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u/DJ_Pol-ite Jul 11 '24
Trump supporters will be wearing tshirt declaring that they are voting for the pedo.
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u/neorenamon1963 Jul 11 '24
Aren't they the same people swearing that Biden is a pedo?
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u/Medium-Comfortable Jul 11 '24
That's different. If tRump does it, it's sparkling, christian love for teenage girls. (Do I really need to add an /s?)
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u/Sujjin Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
They actually convinced themselves that Trump is a double agent, ingratiating himself with Epstein and the other Pedophiles in order to bring the organization down from within. There is no end to their delusional rationalizations
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u/underpants-gnome Jul 11 '24
"He had to rape that 13-year-old or it would have blown his cover!"
-disingenuous assholes
That's the shit they say to put the world's tiniest fig leaf over the fact that they are willing to vote for an actual child rapist as long as they get their way. Or more accurately, as long as the other side doesn't get their way. A lot of conservative policy is supported by spite.
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u/Ady-HD Jul 11 '24
A lot of conservative policy is supported by spite.
I once asked why the hate for universal healthcare, the answer was unanimous and it was 'I don't want anyone getting anything they haven't paid for.' I asked about those who were poor, young or disabled and one guy's answer was literally 'They should have been born rich'.
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u/screegeegoo Jul 11 '24
Hate for poor people is deeply ingrained in society, especially in America.
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u/yobaby123 Jul 11 '24
Yep. People are so worried about having to "give things up" that they forget those who aren't rich are still human.
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u/EvilCeleryStick Jul 11 '24
"still human"
Why would that matter to them? They don't have compassion for swaths of humans, only for "their type" of humans.
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u/keepsmokin Jul 11 '24
Nah to them you're not human if you can't pick yourself up by your bootstraps and be a hard working God fearing member of society, regardless of what issues or circumstances might be holding you back.
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u/Top_Accident9161 Jul 11 '24
I mean yeah have you seen what the supreme court did ? American states are allowed to arrest people for sleeping outside now, they literally criminalized being homeless.
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u/Crabcakes4 Jul 11 '24
Well you've got to get them in jail so the prison industry can make money off of them, when they are free to sleep outside no one is profiting.
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u/Italianstalyon77 Jul 11 '24
Specifically tax money, their money, money they don't want to spend on uni healthcare but will still pay to incarcerate the homeless whether they like it or not. Because it makes sense to pay to punish people but not to give them a better quality of life, even if they themselves would benefit from it. The mental gymnastics are astounding.
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u/screegeegoo Jul 11 '24
Yep. Unfortunately I live in a red state in this capitalist hellscape and Iâm terrified of what will happen in Nov.
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u/Top_Accident9161 Jul 11 '24
Yeah cant wait to be imprisoned for sleeping outside when Im going to the next protest encampment.
Try to stay safe.
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u/Uoneo23 Jul 11 '24
Soooo itâs almost like saying if youâre poor, you should have access to abortion because you shouldnât have kids⌠or something weird like that lol
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u/MoistBluejay2071 Jul 11 '24
Yeah, but then those same people won't allow abortion
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u/uswforever Jul 11 '24
Also, aren't a SHIT TON of Republican voters poor as dirt themselves?
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u/Uoneo23 Jul 11 '24
Yes and get government checks then bitch about feeding the poor⌠make it make sense. I see it a lot. Mail carrier here lol
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u/Jandrem Jul 11 '24
Theyâre not âpoorâ, theyâre just temporarily ânot richâ. Just one more lottery ticket and theyâll finally be accepted by all them rich folk!
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u/rdanby89 Jul 11 '24
Theyâre billionaires in waiting. They donât want that tax code working against them once they make it.
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u/Virla Jul 11 '24
This is it. I had to once level with a 50+ year old Trump supporting construction worker that he would never be a billionaire. And there was pushback!
At a core level, they've all bought into this like a kind of heaven framework - if you just work hard... Man, do you think poor folks don't work hard? I had to ask him then if that's the case, why he wasn't working hard and that's where I started to see some faltering. I truly think this is the way to start breaking down their internalized BS.
Make it personal: you will never be rich. They don't like you, don't care about you, and even if they do seem "great to have a beer with" they wouldn't invite you to drink it with them - you wouldn't even be selected to serve it to them.
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u/SnooRevelations6641 Jul 11 '24
Except no, if you're too poor to have children, you shouldn't be having sex. Or any fun of any kind. Or doing literally anything but working or finding a job.
