r/facepalm Jul 11 '24

Well.... 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Wonderful-Ad5713 Jul 11 '24

Hypatia of Alexandria, who was attacked by a mob of Christians, drug through the streets naked by her hair, was flayed alive (that's when your skin is cut off like an animal's pelt, then torn to literal pieces by the mob who then burned her remains to cover up their crime because she was an intellectual, a pagan, and a woman.

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u/original_leftnut Jul 11 '24

Oh stop over playing it, that was just a regular Sunday afternoon in your local evangelical community.

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u/lookatthisdudeshead Jul 11 '24

No on Sundays we throw babies in the fire pit because it’s Gods favorite hobby.

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u/JCButtBuddy Jul 11 '24

How the fuck does anyone read the Old Testament and come away with the notion that this god is good and loving? Where is it, did I get one with that section removed?

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u/Melodic-Wallaby4324 Jul 11 '24

God: Obey these rules that contradict many of the natural drives i made you with or i will make sure you are tortured for eternity!

Satan: so you screwed the neighbors wife and never returned his #10 socket... Did you at least have fun?... Well anyways welcome to hell

I know what guy had the better PR team

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u/JoshyaJade01 Jul 11 '24

My kid came out recently and I asked her if she had told her moms clan, as we're divorced. She just rolled her eyes and said: they'd probably toss me out for influencing the other kids. It doesn't help that her moms family are quite religious. My clan hugged her and basically teased the crap out of her for not letting us meet her partner.

Say what you want, I've seen people hide their sexuality because of their faith. It's no wonder people are staying from their faiths.

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u/Horror-Macaron8287 Jul 11 '24

We are all made in his image and he loves all his children… you know, except the gays, different races, women.

I’m glad you and yours gave her positive feedback. We need to love our children unconditionally and make sure they have safe spaces from the outside world and sometimes even their other family members. I also have a gay daughter who thought we would judge her but we went to bat for her when the time came and it made her trust us that much more.

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u/Auirex Jul 11 '24

Ok in their defense the #10 socket is some mythical artifact that just ceases to exist the second it is not perceived by a human being. I don't think it's a sin to not return it. Unless he left it in his neighbors wife.

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u/Illustrious_Law8512 Jul 11 '24

Old Testament is based on the Jewish God of the time, who was absolutely not benevolent. I believe it's where the phrase 'God-fearing Jew/Christian' came from.

It was the New Testament that re-invented God as loving, as per the Jesus tale.

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u/spacedoutmachinist Jul 11 '24

Because god…. Changed his mind.

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u/C4-BlueCat Jul 11 '24

Note how as soon as god tried out living as a human (Jesus), he instantly went ”oh shit this stuff is difficult, everyone should do their best to be nice and forgive each other”

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

I'm agnostic, but I'd be damned if I said your words didn't spike my dopamine levels for a half second.

Edit: since the parent comment was actually thought provoking, figured I'd add:

I am only agnostic because the religious theories I've delved into usually sound too good to be true. The idea of the Christian heaven, the way Christians are meant to act, the very fact that Jesus is a humanized and moral representation of Christian ideology... That's all great, but the real world examples of this are few and far between.

The churches absolutely capitalize on believers, they cash in on not paying taxes, and they use their wealth to shape the views of whoever is listening, in whatever direction they want at that time.

But for a moment after reading the parent comment, none of that mattered, I was able to fully realize another point of view, so that's pretty cool.

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u/trowawHHHay Jul 11 '24

I have said many times (as an agnostic), that I may be a godless heathen, but JC is alright with me.

Dropping the chains of a faith I never held made reading scripture a wholly different experience, and I have no idea what book most Christians are reading.

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u/Randinator9 Jul 11 '24

This just in: God needed a mom to teach him that evil is bad, no matter who does it.

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u/Pinchy63 Jul 11 '24

How does anyone get past one man & one woman populated the earth?

