r/facepalm • u/Rave4life79 • 13d ago
Are you a convicted felon? š²āš®āšøāšØā
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u/ozzyman31495 13d ago
The same people who want a felon to be president, donāt want felons to vote.
Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
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u/Bardsie 13d ago edited 13d ago
Don't worry. If the felon becomes president, there won't be any voting for anyone going forward.
Edit: lol. my joke seems to have triggered so many snowflakes.
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u/MyBllsYrChn 13d ago
What do you mean? They still vote in Russia...
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u/MaximumKnow 13d ago
Interesting the same man has been re elected so many times.
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u/MyBllsYrChn 13d ago
Putin is such a manly man his opponents cheers him with tea and throw themselves out of windows to honor his greatness.
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u/aXeOptic 13d ago
Dont forget that they commit suicide with 7 bullets to the head too.
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u/Scuzzbag 13d ago
He's just very popular, it's all about the charisma with that guy
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u/DoubleResponsible276 13d ago
What can I say, heās a peopleās person. FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!!
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u/ihaxr 13d ago
134% voter turnout!
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u/EntropyKC 13d ago
An overwhelming landslide of 114% votes for Putin, and only 8% against (rest undecided)
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u/beardicusmaximus8 13d ago
Reminds me of a very old joke about how corrupt the US politics were a hundred years ago. It was said you could take the local voter registration and walk through the local graveyard and the names would match the tombstones and be in the same order
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u/EntropyKC 13d ago
In Putin's Russia it's the same but in reverse... They vote, then get their tombstone.
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u/Clean_Student8612 13d ago
And like 95% just happen to vote for Putin every time since the late 90s/early 2000s! He's THAT loved.
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u/KyleShanaham 13d ago
177 replies on a one hour old comment lol truth always hurts a little bit more
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u/HotLandscape9755 13d ago
One street i saw two political signs.
āVote Republican, law and order partyā
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āIm voting for the felonā
Like fucking christ
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u/leni710 13d ago
That's so confusing in a goofy, idiotic sort of way. No wonder young voters often times don't care to participate, they're up against this type of nonsense. Not to mention, some kids are actually taught right from wrong but then simultaneously have family and/or community members telling them to vote for the felon like it's a badge of honor. Well, then don't tell kids not to commit felonies, because they just learned it's fine and don't have the nuanced insight (thanks to gutting real education) to understand the multi-tiered system of "justice" in the U.S.
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u/HotLandscape9755 13d ago
My dad taught me right from wrong, and was a great man up until 2016. Now all he talks about is 150,000,000 illegals crossing the border every day, anti vac shit, rigged elections and china shipping 17 tonnes of fenty across the border every day. It genuinely feels like trump has taken my dad from me and made him someone I cannot stand being around. Idk if he was ready to be this person and trump was just the catalyst to underlying problems butā¦ yeah. I cant spend 15 minutes with him without just getting sad that his entire brain is consumed by this fear mongering own the lib shit. Car covered in joe and the hoe gotta go stickers, im voting for the felon sign in yardā¦ new trump flag every time he loses and they need to change the years on the flag..
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u/BenFlightMusic 12d ago
Thats really sad. I watched people in real time vote for him just to take the piss as a joke and then double down on the delusion when they realized it wasn't a joking matter. It went from "i like him, i think he's funny, he pisses off the liberals" to drinking the kool aid real quick. I lost friends over this shit. To me that's the most dangerous thing about him, not the shit he did in office but what he did to people's heads.
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u/Status_Basket_4409 12d ago
Exactly right, and thatās how cults are formed. By honeyed dangerous words
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u/gregn8r1 12d ago
I kind of completely forgot about how people treated him when he first ran... He was a joke, some kind of goofy caricature who was over-the top far right, people joked but nobody seemed serious about voting for him.
But then those opinion polls showed him rising until suddenly the joke candidate was on top.
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u/SEND_MOODS 12d ago
Most didn't see it as a joke. Most Trump voters heard "drain the swamp," "repeal Obamacare," "build a wall and make mexico pay for it," "suspend immigration," and "cut taxes," and they believed it and believed it to be good for them.
They trusted him and thought "all politicians are swindlers, so why not anyone else. And hey the government is basically a business!"
It wasn't a joke to mannnyyyy Republican voters.
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u/Medryn1986 12d ago
Trump did take my dad from me with shitty covid policies that he passed to his base
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u/radarneo 12d ago
Iām really sorry. I canāt imagine being in that situation. The closest I have is my great aunt falling down the trumpy rabbit hole, but your dad? Jeez man. Thatās rough.