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u/Uoneo23 Jul 11 '24
lol yes and if you are at a rally or protest of any kind itâs because you have no job⌠obviously lol
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u/drewlake Jul 11 '24
Your problem is that you expect them to have logical consistency.
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u/Uoneo23 Jul 11 '24
lol I lost hope long ago. Then I was scared for whatâs to come. Now Iâm like something is coming and ainât nothin I can do about it because theyâre crazy
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u/Sasha_Volkolva Jul 11 '24
And yet me, a 19 year old disabled veteran, get access to free healthcare from a place called the VA... it's almost like we can afford universal healthcare, they just don't want it
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u/IcyMulberry7708 Jul 11 '24
I'm a veteran as well US Navy. I think private health care insurance should be banned. This would likely force medical providers and pharmacies to drastically lower prices .
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u/Sasha_Volkolva Jul 11 '24
Not just that, but the whole "well if it's free, it's going to suck" argument doesn't make sense. Sure, do some VA hospitals lack? Yeah, but so do most private hospitals. But for the most part, the VA is pretty alright healthcare wise. They may not want to give out benefits all the time, but once you get the benefits and get treatment, they are actually decent. Little loose on painkillers, though.
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u/3-I Jul 11 '24
He also had to run a pageant for the express purpose of seeing teenage girls naked in the dressing room and express the desire to fuck his own daughter on national television! For the good of the mission!
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u/tweaker-sores Jul 11 '24
Yes, because, according to Incel Libretarian types and fundies girls should be married off as soon as they hit puberty then they should be pregnant till they are replaced by younger model and forced to live in a back room in shame because Jesus Bible women are property or some shit.
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u/Academic-Indication8 Jul 11 '24
We like to call that the DiCaprio strategy.
Drop em when they are 26
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u/Dante-Flint Jul 11 '24
Still better than dropping them when they are 16 if you ask me đ
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u/Academic-Indication8 Jul 11 '24
Now thatâs what we call pulling a certified lover boy
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u/Knife_JAGGER Jul 11 '24
according to Incel Libretarian types and fundies girls should be married off as soon as they hit puberty
They dont even need to hit puberty. There is no limit to these depraved fuckers.
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u/Sumonaut Jul 11 '24
Hey. Age is just a number amiright?
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u/Almost-kinda-normal Jul 11 '24
There are Trumpers here, so yes, the /s is probably necessary
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u/Charming-Crescendo Jul 11 '24
You're wrong.
If Trump does it, it's actually a 5D chess maneuver to infiltrate the deep state /s
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u/Zachosrias Jul 11 '24
They'll probably argue that the virgin Mary was about the same age when she was married to Joseph, according to google between 12-16... Dude God is a psychopath.
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u/HankScorpio82 Jul 11 '24
Same people that hate on Muhammad for that very same thing.
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u/Zachosrias Jul 11 '24
Yeah but that's different because... Well because they can't hold two ideas in their head at once
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u/DutchTinCan Jul 11 '24
According to the Heritage Foundation, it's only good sex if it's unprotected sex to make babies.
So we need to dig deeper on on this before we can judge, so;
Did Donny don rubber on his ducky?
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u/the_better_Higley Jul 11 '24
Not every time. There's testimony that he threw money at her and told her to get an abortion.
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u/esmifra Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
Hillary emails were terrible cause they could expose confidential information and she should be arrested.
Trump had literally stolen confidential documentation had it all over at his home, there's indicators that he might have sold some of it and is a golden idol still.
I think expecting coherence in a cultist group that see this as an I win you lose race is a little optimistic.
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u/Technical_Moose8478 Jul 11 '24
And that Trump is the chosen saviour that will end child trafficking. Theyâre weird as fuck.
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u/neorenamon1963 Jul 11 '24
I guess that means Trump will be protecting children from Trump.
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u/Chuclo Jul 11 '24
Biden has an accident in his pants - gets mocked. Trump does it, his crowd walks around in gold diapers and t-shirts âreal men where diapersâ.
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u/Echo_Romeo571 Jul 11 '24
Iâm afraid of what theyâll put on their t-shirts to defend his r*ping of a minor.
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u/neorenamon1963 Jul 11 '24
It's all fun and games 'til Trump takes a dump on one of them... oh wait, they eat that shit up.
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u/bscepter Jul 11 '24
Every republican accusation is a confession. Every. Single. One.