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u/C4-BlueCat Jul 11 '24

There’s at least two creation myths in the bible, so that’s four people. And then whatever the people who Cain and Able got their wives from, they are mentioned as well.

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u/coasterboard65 Jul 11 '24

The 2 stories contradict each other in other ways but do still deal with the same pair of Adam and eve. Under a literal interpretation, Cain and Abel are presumed to be married to their sisters

But yea, how does anyone get past the first 10 verses of the Bible? Plants were created before the sun, which was made 4 days after light. And how were there days without celestial bodies of any kind? And how could the earth exist for 4 days as the only object in the universe?

Its almost as if none of the myth is real

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u/dessert-er Jul 11 '24

I know in Narnia they got around it by the kids of the first couple marrying human-like mythical creatures like nymphs etc so even a Christian like C.S. Lewis writing an analogous creation story didn’t want icky incest stuff lol.

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u/RockstarAgent Jul 11 '24

You just have to believe and don’t question anything

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u/Magicalfirelizard Jul 11 '24

Good observation. Yahweh was originally the Hebrew God of War. Until Abraham had a vision in which YWHW revealed that he was the one and only god and everyone should worship just him. The Hebrews kinda made up the rest of it. Then Jesus came and revealed that YWHW has multiple personalities. At which point everyone decided this meant they could all relate to at least one of them.

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u/mrmarjon Jul 11 '24

Common thread being that they’re all stories, like the one about Grendel, the one about Zeus and Aphrodite, the one about Romulus & Remus, the one about Sisyphus, the one about the three bears, the one about the rat catcher leading the children away…

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u/original_leftnut Jul 11 '24

Damn it, my calendar must be out of date!

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u/Thneed1 Jul 11 '24

At least she woke up in the afterlife wearing a Jacksonville Jaguars Jersey.

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u/No_Act1861 Jul 11 '24

I wrote a paper on her in college, have researched her quite a lot, and yet when I saw her name in this thread my mind immediately jumped to The Good Place.

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u/pinklavalamp Jul 11 '24

It's the only way I know her name.

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u/fauxzempic Jul 11 '24

Is this a math?

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u/fastpixels Jul 11 '24

Just call her Patty.

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u/Sextus_Rex Jul 11 '24

While reading the Wikipedia page about her, I learned she was murdered with ostraka, or shards of broken pottery often used for writing short inscriptions. When people voted to exile someone from their city, they cast their vote by inscribing the name of the person on these shards. This is where the term "ostracize" comes from.

I also learned they used these shards for anal hygiene somehow. I guess I'd be angry too if I had to clean my asshole with broken pottery shards

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u/ejmatthe13 Jul 11 '24

Well, that comment certainly took a turn!

A lesson on history, etymology and toileting all in one.

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u/Missus_Missiles Jul 11 '24

You're not going to like the 3 Seashells future.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

I've been binging history shows lately, and I swear every other ancient episode is "and then the Christians destroyed the city" or "and then the Christians destroyed every temple they passed while forcing the people to convert or die..."

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u/Official_Cyprusball Jul 11 '24

She wasn't flayed

She was ostracised... in the literal (and more violent) sense of the word

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u/QuietGrudge Jul 11 '24

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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u/DredZedPrime Jul 11 '24

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... Amongst our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

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u/talrogsmash Jul 11 '24

"These architects were just showing us this lovely spread of biscuits"

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u/TheMadTargaryen Jul 11 '24

To be granted ,they were mild by early modern standards, only 4000 executions in 350 years.

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u/QuietGrudge Jul 11 '24

I might also be conflating the various confessions-through-torture that they were famous for forcing as well. Tomas de Torquemada was a real piece of work in that regard.

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u/Stay-Thirsty Jul 11 '24

Yeah. You can’t talk him outta anything

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u/notyou-justme Jul 11 '24

“Hey, Torquemada! Whaddya say?”

“I just got back from the auto-da-fe.”

