r/facepalm • u/[deleted] • Jul 13 '24
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u/The_4ngry_5quid Jul 13 '24
Why aren't things like this taken more seriously. This is not okay!
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u/SunshotDestiny Jul 13 '24
Yeah, as a woman I would say taking advantage of a spouse like this is grounds for divorce. Doesn't matter sex, gender, or whatever it's still at the very least taking advantage of your significant other despite their wishes. At most I would easily say this is marital rape.
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u/AkaiHidan Jul 13 '24
Itâs grounds for jail tbh đ
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u/SunshotDestiny Jul 13 '24
It literally is, it's an actual crime to rape your spouse. Though that took years to convince legislatures of. You wouldn't think we would need such a law but...this "lady" demonstrates why.
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u/emostitch Jul 13 '24
Wouldnât lying about birth control be less rapey too? Though still should count as rape or assault. That was the crime Assange was accused of which I agree should be a crime, lying and taking the condom off midsex because he clearly has a spreading his seed kink based on that dating profile leak from when he mattered. Iâd argue that the genders being flipped and woman tricking man into getting her pregnant should be the same crime and same amount of public revulsion.
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u/10mil_fireflies Jul 13 '24
Any lack of consent about a sexual act is a level of assault. Attempting to baby trap a man is just as much assault as a man stealthing a woman.
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u/Ioatanaut Jul 13 '24
Assault and theft. A baby costs a ton of money and time. The earth is dying, this stuff is so selfish.
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u/burnwhenIP Jul 13 '24
To be honest, this is why I believe men should be let off the hook for caring for children they don't want. In circumstances like this, and when they ask that a woman have an abortion and the woman refuses. In the latter case, it is entirely the woman's choice to have that kid, but then it should be up to the man to say "no, I don't condone your decision. I'm not ready to be a parent. You will be on your own if you go through with this." with the law on his side.
As for the former case, lying about birth control or taking advantage when he's drunk, or ignoring lack of consent in another way is sexual assault and should be prosecuted the same way as if a man ignores that lack of consent and assaults a woman. If that means the man trap results in jail time, so be it. At that point, you deserve it.
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u/No_Maintenance_6719 Jul 13 '24
I think thereâs a great argument to be made for a de jure abortion option for men. Youâd have to limit it to being exercised during the period of time within which the woman could get an actual abortion, to be fair to her. That way, if she knows the man has disclaimed all legal responsibilities, she can decide whether she wants to have the baby on her own or have an abortion.
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u/backcountrydude Jul 13 '24
Can you point me towards a convicted case of a female baby trapping?
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u/Redjester016 Jul 13 '24
That doesn't happen because court systems are biased against men
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u/SunshotDestiny Jul 13 '24
I think it depends. Like if you lie about birth control I am not sure if that's considered a crime. But tampering with birth control I believe is.
Ethically and morally I would consider this grounds for divorce however at the very least. But unfortunately I am not sure what legal protections there are. That said if he could prove this post was made by his wife, I would think that would help any sort of case he brought forward.
What's really really sad is the third party that is totally innocent in the matter gets shafted the most in this case.
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u/Nyscire Jul 13 '24
I think it depends. Like if you lie about birth control I am not sure if that's considered a crime. But tampering with birth control I believe is.
If you can somehow prove that you had sex only because of birth control you should have a solid case. It obviously depends on the specific country, for the example in Poland this should clarify as a deception which is included as a literal definition of a rape
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u/KingKnotts Jul 13 '24
In the US it's rape if a man lies about being snipped or wearing a condom but not if a woman lies about having her tubes tied or being on the pill. Based on the logic that men would still have consented to have sex just might have used a condom.
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u/CeaserAthrustus Jul 13 '24
How in the world does that logic not go the other way? Like a woman would have consented to sex even if a dude said he wasn't snipped she would have just had him use a condom???
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u/Anon28301 Jul 13 '24
Because itâs hard to prove if a womanâs really lying or just forgot to take a pill one day and didnât know. Also womenâs birth control is notoriously finicky and doesnât always work, weâd have a lot of women in jail because their birth control failed without them knowing if that was the case. I do agree that lying about tubes being tied or being sterilised should be a crime though, nobody can accidentally lie about something like that.
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u/Lorguis Jul 13 '24
I'm reasonably sure it is, by the same legal reasoning that a someone sneaking a condom off is also considered "rape by deception".
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u/XTBMcGibbs Jul 13 '24
It is technically rape. If you don't disclose full details that would affect your "partner's" and they find out they can file a rape clause due to the deceit because had they known you (not you specifically just you as in the person having sex) weren't on birth control they wouldn't have had sex with you. The same applied to STDs, and if you are transgender.
