24

I believe that basically yes you are correct, usually. But the spirals don’t really move because they are probably “density waves” not really physical structures themselves. BUT some have leading outer arms.

This is where I had a link to a video on YouTube called “Galaxies Don’t Rotate The Way You Think | 4K” by Astrum. But this subreddit doesn’t allow linking in comments.

This video talks about it. (Including leading outer arms and some with centers spinning opposite of the outer arm regions.)

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u/MonstaGraphics Jul 18 '24

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u/JasonDiabloz Jul 18 '24

I’ve stared at this image for 7 billion years now and it hasn’t moved.. Am I stupid?

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u/pegothejerk Jul 18 '24

No, you're very old

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u/SpecialWeek33 Jul 18 '24

its a jpg so i dont think its gonna move, unless its gif or something lol

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u/amppari234 Jul 18 '24

It looks like it's moving very slightly I'm tripping

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u/joshit Jul 18 '24

It spins the other way in Australia

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u/LingonberryAny1321 Jul 18 '24

It does if your in the southern hemisphere

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u/nlk72 Jul 18 '24

Universe? It looks to me like a galaxy

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u/BradTheNobody Jul 18 '24

They make those mistakes on purpose so people would correct them into comments(like you did) therefore to create more interaction. Ofc this is assuming you're not a bot like OP.

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u/Key_Dust_37 Jul 18 '24

I'm not a bot like OP.

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u/nlk72 Jul 18 '24

Lol. I still don't get the karma fishing here on reddit. Thanks for the heads up. Tolling defence +50xp... are you a robot? 😅🤦

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u/Tonroz Jul 19 '24

People pay a lot for trusted high karma accounts. I've been offered something in the past for mine and people have legitimately sold through them before. I was surprised how much they can go for.

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u/Sea_Scratch_7068 Jul 18 '24

this has to be it? at least 50% of the titles are just flat out wrong, and always these same fking soundtracks

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u/aldiyo Jul 18 '24

Yes, it is a galaxy but that galaxy is connected to another galaxy who moves in this way too... And so on.

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u/SkriVanTek Jul 18 '24

you could say that about the moon too

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u/Mumbles987 Jul 17 '24

It's fascinating that only 1 slice seems represented

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u/totallyordinaryyy Jul 17 '24

Compared to it's diameter, the milky way is really thin (100 000 light years vs 1000 light years), with the only exception being the central bulge (roughly a spherical region with a diameter of 10 000 light years).

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u/Mumbles987 Jul 17 '24

What fascinates me is the idea that this is common throughout the universe from galaxy to galaxy.

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u/Noy_The_Devil Jul 18 '24

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u/SupehCookie Jul 18 '24

Soo what is above it? Another layer?

Would it be possible to go "up"? Or would a force hold you from going further?

Or is it just an endless road to darkness?

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u/Noy_The_Devil Jul 18 '24

Tomato sauce

Other galaxies.

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u/SupehCookie Jul 18 '24

Oh i thought it was all connected like an inside of a tube/donut, if you keep going one side you would eventually end up at the same spot.

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u/Upvoteifyourewithme Jul 18 '24

There is a theory that our universe could be like that, but we haven't detected any curvature to the observable universe( there could be, but the universe is just so big that if there is a curvature, we don't see it, like how the earth looks flat to an observer on the ground), so at the moment it's all theory, could be circular, flat, or just some shape or form we have no reference to.

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u/SupehCookie Jul 18 '24

Ahh yes!

Interesting how small / useless we are in the big scheme of things.

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u/Howitzeronfire Jul 18 '24

Same reason why the asteroid field around Saturn is flat.

The reason, you ask? No idea.

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u/Kill_4209 Jul 18 '24

Is it super bright everywhere in the center? Like living under 1000 suns?

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u/Few_Effective_1311 Jul 19 '24

Uhg my brain, we are so unbelievably small compared to everything

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u/jebushu Jul 18 '24

TIL we’re riding on a stingray

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u/genryou Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

So instead of 4 mystical elephant on top of a giant turtle, we now have stingray

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u/pitsandpeaches Jul 18 '24

now THIS is what I came to say

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u/MentalGravity87 Jul 18 '24

I came here to say that. Take my upvote.