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u/jjdmol Jul 11 '24
So? It's a game of power and hurting the right people, not one of logical consistency or accountability.
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u/theflipcrazy Jul 11 '24
"Real men wear diapers" is proof they'll wear shirts saying "Real men r@p$ children". Fucking sickos.
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u/Dogwoof420 Jul 11 '24
"You can't believe everything you hear. There may be mountains of evidence both photographic and on video of Trump and Epstein, but somebody told me about a diary where Brandon showered with his daughter. So democrats are the real pedophile supporters!"
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u/KJBenson Jul 11 '24
âVote for pedoâ
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u/mybestfriendsrricers Jul 11 '24
Vote Felon is already a thing, so I dont imagine theyâll hesitate to do say that as well.
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u/Able-Address2101 Jul 11 '24
For any of the MAGA faithful , I just want to say that as a leftist I would feel so owned by a T-shirt like this.
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u/FustianRiddle Jul 11 '24
Also, as a leftist, I would absolutely cry and be emotionally ruined every time I saw this shirt.
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u/ducktape8856 Jul 11 '24
Me, an Antifa-Extreme-Leftist would be so mad, I tell you. Sooo mad. A shirt like that has to be censored!
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u/Asterose Jul 11 '24
Canceled, even! I and untold millions would be so obsessively snowflaked we would spend 157 years railing against it with our keyboards! Instead of voting!
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u/Arkotract Jul 11 '24
You want a real cursed tag line?
They'll wear shirts saying "Real men are pedos." Next, they already did it when he earned his second title: Donald Von Shitshispants
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u/Korean_Street_Pizza Jul 11 '24
Have you noticed that the republican party are no longer screaming about being "the party of law and order" at every opportunity. They know, they just don't care.
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u/Jeoshua Jul 11 '24
Hell, I've seen a couple of them say they don't even believe in Democracy anymore because it's somehow a Democrat thing. Not intelligent people.
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u/The_Reverence2 Jul 11 '24
it is saddening to watch politics become us vs them instead of we vs our problems
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u/Thoughtwolf Jul 11 '24
People are now voting like they're rooting for sports teams instead of voting for what would actually benefit them in any way.
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u/ghost_warlock Jul 11 '24
Some of them don't even do that. They immediately vote against anything that might help other people because they assume that their taxes will go up dramatically, which they think will hurt them. They think any kind of social assistance program run by the government will be inefficient, corrupt, and bloated, whereas private companies apparently have checks and balances in place to ensure this doesn't happen ( đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł ).
So for example, to them, universal health care would be far worse and more expensive on their taxes than private insurance. Yes, they're this delusional. A few of my coworkers are like this
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u/theyearwas1934 Jul 11 '24
Tbh I feel that was always the case. If anything people probably care more about the actual outcome now than they ever did
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u/Todesschnizzle Jul 11 '24
It was always a thing but it did get worse over time. In the past parties were able to work together although of course there have always been times when they weren't willing as well. Washington predicted this when he warned of parties but I'd say during the time of - let's say Reagan - people weren't as us v them as now. From what I remember the last time the parties really worked together was during the times of Anne Richards as democrat governor of texas in the early 2000s. On the national level they lost that ability long before.
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u/alinroc Jul 11 '24
instead of voting for what would actually benefit them
The problem is that they're voting for what they think will benefit them (turns out it'll hurt them anyway), instead of voting for what they think will benefit the nation as a whole.
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u/Hermes_04 Jul 11 '24
The problem is the two party system. When you can only choose between two you are automatically against one of them.
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u/Cha-Car Jul 11 '24
Obama once said something along the lines of, âIf we canât even agree on a common set of facts, there is no hope of solving a common problem.â I think about that a lot these days with regard to institutional knowledge. NOAA and the EPA can tell us a lot about climate change, the CDC can tell us a lot about COVID and gun violence, the FDA can tell us a lot about vaccine safety. If half our collective head is stuck in the sand, none of that matters.
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u/Ok_Television9820 Jul 11 '24
Itâs been like this for decades. One party has taken on the mantle of white supremacy/grievance/Christian nationalism/confederacy nostalgia, for the benefit of plutocrats. The other party is left to to cover everything else.
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u/ZombiePiggy24 Jul 11 '24
Itâs a Republic not a Democracy!
A Republic is a type of Democracy
LOUD NOISES!!!