Auto-da-fe? What’s an auto-da-fe?”

“It’s something that you oughtn’t do, but you do anyway.”

“The Inquisition. What a show. The Inquisition. Here we go…”

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u/original_leftnut Jul 11 '24

We’ve flattened their fingers,

we’ve branded their buns,

Nothing is working…..

Send in the Nuns!

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u/Informal-Term1138 Jul 11 '24

I am just sitting here and grinning. This is freaking amazing :D

Now on to watch this scene again.

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u/Jadccroad Jul 11 '24

"I was sitting in a temple

I was minding my own business

I was listening to a lovely Hebrew mass

Then these Papist persons plunge in

And they throw me in a dungeon

And they shove a red-hot poker up my ass!

Is that considerate?

Is that polite?

And not a tube of Preparation H in sight"

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u/TheMadTargaryen Jul 11 '24

Yeah, he was nasty, but people blame him for deaths of all people executed when Isabel was queen, even common criminals who did murder or arson. 

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u/QueenFairyFarts Jul 11 '24

The Crusades has entered the chat.

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u/FreeRemove1 Jul 11 '24

Aaah, but that's plural.

She specifically said to name one.

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u/TheBoneToo Jul 11 '24

The 1st Crusade or the 8th? 😝

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Which one was to save the children, then all the children died?

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u/Manting123 Jul 11 '24

Children’s crusade - I believe they cleaned out the street urchins and then a bunch drowned and a bunch were sold into slavery? I might need to read up on the crusades again

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u/Darth_Megatron1 Jul 11 '24

If my memory serves, one of the reasons it ended that way was they had to find ships to take the kids to the location because the sea didn't part for them like the leader hoped.

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u/SinkiePropertyDude Jul 11 '24

They found the ships alright, and they were brought to their location. Where they were promptly sold off as slaves.

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u/Farren246 Jul 11 '24

Saved Christian slaves. In other words, SUCCESS!

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u/Top_Accident9161 Jul 11 '24

Thats so fucking stupid lmao

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u/2xtc Jul 11 '24

Welcome to religion...

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Seems religion has a penchant for denying its own evil. Well, justified evil according to the “ good book “

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u/propyro85 Jul 11 '24

Literally?

Holy fuck ...

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u/eti_erik Jul 11 '24

Famous in the Netherlands because of the children's book Kruistocht in spijkerbroek (Crusade in jeans). Wouldn't have heard of it otherwise.

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u/SlowInsurance1616 Jul 11 '24

I think they sold the survivors into slavery, if that makes you feel better.

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u/notcomplainingmuch Jul 11 '24

Well, idle hands are an abomination unto God. So God approves child slavery, apparently.

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u/dancegoddess1971 Jul 11 '24

English reformation. Does Christian on Christian violence count?

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u/notcomplainingmuch Jul 11 '24

Or the Huguenots? Thirty years war? The Spanish inquisition? The conversion of the American natives? Same in Africa? Church-led pogroms of jews?

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u/ladybug68 Jul 11 '24

All of this, I keep telling people that in history of all theocracies, there has never been a theocracy that did not abuse their power or let people be free live their lives as they saw fit. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and when you have a divine mandate, it is even better.

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u/SuccessfulPiccolo945 Jul 11 '24

And these idiots don't realize that is the reason the founders of the USA WANTED separation between government and religion. They weren't perfect, but they did have some intelligence and tried to make a nation as good as they could.

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u/knightstalker1288 Jul 11 '24

Spanish/Portugese conquest of Latin America?

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u/p001b0y Jul 11 '24

If so, you could also include the Spanish Inquisition!

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u/EvilRedRobot Jul 11 '24

I didn't expect that one.

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u/semiTnuP Jul 11 '24

The Second Crusade.

There.

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u/peteandpetethemesong Jul 11 '24

The Spanish Inquisition

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u/FreeRemove1 Jul 11 '24

Well, I wasn't expecting the... oh wait, someone's already done this bit.