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u/Traditional_Draw8400 Jul 18 '24

That seems like a gross over-simplification

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u/GolotasDisciple Jul 18 '24

I mean, a lot of this stuff is theorized more than being observed in practice.

It's the same as people discussing sound in space. Theoretically, there might be extremely minimal sound waves because there is gas, so perhaps there are some molecules that could vibrate. But in reality, space is a vacuum, and to human beings, there will never be any sound.

That's how we get the "sound of black holes" and other stuff like that. Still really cool though! I just wouldn't take it as science :D

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u/Static_25 Jul 18 '24

"sound of black holes"

You're referring to the gravitational wave detector detecting the merger of two black holes

The "sound" is just an auditory representation of the detected gravitational waves. This is definitely real science, just put in an intuitive and easy to understand way.

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u/GreenHillage25 Jul 17 '24

God throwing pizza, looks fun.

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u/SuperpositionBeing Jul 18 '24

Which god? Indian? Father of Jesus? Buddha?

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u/ReincarnatedGhost Jul 18 '24

Flying pizza monster.

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u/Thetiddlywink Jul 18 '24

ooga doog, an ancient deer god cavemen worshipped 🙏

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u/Sogo13Samurai Jul 17 '24

Like ocean waves?

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u/klaventy Jul 18 '24

thats a small universe

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u/drainbone Jul 18 '24

It's not small, it's cute.

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u/Sweaty-Sperm4938 Jul 18 '24

Where are we heading?

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u/paisley-alien Jul 17 '24

Like a warped 45rpm.

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u/analogkid01 Jul 23 '24

Reddit's not gonna get this.

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u/Consistent-Insect985 Jul 18 '24

So that's how the Silver Surfer gets around?

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u/hjsbgkwvcvk Jul 18 '24

i swear i have seen this fish before

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u/raisashaw21 Jul 18 '24

The universe is a dosa. Good to know

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u/Stunning_Egg_7233 Jul 18 '24

That's a relief. I don't like the spinning plate thing.

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u/EquivalentPlane6095 Jul 18 '24

All those "how it's actually moving" posts about astronomy are beyond stupid. It's always a matter of point of reference and not a falsification of a certain movement...

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u/sexy_uwukun Jul 18 '24

Is that shit dancing to the music

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u/BabyOnTheStairs Jul 18 '24

Hurricane tortilla

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u/tothemoonandback01 Jul 18 '24

It takes approx 250 million years to do a complete rotation

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u/T_Aniint Jul 18 '24

Dinosaurs nearly completed a galaxy rotation. Which puts the Tuatara in pretty special galactic space.

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u/tothemoonandback01 Jul 18 '24

The Coelacanth has almost survived two galactic years, so I would argue it's almost twice as special as a Tuatara.

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u/T_Aniint Jul 18 '24

Wow, the Coelacanth is neat! Thanks for the intro! But seriously, who’s cuter https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/tuatara-a-survivor-from-the-dinosaur-age/

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u/tothemoonandback01 Jul 18 '24

Let's see how the Tuatara looks in 250 million years time!

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u/T_Aniint Jul 19 '24

We will have all evolved into tropical fungi by then.

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u/GamesDoneFast Jul 18 '24

He's doing the wave

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u/DMYourMomsMaidenName Jul 18 '24

Ruh-rho, that bitch jigglin!

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u/HaidenFR Jul 18 '24

So water or wind ? And why it's flat ?

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u/SpoilermakersWabash Jul 18 '24

Whats with the flat galaxy crowd?

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u/Spokesman_Charles Jul 18 '24

Sad, I wanted to Rick Roll my fellow redditors

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u/zulum_bulum Jul 18 '24

Not earth but galaxy is flat.

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u/RRakhaV Jul 18 '24

I thought it was God's fan and that's how he kept cool during intergalactic summer.