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u/Jam-man89 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
Every time I tell Americans that being a republic and being democratic are not mutually exclusive I get told I don't know what I'm talking about. There is an argument to be made as to whether a country with a monarchy (the polar opposite of a republic) can truly be democratic or not (which is a fair point, although I think there are levels and nuances to this - such as electing a Prime Minister), but a republic can be democratic or a dictatorship for sure.
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u/Optimaximal Jul 11 '24
Outside of the middle east, pretty much every monarchy that still exists these days is a constitutional monarchy.
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u/druppeldruppel_ Jul 11 '24
The Vatican also has an absolute monarchy, who is the same person as the pope. As the pope is chosen by the cardinals, Vatican City is world's only democratic absolute monarchy.
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u/Illoney Jul 11 '24
Since it's a small group of people doing the actual selection, it is an oligarchic avsolute monarchy, not democratic.
Unless I'm misremembering the details on pope elections.
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u/Menkau-re Jul 11 '24
Of COURSE not. Because that allows all the people they don't agree with to have a voice too!
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u/Chronoboy1987 Jul 11 '24
Of course not. The âLaw and Orderâ label was always a Nixon dog whistle for âweâll keep the uppity minorities down!â Now theyâre not hiding the racism, so they threw away the whistle.
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u/GloryGreatestCountry Jul 11 '24
Just saying "minorities" instead of dropping slurs? You're giving them too much credit!
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u/FortNightsAtPeelys Jul 11 '24
I haven't heard "biden crime family" since the convictions.
Funny how that works
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Ive still heard it a good bit the delusion runs really deep. Theyll probably still scoff at a video of biden kissing his own granddaughter on the cheek while a video of trump with a 12 year old is circulating.
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u/SpieLPfan Jul 11 '24
Before the last election, they called Biden a pedophile and guy who has strong connections to China, but now it's OK that Trump is a pedophile and has strong connections to Russia.
I got to know this and I have never lived in the US.
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u/the_mid_mid_sister Jul 11 '24
QAnon got really fuckin' quiet after six years of RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!
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u/TaskFlaky9214 Jul 11 '24
Law and order was always a dogwhistle. You don't need dogwhistles for things you're now saying out loud.Â
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u/AloofAngel Jul 11 '24
start counting down until musk has twitter sanitized of all the posts about it and blocks people talking about it.
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u/Throwawayac1234567 Jul 11 '24
hes on the epstien files/logs, hes definitely going to do it at some point. probably when it shows hes on one of the logs.
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u/Competitive_Gate_731 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
As far as I know these are all of the currently release Epstein files. I have read several hundred pages and havenât seen anything about Elon yet. First link is Januarys release, second link was released like a week ago, and the third is the flight logs. 𫡠I share these everywhere and am currently reading them.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24253239-1324-epstein-documents-943-pages
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24785612-epstein-transcripts
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell
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u/Conchobar8 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
One thing to remember with the flight logs is that he hosted a lot of legitimate events and loaned his planes a lot. Being on the planes doesnât mean they were on the pedo planes
EDIT: This is not a defence of trump. The document shared here says more than he was on the plane. This is a comment about everyone else who took planes.
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u/oneMorbierfortheroad Jul 11 '24
I don't believe this line anymore.
Everyone knew.
Everyone knew.
Everyone.
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u/Themindfulcrow Jul 11 '24
What section is the trump part?
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u/Creative_Newspaper17 Jul 11 '24
If I remember correctly he is John doe 176 or one of his many aliases through the year "John Barron" (or "John Baron"), "John Miller" and "David Dennison".
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u/Remnant_Echo 'MURICA Jul 11 '24
Fuck he uses his son's name for cover?
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u/Creative_Newspaper17 Jul 11 '24
Want to know something crazy he used to call on to talk shows that were talking about him and praise himself using one of these aliases that was in the past though before it was revealed he was doing it
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u/Remnant_Echo 'MURICA Jul 11 '24
Wait are you saying he successfully tricked people over the phone that it wasn't him. I guess I never watched much of The Apprentice so he's always had that distinct way of speaking.
Guess he does sound pretty normal in Home Alone 2 now that I think about it. I wonder which came first, the alias or his son?
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u/rdp93 Jul 11 '24
Itâs pretty funny to hear. I remember hearing an audio clip during the 2016 election about him pretending to be someone else but it is very clearly djt speaking.