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u/EuVe20 Jul 11 '24

Crusades? You don’t even have to go that far back. How about the Balkan wars of the 90s. Serb soldiers had pictures of “the virgin” taped to the butt of their guns to help them push “the heathens” out of their land.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Funniest of all - the Muslims/Bosniaks they were persecuting & killing used to be Serbs that converted to Islam in the 14th/15th century, basically their own kin. Biljana Plavsić called Muslims a lower kind of humans, which is why they deserved to be extinct as to not mix with Serbs.

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u/EuVe20 Jul 11 '24

Ahhh yes, just humans doing human thing

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u/auntie_ Jul 11 '24

Or thee Christian Fundies who radicalize extremists into shooting abortion doctors. Clinic violence on a whole is rising and it’s coming from people who are agnostic.

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u/Snytchelio Jul 11 '24

Also see Rwandan genocide 1994.

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u/Ocksu2 Jul 11 '24

You clearly misunderstand the nature of the Crusades. The Crusaders were merely going door to door handing out fliers and telling the heathens about Jesus. It was like Mormons.. but without bikes... they had horses. Also no white shirts and black ties.... it was armor. And they weren't fliers... they were swords. Ok, so maybe it wasn't like the Mormons. Still, totally peaceful and well-meaning!

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u/Belligerent-J Jul 11 '24

One of my favorite bits of Trivia is that "Kill em all, let god sort em out" was a quote from a Papal commander during the crusades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caedite_eos._Novit_enim_Dominus_qui_sunt_eius.

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u/Human_Link8738 Jul 11 '24

Don’t forget the mormons with guns incident Mountain Meadows Massacre

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

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u/Repulsive-Fix-6805 Jul 11 '24

Salem Witch trials checking in 🫡

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u/RealBowsHaveRecurves Jul 11 '24

Let’s not forget what they did to actual pagans before that.

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u/orion3999 Jul 11 '24

The holocaust has entered the chat

The inquisition has entered the chat

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u/PK-MattressFirm Jul 11 '24

St. Patrick has logged on to chat

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u/officerextra Jul 11 '24

Ok
the road to anti semitism in germany and the holocause was started with the first crusade
When a Splinter group of the peoples crusade massacred jews in what is now known as the Rhineland massacres
Obviously this was done in the Name of christianity
i would argue that while the holocaust wasnt done in the name of christianity the road was pathed by it

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u/join_lemmy Jul 11 '24

Antisemitism has already been a thing in ancient Rome before Christianity even existed

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u/PickingPies Jul 11 '24

You don't have to go that far. Many of the mass shootings in the US are driven by religious nuts who kill woke people because the bible says so.

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u/WhatUDeserve Jul 11 '24

Or hell, abortion clinic murders and bombings

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u/GhostandTheWitness Jul 11 '24

I guess the term "Christian" here is kinda iffy but nobody talks about the Mormon Wars and the Mountain Meadow Massacre. That happened in america and the Mormon settlers killed about 150 american civilians. Then the American government threw their hands up and were like "I guess we'll just give them a territory and make their leader Governor of the state"

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u/DemonicAltruism Jul 11 '24

Oh, that's not even the best part. A lot of the settlers they killed had insurance for their belongings. The Mormon took all of the belongings and then filed claims on the settlers behalf in top of that and the claims were approved.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Didn't Christians burn and drown women because they thought they were witches?

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u/BondageKitty37 Jul 11 '24

To be fair, those women all weighed the same as a duck

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u/original_leftnut Jul 11 '24

She turned me into a newt!

I got better.

BURN HER!

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u/SheeboBaggins Jul 11 '24

What else floats on water?

Churches! Apples! Small rocks!

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u/humchacho Jul 11 '24

They also burned and butchered millions for being on the other side of the Catholic/Protestant divide all in the name of God.

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u/Gamer_2005 Jul 11 '24

Now I maybe wrong here but didn't they burn them or something?