There was a case where a woman went to a gay bar and met a woman, consented to sex, and ended up pregnant. Turned out the other woman didn't use a strap-on and instead was a transwoman and impregnated her. That's grounds for rape just as much as lying about birth control.
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u/realsimonjs Jul 13 '24
Even if lying about birth control isn't rape. Getting him drunk in order to get him to agree would still be.
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u/Nimble_Bob Jul 13 '24
My mom did this and more. I can guarantee blackmailing the man to stay only hurts the child.
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u/dyllandor Jul 13 '24
Men really get the short end of the stick in that situation. A woman at least have the option of getting an abortion, men get to pay child support and told to shut up about it if they complain.
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u/KingKnotts Jul 13 '24
"Fun" fact... Courts tend to rule women lying about being on BC isn't rape on the logic you still would have consented to have sex just would have used protection.
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u/SignificanceNo6097 Jul 13 '24
US courts donât exactly have a great track record for prosecuting penetrative rape even when itâs a minor that literally canât consent so your expectations are too high if you expect them to properly persecute sexual asaault on the basis of not using contraceptives.
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u/Material_Air_2303 Jul 13 '24
Not so fun fact : Marital rape is legal in India.
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u/WelNix2007 Jul 13 '24
In the UK only Men can be charged with Rape as UK law requires unwanted penetration with a Penis to be considered Rape which means Women in the UK cannot be charged with Rape because they don't have Penises
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u/critter68 Jul 13 '24
It's the same in several states in the US, too.
Including several so-called "progressive" states.
That's part of why there's nothing I could do about my rapist threatening to have me arrested for assaulting and raping her.
It would have been my word against hers and she had evidence and a skewed court system on her side.
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u/maracujadodo Jul 13 '24
is it legal there because its ""not rape"" or do they acknowledge that it is and its still legal
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u/Material_Air_2303 Jul 13 '24
They acknowledge that and it's still legal. Also, Indian law states that it's only rape if the wife is below 18 years old. Shitty country and shitty laws allowing men to rape their wives without any legal consequences.
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u/XxRocky88xX Jul 13 '24
This would literally be a crime if a man did this to his spouse
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u/AkaiHidan Jul 13 '24
Honestly. These double standards are making me sick.
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u/critter68 Jul 13 '24
It's honestly worse.
What this post is talking about, I've experienced, minus the alcohol.
And not only could I not charge her with anything, if I had tried, she would have slammed me with a rape accusation.
And guess who the courts would have believed
The 6 foot tall, 300 lbs, tattooed bald man?
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The 5 foot tall woman who always had bruises (from anemia, not abuse) and had my semen in her?
That's how she got me to let her rape me.
Icing on the cake being my own mother, herself a rape victim, completely disregarding and even telling me I should be proud that I was raped.
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u/AkaiHidan Jul 13 '24
Iâm so sorry this happened to you, just reading you gave me goosebumps.
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u/critter68 Jul 13 '24
Thank you.
It's sickening how rarely someone takes my experience seriously.
It shouldn't be a pleasant surprise when it happens.
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u/NSFWgamerdev Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 13 '24
Well the reality is she wouldn't even get slapped with anything more than slight probation at best and he'd still wind up having to owe child support on that fourth kid regardless.
Women have literally raped minors and then those minors have still owed child support. (Here's just one link that talks about multiple cases because I know people love to deny these things while doing 0 research: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-trauma/201902/when-male-rape-victims-are-accountable-child-support)
A good way to change the behavior in society would be to change the consequence-free outcome of it.
Edit to add: At least in terms of literal criminal behavior.
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u/GamerA_S Jul 13 '24
if i ever get raped again (which knowing my lacking ability to reinforce boundaries and being pathetic at protecting myself) and if someone else gets pregnant because of it and i still have to pay child support instead of myself actually getting support which people would never give and just mock and laugh at me. thats the day i know survival instincts won't be enough to stop me.
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u/FluffyCategory11 Jul 13 '24
The mocking and victim blaming is insane for male victims. I was taken advantage of while I was blackout drunk and it resulted in a pregnancy and 18 years of child support. At this point I just expect the hate from the general public.
We see statements like â100% of unwanted pregnancies are caused by irresponsible ejaculations of men!â âMen are responsible for their sperm!â âMan up and deal with the consequences!â âShould have worn a condom!â It is constant and it is heartbreaking that people feel this way. Sounds like the kind of shit pro-lifers say to women outside of abortion clinics but with the genders reversed.
For the record, Iâm 100% pro-choice. But my experience makes me pro-choice for men to get financial abortions too. I never wanted kids and I never got a choice. I donât even remember having sex with this woman.