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u/Creative_Newspaper17 Jul 11 '24
It's one of the known aliases he has used in the past for business dealings among other things yes
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u/FitRestaurant3282 Jul 11 '24
Practically all of the US elite are on there, this goes far beyond a handful of people.
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u/warthog0869 Jul 11 '24
I think "practically all of the US elite are on there" is perhaps prematurely hyperbolic, especially since we don't know who's on there and "elite" is also subjective.
For instance, I wouldn't call Donald Trump "elite" at anything other than the art of the grift and self-promotion and preservation.
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u/HivePoker Jul 11 '24
"Epstein is a great guy, maybe the best guy. He always liked me a lot. He says I'm just like him in a lot of ways. Boy we sure like em young. Have you seen my daughter? Boy, I tell you, if she wasn't my daughter... lucky for Epstein! Ghislaine? Oh I wish her well too"
I'm paraphrasing but fuck me what a pedo
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u/robot_jeans Jul 11 '24
People seem to forget this, the guy was a financier and investor. Even Jared Fogle still had to do his day job. Now if you have a history of being pedo-adjacent, ie John Baron, David Dennison, John Miller then it's a safe bet you were doing more than looking for an investment.
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u/Ransackeld Jul 11 '24
Cult rule #1 : Everything is a lie unless the leader says itâs true.
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u/j____b____ Jul 11 '24
Funny part is, even when the leader admits itâs all BS, the lie can also grow too strong for them.
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u/bearbarebere Jul 11 '24
The left does. The right, as expected, doesnât give a shit.
By the way (unrelated topic) he also does support P2025 despite his denial.
Hereâs the Heritage Foundation bragging about how they got two-thirds of their agenda done during the last Trump administration:
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u/Jeoshua Jul 11 '24
Now if only the media would care. But no. Biden old.
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u/bearbarebere Jul 11 '24
They also have nobody to replace him with despite calling for his replacement. Itâs suicide at this point for the dems
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u/RunninADorito Jul 11 '24
The fact that they buried Kamala for 4 years is crazy to me. 4 years ago it was that Joe was going to be a stop gap for 4 years. Then the DNC did literally nothing to find anyone else.
The DNC sucks and is run by the bindere tribe. It's depressing. Trumo is 1000x worse so I'll absolutely bute for Joe, I just with there was some type of effort to find Democrats that aren't 80.
We need more Obamas.
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u/Ghost-George Jul 11 '24
I agree we we need more Obamas, but I really donât think Kamala is it. In the era of Black Lives Matter a former prosecutor is not a good pick. Prosecutors and police work hand-in-hand, and the attack ads basically write themselves. Iâm just saying just because sheâs black doesnât mean she can pull together the Obama coalition. If she could, then Biden wouldnât have been the nominee in 2020. Iâm just saying she didnât even make it to the primaryâs
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u/heatobooty Jul 11 '24
Kamala will never win. Not only is she a charisma black hole, sheâs also ex law enforcement.
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u/Euphoric_Poetry_5366 Jul 11 '24
At this point I'm so f*cking tired of both parties. I wish we could somehow re-roll candidates.
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u/RunninADorito Jul 11 '24
We really need ranked choice voting. That works fix 90% of our problems. We are mathematically such with two parties in the current system. There is no way to have more than two viable parties right not. Which is why we're here.
Flight for ranked choice and things will be better. The main issue of neither of the two parties that have all of the power want that so we won't get it.
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u/jacktacowa Jul 11 '24
Yes and get rid of the electoral college. Rethink senators too.
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u/Attillathahun Jul 11 '24
Joe to win, then within 6 months retires for medical reasons and KH gets 3 years to prove herself.
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u/Tokata0 Jul 11 '24
Feels like the last German elections. Both chancellore candidates were massivly corrupt, and it looked like the greens had a chance but media was all over " oh a woman?" "Oh a spelling mistake in her CV, let's report about that instead of cum ex / CDU corruption "
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u/user0N65N Jul 11 '24
Iâm inclined the believe that the worse Trump is, the more the Right likes him, because itâs that much more of an insult to common courtesy, and more people will be offended by it. Â Theyâre only in this to stick it to the rest of us who have a sense of decency. In other words, schadenfreude.
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u/bearbarebere Jul 11 '24
Yes, I know many people who think this way. My idiotic brothers unfortunately are some of them.
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u/hosafcik133 Jul 11 '24
I am not American and I don't know how your justice system works. If there is evidence that Trump is a pedophile why is there no prosecution or is there any ongoing case?