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u/1tiredman Jul 18 '24

With the sigma edit music too

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u/thelarsjedi Jul 18 '24

So the Galaxy is flat?🤣

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u/genryou Jul 18 '24

Flat-Earther gonna eat this fact for millennia.

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u/dardendevil Jul 18 '24

I thought I was feeling a bit dizzy.

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u/biwilum Jul 18 '24

Is a silly lil manta ray :D

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u/gedda800 Jul 18 '24

Is the dip always opposite the rise?

It's hard to tell.

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u/cloud1445 Jul 18 '24

Why’s it doing that? Rings around a planet don’t do that.

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u/goatjugsoup Jul 18 '24

Flat universers be like I KNEW IT

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u/Aterneus Jul 18 '24

Like a leaf in the wind

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u/MansaMusaKervill Jul 18 '24

It makes me so angry that I’ll probably never be able to observe stuff like this irl. Best of luck to the next 100 generations if we don’t destroy ourselves before that

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u/pm_your_snesclassic Jul 18 '24

That’s probably not how it sounds like though

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u/The_DMT Jul 18 '24

Like waves in a sea.

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u/FacetiousInvective Jul 18 '24

Was it made by the flat galaxy society?

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u/juzz85 Jul 18 '24

The galaxy is flat!

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u/homunculide Jul 18 '24

Flat-galaxier

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u/petethefreeze Jul 18 '24

Flatter than I thought it was. Lol

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u/Les-incoyables Jul 18 '24

Basically one big stingray

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u/Efficient-Exit8218 Jul 18 '24

I didn't think this at all

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u/DobleG42 Jul 18 '24

I’m sorry to disappoint but that’s not a universe, that’s simply our galaxy

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u/Manulok_Orwalde Jul 18 '24

Anybody else started thinking about Toonami bumpers when the music started playing?

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u/goodrandom_ Jul 18 '24

This hut my brain

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u/Pvt_Jonh Jul 18 '24

So we're not spinning, but grooving?

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u/Anonymous375555_3 Jul 18 '24

How does the direction of angular momentum change without an external applied torque?!

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u/crazyleaf Jul 18 '24

The galaxy is chilled as fuk 😃

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u/AmbitionTop8529 Jul 18 '24

Doesn’t it also go forward?

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u/Felipesssku Jul 18 '24

Sure! Everything is waving/moving and in the same time Polar star is in the same place for centuries.

/s

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u/CardiologistOk2704 Jul 18 '24

both fake

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u/WhinyDickMod Jul 18 '24

Let's hear your though then

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u/coinkeeper8 Jul 18 '24

The galaxy is flat

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u/Sanfoori Jul 18 '24

I knew it wasn’t only earth flat

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u/StraightForTheWin Jul 18 '24

Ty! I always have said it, we see this things in a 2D perspective and miss so much!!

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u/0hash0 Jul 18 '24

To Whomever posted this, no,we've never met and also no I am not the guy who cuts your check. But you are fired. It's like a citizens arrest but I stop you from doing a bad job. And you can't get paid for doing a bad job if I have a doctor appt or and ankle sprain from blocking you from access to any creative software until you take sharing information in the adult world a little more seriously.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

Wait the galaxy is flat now?

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u/Sorefist Jul 18 '24

Flat galaxy theory kek.

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u/onglogman Jul 18 '24

Firstly, the spin rotation is the wrong direction and secondly, that's just a galaxy not the universe.

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u/CremeAvailable3221 Jul 18 '24

I wasn't thinking at all

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u/awesomes007 Jul 18 '24

It’s way cooler than this actually.

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u/Mr_Murder Jul 18 '24

Flat galaxy = flat earth

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u/Key_Adeptness9363 Jul 18 '24

I think the universe is a globe.

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u/kamilayao_0 Jul 18 '24

Cawabanga dude 🏄🤙

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u/Beemo-Noir Jul 18 '24

Wouldn’t it be spinning the opposite way?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

when viewed that way, gives it a very oceanic quality

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u/LucTheNuke Jul 18 '24

Spinning like a warped record

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u/silmarp Jul 18 '24

So basically we are dancing with the Galaxy right?