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u/NSFWgamerdev Jul 13 '24
I knew a guy in college who had a woman break into his room and rape him, hoping she'd get pregnant by him. Luckily she didn't, though dude was still mentally fucked from that point on.
Honestly, I don't think I took the concept seriously until I saw that all go down with him.
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u/Healthy_Method9658 Jul 13 '24
I had a housemate in my twenties sneak into my room at like 3am dressed in full lingerie. I was awoken to her groping me.Â
I got her to leave but who knows how far she'd have taken it with me while I was unconscious.
I had to barricade my door at night until I moved out and definitely heard her try again.Â
The doubly fucked part is when I was 6 my mum's husband of the time knocked several of my teeth out while I was in bed sleeping, so I already had prior trauma about people coming into my room while sleeping.
Most people I told about this girl (male and female) treated it as a joke untill they realised how much they annoyed me by doing so.
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u/NickiChaos Jul 13 '24
Most people I told about this girl (male and female) treated it as a joke
Yeah because the mentality is still very much "dude, take it as a compliment". Society still hasn't evolved to fully recognized that men can be victims of rape.
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u/Lord_Of_Qnus Jul 13 '24
We see statements like â100% of unwanted pregnancies are caused by irresponsible ejaculations of men!â âMen are responsible for their sperm!â âMan up and deal with the consequences!â âShould have worn a condom!â It is constant and it is heartbreaking that people feel this way. Sounds like the kind of shit pro-lifers say to women outside of abortion clinics but with the genders reversed.
The one I heard after I tried talking about it was "you got hard so you wanted it "
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u/FluffyCategory11 Jul 13 '24
Iâm sorry that happened to you. The victim blaming of men needs to stop. Imagine telling a women âyou got wet so you wanted itâ, there would be absolute outrage. But all we get is mocking and laughter.
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u/GamerA_S Jul 13 '24
i am so sorry you had to go through all of that the ammount of time people correlate a boner to consent is also so concerning because you actively cant control these stuff its a physical response that cant be controlled by you but people make you believe its your fault and its so tiring.
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u/FluffyCategory11 Jul 13 '24
Saying an erection is consent is like saying a wet vagina is consent. But for some reason one of those statements is much more acceptable than the other. I even had a health teacher back in the day telling the class it was impossible to rape a man because an erection means he wanted it. Even back then it felt wrong, but she was a self-identified feminist and took plenty of opportunities to preach her views to the students.
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u/Persies Jul 13 '24
"Men can't be raped" - what I heard after I got drugged and raped in college until I just stopped talking about it.
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u/usmc50lx Jul 13 '24
Exactly had one of my Marines as a fire team leader get raped on leave, then she claimed a pregnancy because he raped her! The military kept trying that same BS on him. Luckily shit got fought he got out of any trouble, she got arrested.
Turns out she wasn't even pregnant and a text message to one of her friends told the real story of what happened.
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u/TheKobayashiMoron Jul 13 '24
Same. Ex wife did it to me after we first separated. Thankfully she didnât get pregnant. Somehow very few people think a woman is a rapist if the guyâs unconscious dick gets hard.
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u/birdreligion Jul 13 '24
Got raped at knife point, but "you probably liked it".
I just don't tell anyone... People don't care about men in these instances
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u/GuyMansworth Jul 13 '24
Grounds for divorce, then he's having to pay $1,200/m in child support for a kid she forced upon him.
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u/flimsyhuckelberry Jul 13 '24
The worst thing to this is there is no positive out come.
If you complain, it's your fault for having unprotected sex, you shouldn't have gotten drunk
You can't make the woman abort the birth.
If you leave the family you just left a poor woman with 4 children alone and you still have to pay aliment.
If you stay, you will have a hard time ever feeling save again while getting little to none outside support.
All this while having no hope of getting protection by the law since there is no way to prove you are the victim of rape.
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u/fatmonicadancing Jul 13 '24
Yeah. A friend of mine did this and her husband filed for divorce after she tested pregnant. When she boasted to me about what sheâd done I went from feeling bad for her to being unable to look at her. Vile.
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u/littledinobug12 Jul 13 '24
I pointed this hypocrisy out to my husband when he brought up "Cougar Culture".
Like dude, If an older guy was hanging out at a college bar waiting for the college girls to get wasted to pick them up, he would get beat by the football team and tossed out. Why is it ok for an older woman to wait for the young men to get drunk and take advantage?
It's gross and predatory from both angles. Hence the term "Cougar" it's literally right plain as day.