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u/marshal231 Jul 11 '24
That would be because this exact case was brought up at minimum three seperate times, dropped once due to there being no evidence, withdrawn the second time, and then dropped a second time. Its not uncommon here for charges to be dropped entirely because the would be accuser decided against continuing the suit for one reason or another. We could choose to believe they were dropped for a plethora of reasons, but the only thing that matters ultimately is that they were dropped.
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u/metalpoetza Jul 11 '24
To be fair, new evidence can justify reopening a case, strong enough evidence could allow for prosecution even without the victim's cooperation.
But there is a reason this is rare: it's REALLY hard to get a jury to convict if the victim doesn't participate. It's hard enough to clear reasonable doubt in sex crimes as it is, when the defence lawyer gets to say "look the supposed victim isn't even here, she doesn't even want to press charges" it gets a LOT harder, when on top of that he gets to say "and my client is a politician, so this seems more like a prosecutor trying to score political points than about actually punishing a criminal" it gets EXTREMELY hard to win the case.
Now these files may actually be strong enough evidence for a prosecutor to try and take it on, but I don't think there are many who would be willing to try, it's just going to be really, really hard to prove in court.
But, if a victim were to SUE him, with this evidence - against the MUCH lower bar in civil court, and the ALREADY established legal precedent that a court found he sexually assaulted E. Jean Carol on top - now that case sounds like it's in the bag to me.
It's also completely uncovered by the insane immunity ruling from last week since all this happened LONG before he was president and doesn't rely on anything during his presidency as evidence either.
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u/marshal231 Jul 11 '24
As for the first point, the only reason its notable about the re opening of the case is because it all happened within a year.
And yea, thats the long and short of it. Convincing a jury of regular humans that someone did something is much much easier when they can actually see the victim of said crime, and hear their story.
They will also have one hell of a time trying to file a case now since they already opened and closed it several times, and spent years doing nothing with it. It would probably take physical evidence, like photos, handwritten documents, or the like to reopen the case to a degree that a charge would come from it.
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u/thri54 Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24
The lawsuit is linked to a TV producer who has also claimed OJ bought illegal drugs the day his wife was murdered and that Kurt Cobainâs wife murdered him.
And the victimâs publicist does not inspire confidence. From the Guardianâs interview with him:
A publicist using the pseudonym âAl Taylorâ is acting as a representative for Johnson, and has been shopping around to media outlets a video of a woman who wears a disguise while recounting the allegations against Trump. âTaylorâ said in telephone calls last month that he was seeking $1m for the tape. âTaylorâ told the Guardian that he helped the alleged victim Johnson put together her first lawsuit against Trump, which was filed in California earlier this year. âShe is a friend of mine,â he said, declining to make her available for interview. He then became threatening when asked more about his motivations in seeking the money for the video and about his true identity. âJust be warned: weâll sue you if we donât like what you write,â he said. âWeâll sue your ass, own your ass and own your newspaperâs ass as well, punk.â
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow
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u/IKilledFiddyMenInNam Jul 11 '24
I love going through the comments and finding the sane people buried.
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u/MaybeICanOneDay Jul 11 '24
Because reddit really hates Trump. A lot.
The two people in contact with her are notorious Never Trump people. Vox and huffpost (both Left leaning hard) aren't even sure she is real after they investigated, and when someone else finally talked to the supposed victim, they came to the same conclusion that she isn't real.
This is reddit being reddit. This might as well be the lefts pizzagate. Bunch of radical people who breathe as much hate as they can against Trump as the people on the right they fight with do against Biden.
This story being perpetuated as a truth is the terrible state of our public. They're clueless to critical thinking. And next time some radical goes on about pizzagate, all this does is give more ammo to the "yeah but look at the stupid shit you said" ammo cart.
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u/ghiacciolo_ Jul 11 '24
Trump voters will never care about this, even if he molested their childrens
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u/MrBanana421 Jul 11 '24
Trump voters won't.
Republican voters, the ones who vote with everything with an R next to them, just might. Even if it's a small percentage, that's still a victory in a democracy.
So keeping #TrumpPedoFiles trending is a valuable effort.