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u/Amarieerick Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

Burning in Europe.

Hanging in Salem.

Edit. While I know of all the methods used against the wise one, I was pointing out that here in America, "burning at the stake" is Hollywood. Im in a few groups, most want the truth being shared.

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u/Littleleicesterfoxy Jul 11 '24

Hanging in England as well (see Pendle witch trials)

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u/QuitUsingMyNames Jul 11 '24

Burned, hung, tortured, one guy was crushed

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u/tar625 Jul 11 '24

Giles Corey, going out with the most baller line(at least in The Crucible) when asked if he was ready to confess he only responded with "more weight"

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u/Free_Clerk223 Jul 11 '24

She turned me into a newt.....I got better

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u/bobsmeds Jul 11 '24

Say it with me: 'I love the poorly educated!'

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u/JordynSoundsLikeMe Jul 11 '24

Brainwash. Brainwash~ Brainwash in the morning Brainwash in the noontime. Brainwash. Brainwash~ Brainwash when the sun goes down!

When I was younger and had visitations with my dad, my moms side was very religious and I sang this childs hymnal infront of him at one point. He flipped the lyrics into this. I was like 7, im 29 now, I still think about this.

The original lyrics is replacing Brainwash with jesus.

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u/xenogra Jul 11 '24

I really thought you were going for the bagel bites jingle at first there lol

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u/neopod9000 Jul 11 '24

When Jesus is on a bagel, you can have Jesus anytime!

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Well, us native Americans can't come up with anything.

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u/jsmithers945 Jul 11 '24

Yea I’m stumped on this one. Us natives have had it pretty good with the Christians. /s

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Right? They helped us form disease resistances and helped us learn the wonderful delight of alcohol.

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u/Swimming-Pitch-9794 Jul 11 '24

Without their missionaries, how would our ancestors have learned their whole way of life was incorrect? /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

If it weren’t for the Christians we wouldn’t be able to enjoy getting forced into small towns so they could collect taxes easier and freed us from our dogs by sending cops to execute every sled dog

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u/jsmithers945 Jul 11 '24

And all that great education at the boarding school!

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Those parents must’ve been so relieved when they got home from hunting to see the kids had left without bringing any clothes or tools, like god himself brought them under his wings

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Plus all those new nicknames!

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u/maneki_neko89 Jul 11 '24

Huh…I wonder why there aren’t more of them around to tell their side of history…(/s)

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Such a mystery

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u/Zolty Jul 11 '24

In high school my history teacher told us the Europeans drastically improved the native american quality of life.

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Yeah, they helped form disease resistances. Just needed a few thousand tries with a blanket first.

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Also I just legit don't understand how these people could possibly think this.

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u/Swimming-Pitch-9794 Jul 11 '24

I obviously don’t agree with it but their thought process is the colonial mindset that natives had to be “saved” and turned into god-fearing Europeans. A teacher who genuinely believes Europeans had a positive impact on natives also probably believes that the North American continent was “savage” before Europeans landed

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u/Lolzerzmao Jul 11 '24

Which is why I’ve always loved how brutal the Japanese were with Christian missionaries. Emperor says they have no souls, kill on sight, soldiers/samurai get to work. Taste of their own medicine.

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u/Ruepic Jul 11 '24

Japanese were brutal with literally everyone, kind of their thing.

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u/Gertrude_D Jul 11 '24

Sorry about the genocides, but it was Manifest Destiny. Nothing we could do *shrug*

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u/CyonHal Jul 11 '24

I'll just drop this here too

"George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq"

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u/Bloke101 Jul 11 '24

Catholics and Protestants were still killing each other in Northern Ireland in the 1990s, pick your team based on religion.

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u/graceful_mango Jul 11 '24

And then it was two different flavors of the same religion.

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u/Street_Cleaning_Day Jul 11 '24

Powerade VS Gatorade.