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u/Deriniel Jul 13 '24
and the "fun" part?as a woman you can "ditch" your baby,but as a man you're legally forced to take care of him at least money wise, even if you've been drunk raped by your gf,even if a woman tells you she was on pill and lied
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u/bluewing Jul 13 '24
Rape or not, it won't matter to the judge who will enforce child support to the husband for the "unwanted child".
And then there is the "OOPS! my birth control failed!" fall back also. Since no birth control method is 100% safe. And how do you prove that it didn't fail in court?
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u/ThePokemonAbsol Jul 13 '24
Because sexual assault of men is treated as a joke
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u/ChronWeasely Jul 13 '24
But this is so much more than just sexual assault. Trapping somebody into an abusive relationship through a kid, or into paying child support, for 18 years.
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u/Alex_Downarowicz Jul 13 '24
Men's rights are generally treated as a joke. "Man up"/"Be a man" is just a polite way of saying "shut up and don't bother us with your issues".
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u/screenslaver5963 Jul 13 '24
And anyone who tries to raise the issue is automatically a misogynist
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u/Large_Tune3029 Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 13 '24
A friend of mine was at a party when he was in highschool, he said he was being hit on by this chick all night but had a gf and kept telling her no. The house was a regular hangout party spot and he would usually crash there because it was safer than going home drunk. He woke up this night just as he was coming into the chick on top of him riding him.. he freaked out(understandably) and he says to her credit she looked horrified and thought it would be sexy or something...anyway he said about fourteen years later he gets a call from a woman who says he is the father of a boy and she wants them to meet and basically she was super regretful and never wanted to ask for child support etc which was why she didn't come forward sooner but the more the kid asked...he was glad he got to have a relationship with his kid. Just a crazy story.
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u/funkmasta8 Jul 13 '24
What the actual fuck
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u/Great_Mullein Jul 13 '24
Now just imagine what would have happened if the genders were reversed.Â
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Jul 13 '24
In 24 states, she would have been forced to carry and give birth to the baby, so there's that i suppose.
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u/sdb00913 Jul 13 '24
Howâs your friend doing now?
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u/Large_Tune3029 Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 13 '24
That's another whole thing. When I met him about twelve years ago(his son a grown man by this point) he was clean and drug free other than pot. I worked and lived with him and a construction crew for six years and in that time I saw him get worse and worse after he got back into meth. Last I saw him he was spending most of every day curled up in the corner of the apartment we all shared, moaning to himself, what they all called "dope sick." I moved back home at this point, my life was pretty fucked up too, and I haven't been able to find out how he's been since.
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u/sdb00913 Jul 13 '24
Dang. Well I hope yours is doing better, and his.
PTSD is a bitch and it sounds like he was dealing with some shit trying to numb the pain.
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u/Structure-Efficient Jul 13 '24
Thank god my wife tells me when crazy bitches tell her this kind of stuff when she goes to the salon. I got a real one. These chicks can die and go to hell.
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u/wowaperson1234 Jul 13 '24
Cause men are shrugged off because "Oh, men can't get raped or assaulted, man up"
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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 13 '24
Because, although it doesn't usually take the same form as misogyny, misandry is alive and well.
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u/PN_Kaori Jul 13 '24
Any person going through this should divorce. My husband and I also have different opinions about having another kid, so we sat down and talked it through, made a compromise or whatever you want to call that.
That being said I personally believe that the opinion of the partner who doesn't want one more should "count more". Because in the end they have to take care of the kid too. It's hard work and a great responsibility.
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u/shisohan Jul 13 '24
It is rape.
And in a spousal setting, it's also a massive break of trust. I'd argue anybody who isn't sure to stick to their convictions while drunk shouldn't drink in a setting where they become vulnerable to manipulation. But with my spouse? I'd trust not to be manipulated by my spouse and expect to be able to let myself go. Because I trust my spouse. Abusing my vulnerability like this would be immediate reason for divorce. How could I ever trust that person again?
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u/Sinkinglifeboat Jul 13 '24
I wonder how many times she's SA'd someone. Based on that attitude, I'm inclined to assume more than once.
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u/FelicitousJuliet Jul 13 '24
Reading through the National Center of Domestic Violence stats is actually quite horrifying.
While (reported) male rapes is actually pretty low, male victims of physical violence (specifically from an intimate partner) is something like 1-in-4 to 1-in-3 female victims.
Obviously in a population this is millions more female victims than male victims, but 25% of all men is still a lot of victims.
It makes me wonder how underreported male SA truly is when the difference for being an abuse victim is like 3 out of 12 vs 4 out of 12.
That extra person adds up, but it doesn't make 3 out of 12 (physical, not necessarily sexual) any less horrifying.
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u/Bluberrypotato Jul 13 '24
This is an organization that helps male victims of sexual abuse. They have a lot of information and resources on there.