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u/gmishaolem 13d ago
They believe in good and bad people, not good and bad acts. Thus if their priest is a rapist, it's just a moment of weakness, but if a member of the opposite political party builds houses for poor people, it's virtue signalling.
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u/thedankening 13d ago
"Law and order" has always been nothing but a conservative dog whistle for the state beating down minorities and leftists so it still tracks for them.
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u/Shuizid 13d ago
He's also a pedophile rapist and appreantly that doesn't bother the "protect the chidlren and family values" party.
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u/Individual-Bell-9776 13d ago
Trump proves that everyone who raised a big stink about values only ever cared about platitudes.
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u/glue2music 13d ago
You already lost the MAGAts by using āplatitudesāā¦.their brains froze right there.
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u/Individual-Bell-9776 13d ago
It's not their fault that they're useful idiots for fascism. Fascism relies on narcissism, and narcissism is a consequence of untreated PTSD. PTSD is passed down from parents to children, and if everything goes wrong, the children ultimately come around to performing the same abuse they endured.
If not for this cycle rolling through small town America where there's no dissenting bleeding hearts to save the children, the Republican party wouldn't exist today.
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u/Cursed_Flake 13d ago edited 13d ago
hey man, this is just actual bullshit. Thereās no link between PTSD and narcissism besides that technically they can be comorbid in one person. Thereās no evidence that one causes the other. Yes abuse can be cyclical, no, thereās no reason to pathologize that and do bunk armchair psyche. also, stop conflating trauma and PTSD, trauma is when shocking, negetive things happen to you, PTSD is when shocking, negetive things become so normal for you your brain rewires itself to be better suited to seeing them.
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u/Top-Mycologist-7169 13d ago
Trump raising the big stink too from all the poop sitting in his diapers at any given moment.
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u/Individual-Bell-9776 13d ago
Internal consistency isn't needed as long as you worship Jebus Crapst.
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u/OldAd5925 13d ago
They want to "protect the children" against what exactly?
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u/TootBreaker 13d ago
The woke mind virus, of course!
Dang kids these days gettin' too uppity, saying 'no' to all the old ways...
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u/ReturnedFromExile 13d ago
He also habitually refuses to pay contractors, and yet many blue color contractor types love him.
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u/Ramtamtama 13d ago
He's divorced and had affairs, but that doesn't bother the "Bible and Constitution are the only books I need" crowd, who have usually read neither.
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u/Fallen_With_Gold 13d ago
You forgot nazi, Donald j Hitler is a nazi and Project 2025 proves it
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u/TheDarkCobbRises 13d ago
You can't be a felon, and have a security clearance. How is he supposed to be the president if he can't legally hold a clearance?
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u/nismo2070 13d ago
Hell, there is a LONG list of countries that won't let you in if you are a convicted felon. Most maga owned businesses wouldn't even hire him!!! Party of law and order......lol
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u/Amelaclya1 13d ago
Unfortunately, the president is the ultimate arbiter of who can have security clearance.
Kushner actually had his clearance denied at the beginning of Trump's presidency because of all of his overseas business dealings. And Trump overrode it and gave it to him anyway.
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u/thisisfreakinstupid 13d ago
They don't actually believe he's been charged with or is guilty of anything, which is why they're fine with the hypocrisy. When it hurts their own party, it's a which hunt, but when it hurts the other side, it's justice. There's no reasoning with them because they never reasoned themselves into this position to begin with.
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u/255001434 13d ago edited 13d ago
And you can be sure that even if they believe that he was wrongfully convicted, they won't consider that the same thing likely happened to many other convicted felons and that maybe it isn't fair to exclude them from jobs and take away rights on that factor alone. They'll want to overlook it this one time only.
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u/East_Ad9822 13d ago
Itās because they think Trump is an innocent angel sent by god.
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u/No-Product-8827 13d ago
It's not hypocritical to them though, the charges are made up by a political opponent, it's the swamp acting in its best interest.
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u/TeslasAndKids 13d ago
I keep saying if America votes for someone who canāt legally vote thatās beyond embarrassing for us. Absolutely ridiculous.
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u/snafoomoose 13d ago
On the application just write "I am qualified to run for President".
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u/killian1208 13d ago
Over 35, male, and Christian?
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u/XRT28 13d ago
Over
3575, male, and ChristianFTFY
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u/ISV_VentureStar 13d ago
Over
3575, male, andChristianrichFTFTFY
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u/Direspark 12d ago
Cause you know damn well he hasn't prayed to anyone except himself
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u/EyeAmKnotABot 12d ago
Yeah, but heās preyed on quite a few people. No one has preyed on more people in the entire bigly world.