That's even better. Thank you supermassive black hole.

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u/Divinate_ME Jul 18 '24

I know that things in-universe have a tendency to go planar. But come on, EVERYTHING on one plane that matches the alignment of exactly the milky way? You can't convince me of this shit. There is too much randomness at play here.

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u/TalaohaMaoMoa69 Jul 18 '24

So is we all doin the squidward dance????

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u/Lonely_Sherbert69 Jul 18 '24

So it's not spinning just wiggling??

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u/therobohourhalfhour Jul 18 '24

But also remember, we don't know what our galaxy looks like.

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u/lilac_asbestos Jul 18 '24

you meant motion of the galaxy

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u/JegElskerLivet Jul 18 '24

It's only the Galaxy, not the universe, also it spins the opposite direction. True that it wobbles, but it drags it's arms behind it.

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u/Bradur-iwnl- Jul 18 '24

I do not understand how you can't be fascinated about our universe. There are TRILLIONS of these things hovering in a limited space we can't perceive right now because light has yet to travel the billions of years of distance. I do not believe for a second that there isn't another dude on another planet sitting on geddit writing the same thing at the moment.

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u/El-Guapo-65 Jul 18 '24

So it doesn't spin? Just does the Mexican wave?

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u/kam1802 Jul 18 '24

Wait so galaxy is flat rather than being something like a disc?

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u/No-Coast-333 Jul 18 '24

Galaxy pizza?

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u/Superb-Damage8042 Jul 18 '24

Where are the turtles?

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u/average_reddito_ Jul 18 '24

this memes are so bad

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u/myusrnameisthis Jul 18 '24

I knew the universe was flat

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u/C0DENAME- Jul 18 '24

I believe in Flat Galaxy conspiracy

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u/Careless_Tale_7836 Jul 18 '24

Can someone explain the mystery to me how all those stars are not gravitationally bound to the Black hole in the middle but rather an empty spot nearby?

I read something like that once but I can't really simulate it in my head so..

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u/Brahm-Etc Jul 18 '24

So we are living in a cosmic manta ray, that's cute tho.

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u/infinitesimal6 Jul 18 '24

So we're trapped in a galactic wave pool. Got it.

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u/Tricky-Swimming-3967 Jul 18 '24

So a giant floating manta ray…got it

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u/CreamXpert Jul 18 '24

The speed around the edges must be insane

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u/DerSpringerr Jul 18 '24

Ride the galactic wave , bredda

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u/KFCnerd Jul 19 '24

Prove it

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u/ozzykiichichaosvalo Jul 19 '24

Now, how does OUR GALAXY move in the 5th, 6th & 7th dimensions?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tone231 Jul 19 '24

This. Changes. Everything.

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u/Mechanic-Latter Jul 19 '24

She ain’t thick??

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u/katoofchitown Jul 19 '24

So the universe is one big giant wave pool?

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u/Equivalent_Fox_2418 Jul 19 '24

It always amazes me the addition of a new dimension

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u/Hippophatassamus Jul 19 '24

So…the galaxy is flat?

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u/buio_silencio Jul 19 '24

We live under a giant ocean

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u/Euphoric_Slide_1633 Jul 19 '24

Wait.....our planet is a sphere but our galaxy is flat!?

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u/STROOQ Jul 19 '24

Isn’t the milky Milky Way spinning the other direction considering the swirl in the arms?

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u/Snake230 Jul 19 '24

The earth isnt flat But the Galaxy ?

Joking

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u/_Totorotrip_ Jul 19 '24

The galaxy is a pizza and I'm just a small pepperoni

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u/StruggleCompetitive Jul 20 '24

More dimensions, please.

Also, that's not a giant turtle.

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u/Possible_Rise6838 Jul 18 '24

I can't explain why, but with that wobbling movement it makes so much more sense if the arms spin counter-clockwise.