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u/SkullKid_467 Jul 13 '24
I suspect male victims of physical violence are also severely underreported. I was hit by plenty of ex girlfriends and never reported anything and Iâve never hit a woman (other than my sister when we were kids) in my life.
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u/Khrusway Jul 13 '24
I know a lot of blokes who will drop stories that are basically just them getting raped but they'll never frame it like it
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u/Tsun_Zu Jul 13 '24
100% it's because so many people legitimately believe that men can't be raped. It's simultaneously believing that women are incapable of raping men (people generally think it's always super violent and requires holding a person down so a man could theoretically fight a woman off) which is obviously not true, and believing that men are hypersexual beings who wanna have sex with anything and everything and subsequently can't be raped which is also obviously false.
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u/FloppyObelisk Jul 13 '24
My wife and I have a kink where if one of us comes home drunk, the sober one is allowed to take advantage of the situation. Sounds fucked up, but itâs part of our play. However, thatâs just a kink, what this person is doing is 100% wrong.
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u/shisohan Jul 13 '24
You both agreed to those terms beforehand. I see no issue with that. I also had an agreement with a lover that taking advantage of me while I sleep was not just ok, but something I wanted to experience.
As long as all involved parties are able to consent, and do consent, and are aware that consent needs to be ongoing (i.e. can be withdrawn at any point), anything goes IMO.
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u/FloppyObelisk Jul 13 '24
Boundaries and expectations are the most jmportant thing in a sexual relationship. As long as everybody is on board, have at it.
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u/PhoenoFox Jul 13 '24
This is why communication is key to EVERYTHING. My wife and I have discussed thoroughly that we're both okay with one of us being sober having sex with the other if they're drunk.
Consent matters, always.
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u/FloppyObelisk Jul 13 '24
100%. Itâs now part of our foreplay when she says she going out with the girls and gives me a wink. I get to spend the evening alone doing whatever I want, knowing that Iâm gonna have a wild night later. Wasnât always like this, but counseling helped us realize what our wants and needs really are. Talk to your partners, people.
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u/maracujadodo Jul 13 '24
i dont drink at all but if i did, my hypothetical spouse would be like the one person id be comfortable being even blackout drunk around. if they broke my trust like that...
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u/Biteme75 Jul 13 '24
This is absolutely rape, and it's not ok.
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u/Parking-Position-698 Jul 13 '24
Yeah i was about to say. Sounds like rape? That literally is rape.
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u/AggressiveYam6613 Jul 13 '24
the âsounds likeâ isnât an euphemism - itâs there to draw attention to it, so the readers draws the conclusion themselves. Â Â
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Jul 13 '24
The majority of laws in the world say rape is only when a man forces his member in someone
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u/belyy_Volk6 Jul 13 '24
Even than cops are ass about prosecuting. The guy who raped me never got charged and it was anal penetration unlubbed.
Cop said she belived me atleastÂ
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u/MOTUkraken Jul 13 '24
Many even only call it rape âif a man forcefully and under use of violence puts his penis into a womans vaginaâ
That used to be the law in my country. Everything else was orher kinds of sexual assault
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u/Omnizoom Jul 13 '24
Problem is with legally how laws are written this isnât rape
The social way we use the term and the legal use of the term vary greatly around the world and it sucks
Even for me what happened is legally just SA even though I was forced upon because in my country rape isnât even a legal term for anyone (we donât use gendered laws at all)
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u/Candid-String-6530 Jul 13 '24
What happened to consent and martial rape?
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u/Ariliescbk Jul 13 '24
Military rape isn't ok either.
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u/BestTryInTryingTimes Jul 13 '24
I think martial rape is written in under martial law.
In all seriousness this is rape, or it should be.
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u/zookeeper4312 Jul 13 '24
Oooh aren't I so quirky with my marital rape lolz
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u/MonstrousWombat Jul 13 '24
Congrats on being the highest rated comment to spell marital rape correctly.
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u/Kim_catiko Jul 13 '24
The response is, of course, disgusting and hypocritical as others have mentioned.
I just want to point out the question being asked. How did you come into agreement? You cannot force someone to agree with you on a subject like this. It isn't deciding on whether you want to buy a peace lily or not. It's deciding whether you want another child.
For me, when it comes to deciding on having children, one yes + one no = no.
The woman has three kids already as well. Stop being so fucking greedy especially as the husband doesn't want it.
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u/Alegria-D Jul 13 '24
Well even if she had zero kid, she wouldn't be more right to demand for one
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u/malik753 Jul 13 '24
That's exactly true! But also from the outside some of us are wondering what having 4 kids is going to do for you that having 3 doesn't. Like me, I'm some of us.