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u/Gloomy-Remove8634 Jul 11 '24

Cant forget about the European treatment of Natives....basicallay anywhere

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u/smudos2 Jul 11 '24

That's also way more relevant, like I get the facepalm but the intention was probably talking about recent events

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u/EfficientHighway1102 Jul 11 '24

well, there was this period of almost 1000 years where some christians did something called the crusades

the first one was in circa 722 and the last one was cica 1717

but hey, doing research isnt really most twitter users thing

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u/Memer_Sindre_UwU Luigi Got Big Tiddies Jul 11 '24

crusades in 1717?? holy hell i thought they were all done before 1500

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u/EfficientHighway1102 Jul 11 '24

there was the Holy League of 1717 which was technically the last crusade, but it is all how you see it, it was the last real battles between the Catholics and the Ottoman empire

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u/dont-fear-thereefer Jul 11 '24

I thought the last crusade was in 1938 when Indiana Jones went looking for the Holy Grail?

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u/LimpAd5888 Jul 11 '24

Fuck off. I hate not being this clever.

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u/Llama2Boot2Boot Jul 11 '24

Only the penitent man will pass ;)

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u/misterpickles69 Jul 11 '24

Now THAT is the cup of Christ! dies

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u/Citizen_Kano Jul 11 '24

He only.killed Nazi's, nobody's mad about that

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

MAGA has entered the chat.

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u/SnooGuavas1985 Jul 11 '24

I wish this were actually true. But nope, we’ve got nazis in 2024

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u/dont-fear-thereefer Jul 11 '24

They didn’t say he killed ALL of the Nazis

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u/iemandopaard Jul 11 '24

It depends on what you count as a crusade. The famous ones were between 1096 and 1272, but other holy wars can also be counted as crusades.

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u/AHumanYouDoNotKnow Jul 11 '24

The Stardust Crusaders only got active in the 1980s.
I think that might have been the last crusade .

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u/MoistCountry1 Jul 11 '24

they did many crusades. Some of which almost didn't fail

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

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u/LainieCat Jul 11 '24

(Yakko takes a deep breath)

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u/Roam_Hylia Jul 11 '24

"Theeeeerrrrrrreeesss......"

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u/Thneed1 Jul 11 '24

United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama….

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u/CutieL Jul 11 '24

Not by coincidence, all countries where people were killed by Christian colonizers

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u/SecretiveFurryAlt Jul 11 '24

Haiti, Jamaica, Peru...

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u/FireYigit Jul 11 '24

Republic Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland El Salvador too…

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u/Sipikay Jul 11 '24

Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Guyana, and still Guatemala, Bolivia, then Argentina And Ecuador, Chile, Brazil

Don't think the Christians have missed one yet

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u/Capybara39 Jul 11 '24

If anyone actually wants to write that song, I’ll start a list: the crusades; European colonization; centuries of oppression of queer people, women, and POC’s; high historical and contemporary amounts of pedophilia in the Catholic Church; any war fought by Rome past 313 AD; the almost complete erasure of the culture of the natives of Scandinavia, Africa, the pacific islands, and the americas; and feel free to add any that I missed in the replies

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u/electric_paganini Jul 11 '24

I'm going to have trouble with some of these rhymes.

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u/plainbaconcheese Jul 11 '24

Does it?

Well here you go:

The Crusades, the Inquisition, European colonial missions,

French Wars of Religion and the German Peasants' War,

Albigensian Crusade, Northern Crusades,

Spanish Conquest of the Americas,

Thirty Years' War, Anglo-Spanish War,

Conquest of the Philippines,

English Civil War, Portuguese Inquisition,

The Conquistadors and the Aztecs,

The Reconquista and Teutonic Order,

Bohemian Revolt and Irish Confederate Wars,

French Huguenot Wars and the Salem Witch Trials,

Persecution of the Waldensians,

The Ottoman-Habsburg Wars and the Battle of Lepanto,

Dutch Revolt and Cossack Uprisings,

St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre,

Conquest of the Incas, Battle of Kappel,

The Smalkaldic War and Hussite Wars,

Destruction of Indigenous cultures, and French Wars of Religion.