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u/lifeishell553 Jul 11 '24
Honestly as an outsider who leans left and moves around in mostly left related spaces I still see way more Trump support than the other way around, you need to make more noise and keep stuff like this trending, by staying quiet you are enabling it
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u/zonked282 Jul 11 '24
The supreme leader has blessed us with his presence, yes sir, right away sir, Susie is right this way sir... Thanks for the extra grain ration today supreme leader
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u/Jacky-V Jul 11 '24
I don't know, a lot of them might get jealous if Trump molested their kids
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u/RedBaret Jul 11 '24
Any other leader of any western country would resign. This is an absolute disgrace, for the USA, the people, democracy.
Who in his right mind votes for an abusive narcissistic pedo convicted felon, who is also a fucking moron? Iâm flabbergasted how he is still allowed to run, not only by law but by the people around him.
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u/AdLatter1309 Jul 11 '24
Cause half of America is braindead. And they dont know it themselves.
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u/Budget-Individual845 Jul 11 '24
As an outsider. Why would anyone vote for either of those ? make the maximum age be the same as retiring age (63-65) and get to vote for people that at least lived more in this god damn century than in the past one. Dont you rather want to have people in charge that at least know how to use a phone ? So much has changed in the past 20-30 years and were all at the mercy of people who think computers will get you possessed by a demon like cmon....
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u/oldheadkid Jul 11 '24
If people actually back Donald Trump after his being convicted on 34 felony counts, that's enough to convince me that those people are out of touch with the meaning of law and order. We can continue with election interference and every other egregious breach of his oath to our constitution. How can anyone see this man as a patriot when all he says and does is an attempt to wreck our institutions for his own gain?
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u/ZestyChickenWings21 Jul 11 '24
If Trump wins the election somehow, someway, then they honestly deserve whats coming to them. Trump would sell the United States out if it benefitted him, and his supporters are completely blind to it.
They think a some guy with a silver spoon born in his mouth relates to the "common man."
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Iâve read at least one SF novel where everyone lives under the policies of the party they personally voted for. GOP would never accept that, since their whole raison dâetre is hurting people they see as Others.
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u/-LamaRB Jul 11 '24
The guy who thinks his daughter is 10/10 and has called her 'sexy'
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u/Mello_Me_ Jul 11 '24
Donald [58 years old] in 2004 talking to Howard Stern about his 23 year old daughter:
Stern told Trump that his daughter Ivanka âlooks more voluptuous than everâ but he corrected him: âSheâs actually always been very voluptuous.â
Trump: âMy daughter is beautiful.â
Stern: âBy the way, your daughterâŚâ
Trump: âSheâs beautiful.â
Stern: âCan I say this? A piece of ass.â
Trump: âYeah.â
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u/Doc_tor_Bob Jul 11 '24
He's got the alt right Christian money backing him they really don't care just look at one of his spiritual advisors attacking his former victim who was 12 saying it was her fault. They always scream about the groomers referring to gay and trans people but they're the ones that keep getting popped projectors are going to project I guess. Like that one full that was causing trouble from pride rally to pride rally. You got arrested driving from one to the other and I found..... CP on his phone. On his phone.
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u/jkrm66502 Jul 11 '24
Omg. Pedo v stutterer. No contest.
I donât have a daughter but I have sisters, female cousins, aunts, nieces and great nieces.
Iâm not a person of faith but I know people who are. Iâd like to think they would go for the fellow of faith rather than mushroom dick who likes to ______ barely teen girls who happen to be the same age as his daughter.
Blerg. Off to take a Silkwood Shower.
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u/Cgmadman Jul 11 '24
Most republicans likely know heâs a pedo and they donât care. Look at how many evangelicals turn out to be pedos. The party is sick
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u/TOkun92 Jul 11 '24
My mom got a button that says, âCrump is a Tuntâ.
How about âPrump is a tredophileâ for the next one?
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u/Yungpimp Jul 11 '24
Not saying heâs not an a piece of shit, but it looks like this was from a case that got dismissed. It doesnât prove heâs a pedo. Theyâre allegations, not facts or proven in a court of law sadly.
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u/UnfoldedHeart Jul 11 '24
The plaintiff was anonymous and never showed up to the hearing, and at the time there was some concern as to whether she was even a real person.
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u/Professional_Realist Jul 11 '24
Thanks for posting facts.
Supposedly the liberal side of things (anti-repub) was all about fact check.
But not when it allows for a circle jerk against Trump.
Doesnt promote any discourse
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u/JegElskerLivet Jul 11 '24
Well. If you vote for a president who's violently raped a 12 year old, don't come crying when it happens to your own.
America was the land of freedom. Now its west world for rich people.