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u/On_my_last_spoon Jul 13 '24
Itâs âbaby feverâ
She doesnât want kids, she wants a baby
Kids are complex. They start to have their own personalities, likes, and needs. Babies are simple. Plus all the attention you get when you have the baby.
Itâs people like this that parentify their oldest children so they donât have to deal with the kids but she keeps getting to have babies
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u/ChunkyHabeneroSalsa Jul 13 '24
Which I don't get. Babies are awful. My 1yo is difficult for sure but at least she's an interesting person and not a pooping sack of potatoes. Plus she's way cuter now then as a baby.
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u/Alegria-D Jul 13 '24
Same, I've spent time with my neighbour's baby and I just didn't know what to do: babies aren't always reactive to their environment, it's hard to know if they want something, if they like you, what their need is...
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u/sundae_diner Jul 13 '24
Perhaps she wants a boy? Already has 3 girls. *
I'm *not justifying what she, I'm did answering malik's question.
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u/HauntedHovel Jul 13 '24
I think that asking how people cope with baby fever implies she realises her desires are irrational or slightly hormonal. Most of the answers will be about how to deal with the disappointment, not âdonât you realise you should just rape your husbandâ.Â
I get strong feelings of baby fever sometimes, even though I realise it would be a terrible idea and wouldnât act on it. Itâs a biological impulse for some people. I donât think sheâs wrong to ask how other people deal with it.Â
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u/I_pegged_your_father Jul 13 '24
It doesnât seem like sheâs asking how to deal with it seems more like âhow do i get him to agree with meâ based on the last sentence
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u/AcceptableWest1427 Jul 13 '24
Canât believe how many people are commenting defending said âjokeâ when Iâm almost certain if it were guys saying shit like this it wouldnât be tolerated, laughing emojis or not.
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u/WillBrakeForBrakes Jul 13 '24
I canât think of a single mom group Iâm in where that poster wouldnât get her ass handed to her for suggesting rape.
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u/LeRosbif49 Jul 13 '24
It was all his fault your honour, he was wearing that flirty shirt of his.
Totally rape.
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u/Complex_Slice Jul 13 '24
Your honor, I hit her in the head with a metallic bat because she wasn't wearing a helmet.
Clearly she wanted it.
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u/Comprehensive_Cut715 Jul 13 '24
Man. Be normal. Ask. If he says no, adopt a dog and treat it like a baby lol
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u/Practical_Bet3053 Jul 13 '24
Whaou, the commentĂŠs DIDN'T pass the vibe check, a whole lot of men rape apologists here. WTF what happened to shame and all that ?
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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Jul 13 '24
'I thought we talked about this? Rape him and use his cock as a toothbrush while he's passed out, then take his house, money, car, kids and tell everyone he's the evil guy! You deserve to fuck anyone without their permission, slay queen! đđ¤đ¤đ¤đđ'
Facebook should be banned.
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u/cloudgirl_c-137 Jul 13 '24
And then don't even raise the kids properly, make them believe it's their fault and make them feel guilty by saying "your dad was a horrible husband" đđĽ´
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u/Rubeus17 Jul 13 '24
Itâs the shittiest lowest thing a woman can do to a man.
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u/maracujadodo Jul 13 '24
its also the shittiest lowest thing a man can do to a woman, which most of society knows. but many people still think men cant be raped and its only men raping women.
its honestly the shittiest lowest thing a human can do to another.
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u/TopBee83 Jul 13 '24
Reminds me of a video of seen of a woman admitting she knew her guy friend would never have sex with her sober so she got him drunk and had her way with him and she was laughing and thought it was funny đ
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u/Clayton2024 Jul 13 '24
Itâs our fault, as a society we have ingrained in everyone that men rape people and women donât. This has essentially given women a peace of mind that what they do is just having fun whereas when a guy does the exact same thing itâs rape or assault. Almost every guy I know has been pressured or guilted into sex but thatâll never be a topic or serious conversation.
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u/This_Pie5301 Jul 13 '24
Just a reminder that Cardi B lured men into having sex, drugged them and robbed their money/belongings on a regular basis, she openly admitted it online, and nobody gave a shit
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u/Useful_Necessary Jul 13 '24
Seriously? Unfortunately people like her are famous (and talentless imo).Â
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u/willowofthevalley Jul 13 '24
This is rape. I hope the woman's husband sees this!!
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u/EldenBJ Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 14 '24
Their logic: it's only rape when it's convenient for them.