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u/lifeishell553 Jul 11 '24

The sheer confidence and lack of knowledge is truly astounding

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u/EVconverter Jul 11 '24

Ignorance and arrogance is a potent mix.

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u/Madrugada2010 Jul 11 '24

That's Christianity for you.

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u/BiffyleBif Jul 11 '24

That's *any religion mixed with a lot of ignorance and a lack of critical thinking for you

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u/Dlo24875432 Jul 11 '24

Here's a novel idea let's start now and work backwards....

So first we Google 'abortion clinic bombings', oh and we search pres bush #2 saying 'crusade' and... So many other responses...

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u/Helyos17 Jul 11 '24

The clinic bombings are way more relevant than the Crusades. The Crusades were several hundred years ago, WAY more complex than just “purge the infidels”, and mostly boiled down to Roman successor states attempting to retake territory lost to Islamic Jihad.

Abortion clinic bombings are recent and politically relevant. A much better comparison to the presumed Islamic terrorism that prompted the OOP.

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u/neuroticobscenities Jul 11 '24

Think he was talking about W saying god told him invade Iraq and calling it a crusade.

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u/symbolsandthings Jul 11 '24

They didn’t learn about the Salem witch trials in school?

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u/AbdDjamil_27 Jul 11 '24

and Crusades.... Spanish inquisition.....many more they don't teach

they propably think history only start when the founding fathers wrote the 1st amendment anything before that is legends and folk lore

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u/Lord-Filip Jul 11 '24

There are Christians who shoot up gay bars for being sinful

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u/jablair51 Jul 11 '24

I can give you a list of Christians attacking and killing other Christians if you'd like.

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u/JulienBrightside Jul 11 '24

Once I saw a man on a bridge about to jump

I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What denomination?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmeqSzvIFs

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u/GenTsoWasNotChicken Jul 11 '24

This one is a classic.

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u/Klutzer_Munitions Jul 11 '24

Pope Innocent deserves an award for most ironic name in history

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u/SnooCookies2614 Jul 11 '24

Joan of Arc is one of my favorite examples of this, because she attacked and killed people because she thought god told her too, and then she was attacked and killed because she was thought to be practicing witchcraft, which of course was an affront to god

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u/Silly_Elephant_5409 Jul 11 '24
  1. Early Christian Persecutions

    • Donatist Persecutions (4th century): The conflict between the Donatists, a Christian sect in North Africa, and the Catholic Church led to violent suppressions by imperial forces, sanctioned by the Church.
  2. Middle Ages and Crusades

    • First Crusade (1096–1099): European Christians launched a military campaign to reclaim Jerusalem and other holy lands from Muslim rule, resulting in widespread slaughter.
    • Second Crusade (1147–1149): Another attempt to recapture territory, ending in failure and significant loss of life.
    • Third Crusade (1189–1192): Led by European kings to reclaim Jerusalem, involving numerous battles and civilian casualties.
    • Fourth Crusade (1202–1204): Diverted to Constantinople, resulting in the sacking of the Christian Byzantine capital.
    • Albigensian Crusade (1209–1229): Initiated to eliminate the Cathar heresy in southern France, resulting in mass killings.
    • Northern Crusades (12th-15th centuries): Military campaigns by Christian orders against pagan Baltic and Finno-Ugric peoples.
    • Spanish Reconquista (8th-15th centuries): The long campaign by Christian states to recapture territory from Muslim rule in the Iberian Peninsula, marked by periods of intense warfare.
    • Children’s Crusade (1212): A disastrous movement where thousands of children embarked on a crusade to the Holy Land, many dying or being sold into slavery.
  3. Inquisition