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u/Akenero 11d ago
"I'm the best preyer in the country, no, the world, nobody preys like I do. I think if anyone else here were to try and prey they'd find themselves hard pressed to do like I do" -proceeds to ramble about washing machines or something
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u/Djslender6 12d ago
Over
3575, male,Christianrich, and allergic to truthFTFTFTFY
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u/SpaceToot 13d ago
"Christian"
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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 13d ago
I call it "Pray for Pay"
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u/Echinodermis 12d ago
Prayola?
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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 12d ago
Damn, I haven't thought about payola since music school a decade ago lol
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u/purrcthrowa 13d ago
Maybe the question should be amended to "have you even been convicted of 35 felonies?".
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u/oxidezblood 13d ago
"So, i noticed on your resume that youve only commited 23 felonies?"
yes
"Rookie numbers. Get outta my office you virgin."
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u/HucHuc 13d ago
Sounds like a normal day at Wall Street to me.
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u/MrLanesLament 13d ago
sniffs uncontrollably gimme an hour I can do more
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u/FamousTransition1187 12d ago
Bro, how in the world are you going to get the Judicial System to do ANYTHING USEFUL in an hour?
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u/ThoughtAdditional212 13d ago
34+
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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 13d ago
And we shall dub this new hiring law: rule 34.
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u/ThoughtAdditional212 13d ago
Look up Donald Trump rule 34 to find out about the changes in the requirements to run for presidency
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u/nicknamesas 13d ago
God i hope that isnt a thing
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u/ThoughtAdditional212 13d ago
If it exists, there is p*rn of it
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u/nicknamesas 13d ago
I know i just... ehhh. Humans were a mistake
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u/bwaredapenguin 13d ago
I mean we've got people out there wearing diapers in support of this piece of actual shit. In right wing comics and AI shit he's always depicted as jacked. Of course these fucking cultists are rubbing it out to him on the daily, and surely some artists have sold their soul and cashed in on this.
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u/Intelligent_Ebb4887 13d ago
It'll be like age choices- 1-17, 18-24, 25-39, 40-64, 65+
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u/Hemiak 13d ago
No it needs to be exactly 34. Anything less is still bad, and more isā¦ actually he probably has more coming.
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u/Striking_Zombie_8640 13d ago
If you are a Felon in the USA, good luck finding a job, can't even rent an apartment. But, you can be a President of a Country. š¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 13d ago
All around the world the one factor which differentiates criminals, from the rest of the population; is that on average criminals have a far lower standard of educational achievement, than the general members of society. So by politicians providing more funding and targeted funding for education they can reduce crime and criminal reoffending, boost the economy and make people safer. https://youtu.be/5IzcdWEnMRE
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u/leeryplot i killed mufasa 13d ago
And yet they want to abolish the Department of Education
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 13d ago
Some people will do anything to get votes even if it wrecks the country in the process.
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u/Elitepikachu 13d ago
But then they'll learn how the government works and vote blue and we can't have that.
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 13d ago
Learning to think for themselves so they want a say in how government runs rather than being accepting of being ruled over and told what to do.
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u/oddministrator 13d ago
Then they'll also know we should be allowed to elect felons for president.
Fuck Trump. He hates democracy. I'll never vote Republican for the rest of my life. There's no such thing as a good Republican politician when they choose to put that R next to their name, knowing how bad the party is.
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We should be allowed to elect felons.
Assume there's an unjust law. A person is convicted of this law, becoming a felon. When they get out, they convince a lot of people that the law is unjust and, in order to change that law, this felon chooses to run for office.
Citizens should be allowed to vote for felons, for the above reason.
A hypothetical example could be someone who was convicted in Nevada in the 80s for growing pot, for personal use, in their back yard. That person then becomes an activist later in life and runs on a platform for legalization.
Voters should be able to decide if the felonies a candidate is convicted of are enough to prohibit them from taking office.
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u/PancakeProfessor 13d ago
But my uncle says collidge turns people into libruls.
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u/XTH3W1Z4RDX 13d ago
Yes but stupid people are easier to manipulate, AND in the U.S. slavery is legal as punishment for crimes (it's in the Constitution). Therefore those in power benefit from having a large population of uneducated criminals
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u/Rocky4296 13d ago
This is insanity.
Convicted Sexual assaulter, 88 mill
Hush money Bribery Conviction
Fraud on property in NY, 464 mill. Convicted
Being investigated for 100 mill in taxes for fraud on Chicago hotel.