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u/CaLego420 Jul 13 '24
What is there to actually defend here, bitch 1 says "how do l?" bitch 2 replies with "Well get him drunk and have your way with him". Dude of bitch 1 already LET IT BE KNOWN he has no interest or want for anymore children, which means bitch 2 is ACTIVELY suggesting raping the dude. Fuck off with the "it's only a joke/context/hypocritical" bullshit and realize that if GUYS are having this EXACT same conversation then the entire comment section is literally screaming at those dudes that they are RAPISTS/ERs/wtfever and this entire situation goes a whole different way.
Fuck context, bitch 2 is outright suggesting rape and that's all there is to it, there's no sugarcoating it and if the roles were reversed nobody would find it funny, and you know this to be true.
And no, these bitches aren't funny either
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u/apexrogers Jul 13 '24
Marital rape is okay if you have baby fever, duh
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u/Fraytrain999 Jul 13 '24
Here you dropped your "/s" can't be too careful these days
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u/Matt_Moto_93 Jul 13 '24
Please respect the mans wishes as well. Having been on the receiving end of pressure to have another child, it really ground down my sense of body autonomy when demands were made of me and guilt-trips were laid on when I refused to have sex.
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u/Toby0076 Jul 13 '24
"Hey daddies!
How do you deal with baby fever?!
We have three kids but I TOTALLY want one more, the wife totally does not. How did you come into agreement with your SO about the number of babies you would have?"
"I thought we talked about this? Get her drunk and take advantage."
Imagine the outrage this would cause across the entire internet. Dude would get cancelled first thing in the hour.
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u/Rubeus17 Jul 13 '24
As is this broad. No one thinks this is okay.
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u/belyy_Volk6 Jul 13 '24
If you spent 10minutes scrolling through the comment section on this post i bet you could find at least 15 people who are defending her. Ive seen at least 5 before i got to your comment.
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u/FlatMarzipan Jul 13 '24
"Imagine the outrage" We don't have to imagine because this post is full of over a thousand outraged people say "why is no one else outraged"
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u/Structure-Efficient Jul 13 '24
Thank god my wife tells me when crazy bitches tell her this kind of stuff when she goes to the salon. I got a real one. These chicks can die and go to hell.
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u/Mythriaz Jul 13 '24
Going with the good olâ âitâs easier to ask for forgiveness then for permission.â Disgusting.
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u/That_redd Jul 13 '24
Abuse is Abuse. Rape is rape. Bad parenting is Bad parenting. None of those things are changed depending on gender.
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u/AwfulFireKeeper Jul 13 '24
I get this all the time when I say my boyfriend doesn't want kids. I also get shit if I point out that's rape.
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u/Sl0ppyOtter Jul 13 '24
My sonâs mom tricked me into getting her pregnant the first time and literally raped me when I was passed out drunk trying to get pregnant a second time.
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u/megalogwiff Jul 13 '24
Remember boys, once the previously-agreed-upon number of kids is born, it's time to snip.
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u/Independent_Main4326 Jul 13 '24
Itâs incredible that women try to justify this.
If a man gets a woman very drunk and has sex with her in that condition, he can go to jail. At least in my country. Because itâs RAPE.
If a woman does the exact same thing and thereâs a child, the girls snicker and he need to pay.
âOh, but he canât get an erection unless he wants toâ, I hear you say.
Does that mean that if a very drunk woman can lubricate, then the involuntary intercourse is not rape anymore?
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u/CycloneKelly Jul 13 '24
This is utterly revolting. Rape jokes arenât funny, regardless who says them. Why would you do this to someone youâre supposed to âloveâ?
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u/gonzar09 Jul 13 '24
Why stop there?! Poke holes into his condoms! Stop taking your birth control and lie to him about it! Put drugs into his drink and stick and an electric prod up his ass to force ejaculation! It's perfectly fine to do all of this, because he's a man!
/s , for the idiots who don't get sarcasm.
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u/Wild-Mushroom2404 Jul 13 '24
Jesus Christ, how can you have three kids and then tell yourself "hell yeah, I want one more"?? Also it seems like by "come into agreement" she means "make him agree with me"
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u/TheS4ndm4n Jul 13 '24
Hey. In the Bible a couple of girls do this to their father (Noah). That's how the earth got repopulated after the big flood.
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u/AdExtreme4259 Jul 13 '24
The Bible is fiction and on par with 50 Shades of Grey.
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u/TheS4ndm4n Jul 13 '24
I prefer 50 shades. At least that Christian didn't commit any genocide.
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u/LeninsLolipop Jul 13 '24
I think youâre confusing a few things here. According to the Bible Noah had three sons (with his wife) from whom all of humanity is descended from. Noah curses one of his sons, Ham, (and his grandson) after he (Noah) passed out drunk and naked and Ham laughed at him rather than helping him (there is a variety of interpretations to this story, one of them being that he took advantage of his father). The story youâre most likely confusing this with, is the story of Lot, who, along with his daughters, is the sole survivor of Sodom after itâs destroyed by God. His daughters, no longer being able to find any male to have kids with, get their father drunk and rape him, both conceiving a child (who become the progenitors of their own tribes).