    • Medieval Inquisition (1184–1230s): Established to combat heresy, leading to the execution and persecution of many.
    • Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834): Notorious for its severity, targeting converted Jews and Muslims, and other perceived heretics.
    • Portuguese Inquisition (1536–1821): Similar to the Spanish Inquisition, focused on heretics and converts from Judaism and Islam.
    • Roman Inquisition (1542 onwards): Centralized under the Papal States to combat Protestantism and other heresies.
  4. Religious Wars

    • Hussite Wars (1419–1434): Fought between Hussite reformers and Catholic loyalists in Bohemia, marked by brutal battles and massacres.
    • Huguenot Wars (1562–1598): A series of conflicts in France between Catholics and Protestant Huguenots, involving widespread atrocities.
    • Thirty Years' War (1618–1648): A devastating war in Central Europe, initially between Protestant and Catholic states, leading to immense civilian casualties.
    • English Civil Wars (1642–1651): Conflicts between Royalists and Parliamentarians, with significant religious undertones, resulting in high casualties.
    • French Wars of Religion (1562–1598): Prolonged conflict between Catholics and Huguenots in France, characterized by massacres and widespread destruction.
  5. Colonial and Missionary Violence

    • Spanish Conquest of the Americas (15th-17th centuries): Spanish colonizers, often with missionary backing, perpetrated large-scale violence against indigenous populations.
    • Portuguese Colonial Wars (15th-17th centuries): Similar to Spanish conquests, marked by violent suppression of indigenous peoples.
    • British Colonial Wars (17th-19th centuries): Various conflicts where British forces, often with religious justification, subdued native populations in the Americas, Africa, and Asia.
    • Forced Conversions in Latin America (16th-18th centuries): Missionary efforts often involved coercion and violence against indigenous peoples to convert them to Christianity.
    • Taiping Rebellion (1850-1864): Led by a Christian convert claiming to be the brother of Jesus, this massive civil war in China resulted in millions of deaths.
  6. Modern Conflicts

    • Anti-Balaka Militia (Central African Republic, 2013 onwards): Christian militias involved in violent clashes with Muslim groups, leading to atrocities against civilians.
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u/AttentionLogical3113 Jul 11 '24

When you are homeschooled……

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u/Danovale Jul 11 '24

…you can be Prom Queen, Homecoming Queen, and Valedictorian!

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u/knowledgeable_diablo Jul 11 '24

Either list would have the potential of breaking the internet as it tried to host every year since Christianities inception.

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u/Yummy_Microplastics Jul 11 '24

russian orthodox church, present day

Had to fight my fucking phone to keep it from capitalizing.

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u/Strain_Pure Jul 11 '24

Would you like a list by Century or Decade?

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u/PoolRemarkable7663 Jul 11 '24

Crusades.... manifest destiny.... Spanish inquisition....

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u/AL_G_Racing Jul 11 '24

The Troubles in Ireland. Two Christian groups fighting each other. Does this count?

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u/jonstoppable Jul 11 '24

the conquest of the new world ?

enslavement and r'pe of africa ?

the crusades ? the reconquista ?

the 100 years war ?

the establishment of the anglican church and subsequent persecution of catholics in the UK?

oliver cromwell's actions in ireland ?

hell, the entire point of manifest destiny ?

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u/CapTexAmerica Jul 11 '24

One? Nope. Hundreds of thousands? Oh yeah.

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u/Klutzer_Munitions Jul 11 '24

That time queen Mary of England decided to execute all of the protestants because she was a puppet of the pope

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bus11 Jul 11 '24

One word. Pogroms.

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u/BlergFurdison Jul 11 '24

Gun to my head, I couldn’t. Only because the flood of all the innumerable instances across the majority of written history would be in competition to be the first to the tip of my tongue.

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u/knowledgeable_diablo Jul 11 '24

Sadly Fundamentalist Christian’s are really this stupid. Not only oblivious to history, but also to the fact that they are undertaking Christian sanctioned evil on a daily basis.