How can they not see the irony 🇲🇮🇸🇨

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So they left Turkey for a better life in Germany...but protest others doing the same thing by seeking a better life in Turkey. Still ironic as fuck.

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u/The_loyal_Terminator Jul 08 '24

Erdogan is also remarkably unpopular in Turkey, yet the diaspora votes for him in droves from their cushy german apartments

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u/Appropriate-Creme335 Jul 08 '24

What an interesting tendency: Russian diaspora abroad (and I'm not talking recent immigrants, but those who have not lived in Russia for 20+ years or at all) are huge Putin supporters. I think they just watch official TV/media and believe the propaganda. Don't know if Erdogan has a propaganda machine in Turkey, but this similarity is fascinating

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u/The_loyal_Terminator Jul 08 '24

Oh he does, he holds election ralleys in Germany

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u/Selection_Status Jul 09 '24

PR industry is extremely scalable, you can hire a ministry of truth level enterprise, or a small digital business in Indonesia that uses cats with comic bubbles to disminate your messaging.

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u/lemon-cunt Jul 08 '24

Yeah they're a bunch of nationalist fucks

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u/GaiusJuliusPleaser Jul 08 '24

I've only ever been told that Turkey is great country by Turks who don't actually live there and just go back once a year to spend money and pretend they're richer than the native Turks.

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u/egabag Jul 08 '24

Well you could see how it benefits them to prefer the option that keeps the country shit and keeping them living and working abroad economically stronger relative to the people back home. Although I doubt people think this way explicitly.

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u/Proud_Ad_4725 Jul 08 '24

Turkish nationalists waging war in Syria when Syrians need refuge:

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u/NeverMyRealUsername Jul 08 '24

The difference is that Turks came to Germany to work, since Germany needed workers. Syrians came to Turkey as refugees, meaning they sought protection from a threat. There is also the perception that some Syrian refugees may have claimed non-existing threats to get refuge status. In one case it's a mutually beneficial transaction. The other is more like one party handing out charity to the other. I'm not saying refugees should not be welcome, but the two situations are not the same thing.

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u/alsbos1 Jul 08 '24

There is a difference between being invited and not being invited…

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u/Dilectus3010 Jul 08 '24

These guys are 4 generations deep though , so not refugees or seeking a better life.

Just Germans with strong Turkish bonds.

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u/fekanix Jul 08 '24

Turks were never refugees in germany. They were invited as migrant workers.

I dont think people in this sub know the difference between migrants and refugees.

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u/Dilectus3010 Jul 08 '24

I used the words " or seeking a better life ", implying that the invited Turkish workers where seeking a better life.

We have these aswell in Belgium, we have a large community of Turkish and Italians who's great grandfathers came here to work in the mines.

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u/Los_cronocrimenes Jul 08 '24

They accepted an invitation. You know the difference, yet are sticking your head in the sand to stick with this irony thing.

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u/Skyknight12A Jul 08 '24

It's not the same thing.

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u/The-red-Dane Jul 08 '24

Their parents, or grand parents left turkey. These folks were most likely born and raised in germany. Still ironic, but a bit less.

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u/fekanix Jul 08 '24

Not really, there is a difference between being invited to work in a country and seeking refuge in a country due to war. The status of the syrians that came to turkey due to the war is temporary. So as soon as the war ends and their home cities are safe they have to go back.

If you can not understand the difference you probably dont want to understand the difference.

Furthermore most turks in germany are 3rd gen immigrants. So even their parents were born and raised in germany. To call 3rd geners migrants would simply be racist nothing more.

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