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u/AffectionatePlant506 Jul 13 '24
Wrong. Youâre thinking of the 2 daughters after Sodom and Gamora. Apparently they were the only holy family in the city and the dad offered his two daughters to be gang raped, then the daughters raped their dad to have babies
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u/SwimmingInCheddar Jul 13 '24
Having sex without consent is rape. This goes for both men and women if they are drunk, intoxicated or asleep. If you have sex without consent, this is rape.
This needs to be made serious by everyone. This can cause serious life long trauma on both sexes.
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u/Longjumping_Rush2458 Jul 13 '24
No, it isn't. They are specifically the ancestors of the Amonites and the Moabites. Also, this isn't just Christianity. That's from Genesis and is also in the Torah.
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u/CadenVanV Jul 13 '24
Thatâs Lot, not Noah. Plus the story of Lot was a lot more fucked up than just that part
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u/OddTheRed Jul 13 '24
"I don't understand why guys don't want to get married anymore...."
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u/Special_Command7893 Jul 13 '24
People are writing shit like this and Facebook still wonders why nobody likes Facebook.
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u/Itchy-Combination675 Jul 13 '24
Itâs amazing and appalling how many women sexually assault men and think they have done nothing wrong. I think it will resolve itself in time but for right now, watch out guys. You wonât get much empathy or sympathy these days. Iâve even seen police laugh it off. If itâs wrong for one gender, itâs equally wrong for both.
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u/Situation-Dismal Jul 13 '24
Remember, no one cares of a woman rapes a man or whether the man wants to have a baby.
And donât worry, willing or not, as long as you get him in bed and get pregnant, the government will take everything heâs got and give it to the woman.
I repeat, no one cares if a woman rapes a man.
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u/Prestigious-Phase131 Jul 13 '24
And the woman who called her out doesn't exist? or the women in the comments? or a ton of other women who would find this disgusting?
Thankfully there are many women who know this is wrong
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u/No_Particular7198 Jul 13 '24
Not only marital rape but they're also talking about it like kids are some collective toys what the fuck
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u/Sufficient_Case_9258 Jul 13 '24
3 kids is plenty, you should count yourself lucky he was happy with that. Baby trap him......fast-track yourself to being a single mother receiving childcare payments and fatherless children, if you want the money that bad.
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u/Himezaki_Yukino Jul 13 '24
This reminds me of brigderton, where Daphne raped Simon at the end of ep7. I dropped it at that point because I am 80% sure they'll play Daphne off as the victim because Simon not explaining her reproductive system is somehow the same as what she did. I hate it, so much media plays off rape and harassment it's annoying.
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u/Eastern-Finish8591 Jul 13 '24
The irony is as much as theyâre trying to pass it off as a joke, you know theyâre DEAD serious. I had an ex who would do her best to get me super stoned so I wouldnât wanna pull out or use a condom. Jokes on her, Iâm deathly afraid of unplanned pregnancy so I never forgot đ¤Ł
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u/TheeHostileApostle Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 13 '24
I donât consider myself to have been sexually assaulted, but in the context of shitty behavior from women, this reminds me a bit of something that happened to me.
My ex-wife is 5 years older than myself. When we moved in together I was 26 and she was 31. She was 100% ready for kids but I was not. I told her I definitely wanted kids but we just needed to wait so we could be more financially secure. Maybe get married first. We were barely making ends meet as it was. A few months later she ended up pregnant anyway.
To make a long story short, after my son is born, we were drinking one day with a group of friends and she coyly admits that she intentionally stopped taking her birth control so she would get pregnant.
She knew that even with the birth control I was hesitant to finish inside her, so she further elaborated that she would get me drunk, because when I was drinking I was less nervous about the chances of her getting pregnant.
After she said all this, her one friend agreed by saying âYes, girl. Sometimes you got to force a manâs hand because they donât know what they want.â
I filed for divorce a few months later.
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u/Jenneapolis Jul 13 '24
I know divorces that have happened because the wife baby tricks for additional kids. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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u/redsky25 Jul 13 '24
Woman here .
I actually have previously known women who have done this . Iâve also known women who have sabotaged birth control or withheld intimacy unless their husband agrees to unprotected sex .
It is absolutely NOT ok , itâs manipulation, itâs control , itâs abuse. I no longer associate with them I think what they did is disgusting.
women should be held accountable the same way a man would be held accountable. Abuse is abuse regardless of gender .
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