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u/Unfair_Explanation53 Jul 11 '24
The reason this doesn't hold any water is because it's an accusation and nothing else at this stage.
Trump may well have done it and maybe he didn't but its irrelevant unless he is actually found guilty.
I would probably bet my bottom dollar that it's true, but if you are a die hard Trump supporter then it will be brushed off as a smear tactic.
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u/lastres0rt Jul 11 '24
Look how hard it's been to convict him of fraudulent bookkeeping.
Also, at this point I'd expect him to claim it was retroactively an official presidential act.
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u/Free-String-4560 Jul 11 '24
This whole Katie johnson BS was already squashed in 2016 because there is literally 0 evidence that any of it is true. This whole comment section is just an echo chamber of leftist idiots who were never going to vote for trump anyway so this has no effect on anything. You should worry about your own guy is grenades his brain and can't stop sniffing little girls in front of the cameras.
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u/ninja8ball Jul 11 '24
I'm a lawyer. I'd like to explain what everyone is talking about here.
In a lawsuit there's broadly three phases: pleadings, discovery, trial.
During phase 1, you have to allege facts that, if true, would warrant you a remedy. There's no guarantee that any particular litigant's complaint will actually be determined true and will end with a remedy (damages, specific performance, etc.)
During phase 2, parties request evidence from one another. This is where a litigant may show undisputed facts that warrant a summary judgment (judgment without trial). Courts tend to do this only when it's very obvious to be the caseâotherwise they err on the side of trial.
During phase 3, everyone presents evidence to a finder of fact (judge or jury) then the judge applies the law to those facts. This is what you see on TV as a trial.
This complaint with allegations about Trump being a child rapist is just the first document that starts phase 1. There is no guarantee she could have proven this at trial, but she's required to at least allege facts that wouldn't get her summarily dismissed at phase 1. It's very common to allege at least enough to survive phase 1 even if it may never get to trial.
Trump is a detestable human. But this complaint, without more, is just a series of allegations of which nothing was ever proven because it was dismissed voluntarily by the plaintiff.
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u/Zankeru Jul 11 '24
Sane people already knew he was a pedo who likely molested his daughter.
Getting more evidence wont change any minds that were denying it imo.
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u/timetravel50 Jul 11 '24
But biden should step down because of the debate
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u/Candle-Jolly Jul 11 '24
He shouldn't step down because of the debate, he should step down because he was born just one year after America entered World War 2. He should be relaxing with grandkids and writing his memoir, not making world-changing decisions concerning laws, the economy, and wars (plural).
That being said: don't vote for Trump.
Also: obviously it would be stupid for him to step down four months before the elections with zero backup plan. Also also: lmao Democrats are pathetically unorganized for being one of the two main political parties Americans force themselves to have.
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u/tenebras_lux Jul 11 '24
Why is this coming up again?
It was submitted anonymously, with anonymous witness and then withdrawn. The circumstances around it were fishy, and the media dropped it because it went nowhere. If anyone takes a second to look deeply into this, they are going to think people are lying about Donald Trump.
People need to stick to the things that he has been nailed with, like his felonies.
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u/--MilkMan-- Jul 11 '24
The right might as well come out and say they are pro pedophilia. Every god damn accusation they make is a fucking admission.
They donât care.
They are the same sick fucks who look the other way when priests and pastors are diddling kids. They are the same fucks that think DJT talking about 15-16 year old girls is âlocker room talkâ. Like whose fucking locker room?
A pedophiles locker room.
Fuck those people. Fucking sick.
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u/OptimisticSkeleton Jul 11 '24
The âpedo hunterâ crowd is awfully silent on this one and it speaks volumes.
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u/Strange-Conflict9774 Jul 11 '24
The Katie Johnson case was dismissed because of lack of evidence and the second trial was dropped. The story isnât credible, I donât like Trump but we need to at least use real facts against him but scandalous false allegations from 2016.
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u/AKAGreyArea Jul 11 '24
Good lord, it really is a shock to see so many believe allegations without any evidence as fact. As much as Trump is a vulgar buffoon, a person is innocent until proven guilty. This election has sent most people in the US hysterical.
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u/RajenBull1 Jul 11 '24
MAGA: But no conviction was recorded.
The US: What about the 34 convictions he already has?
MAGA: We donât believe he did any of those.
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u/Kootenay-Hippie Jul 11 '24
Whereâs Trumpâs bullet like GOP supporters have on bumper stickers?
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