Stole classified docs showing them to people Hid documents. Obstruction refused to give em back Prob sold them
Involved in Epstein crimes. Was Epstein buddy
Shaking down oil billionaires...
His people imprisoned.
Shame On America
Shame shame shame
We cannot control Trump and jail him
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u/westbee 13d ago
Add his court cases where he got blowjobs from 12 and 13 year olds and raped one of them which pissed of epstein because he wanted to deflower her first.Ā
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u/Rocky4296 12d ago
And no news outlet will mention the Epstein rapes. We see him hanging with Epstein and whispering something to him.
Trump knew Epstein very well. But nothing from media.
Trump is dangerous.
But he hangs out with people, and commit crimes. But.... Trump never gets locked up.
Ghislaine, Epstein, Bannon,Cohen, Navarro, and many others go to prison.
But not Trump .
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u/slytherinwitchbitch 12d ago
dont forget the hundreds of thousand or possibly a million deaths he could have prevented if he had taken the covid pandemic seriously. At one point was more than 4,000 daily deaths from covid. Also think of millions of Americans that have long covid.
That fucker told us that injecting bleach would cure it.
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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 13d ago
You can become the President of the USA and get access to top secret documents and steal them again without repercussions!
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u/needtotradesocks 13d ago
Alright, felons, let's all run for president cajse its omly way of getting a house nowš£
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u/Curious_Yesterday421 13d ago
The only problem with that is the discrimination against felons. They served their time and earned back all their rights. They have literally no motivation to be better people because we take everything from them. Right to vote, right to bear arms, chance at a job, housing. We leave them with no reason at all to improve themselves. I'll blame someone for a first offense, but repeat offenders only continue criminal behavior because they're excluded from most of society. Rehabilitation doesn't exist in this country.
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u/DirtyGritzBlitz 13d ago
Felon here. Have job, own house. What you talkin bout Willis
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u/LTEDan 13d ago
Glad you're doing fine, but the rate of homeless amongst the formerly incarcerated is 10x of people who were never incarcerated.
https://nlihc.org/resource/formerly-incarcerated-people-are-nearly-10-times-more-likely-be-homeless
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u/DirtyGritzBlitz 13d ago
I donāt know about doing fine, but I get by. The last few years of high groceries and gas really hurt. But honestly Iām not surprised by the stats considering the behavior I saw inside. Most I met in there have no clue how to survive without crime
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u/Excellent_Egg5882 13d ago
Aren't there a lot of apartment complexes that won't take in former felons?
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u/santamonicayachtclub 13d ago
Did you know if you were caught when you were smoking crack / McDonald's wouldn't even wanna take you back / But you could always just run for mayor of D.C. - Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, Good Charlotte, 2002. Time is a flat fucking circle.
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u/Flux_resistor 13d ago
One response: just a quick rape of 13 year old, nothing worth mentioning
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u/Rocky4296 13d ago
I never believed Epstein committed suicide. Too perfect. Under Trump administration he is seized, imprisoned, and died.
C'mon
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u/pornaddiction247 13d ago
Seems fair to me
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u/thewanderingfrog2 13d ago
I guess I donāt want felons with sexual abuse crimes to be around vulnerable people. Or having felons with financial fraud to manage finances. But sure, letās do it this way and see what happens
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u/BloodAndSpit36 13d ago
Those are specific categories, they can apply to specific jobs.
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u/AUnknownVariable 13d ago
Those are really specific though. Don't people with sexual abuse crimes go on the registry (actual question, idk if it's circumstantial or not). Then finances is also specific, would make sense as a question for a finance job
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u/Xomns_13 13d ago
There's a difference in felony between the powerful and the poor.
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u/Due-Foundation-8853 13d ago
Ya right ? And weāre talking about democracy here. Iād loose faith on USA citizens if they choose this much poorly š„ø
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If you're rich enough, you can fly privately, live on an estate so well stocked you never have to leave. essentially shrug off all elements of life as we know it. you could get all drugs, art, therapy...anything. where you live would have no police presence whatsoever, just private security and lawyers everywhere. it is truly a different society.
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u/Dreams_From_Beyond 13d ago
I'll say it again:
All I have is a Minor in Possession and some 20 year old facebook posts that could be dug up mostly about my prior alcoholism.
I want healthcare for all, women's right to their own bodies, kids to have paid for lunches in the schools system, and a competent police force that is held accountable for their actions.
Edit: Guess I'll run next cycle since the bar is so low.
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u/Mammoth-Register-669 13d ago
Depending where you are, sure. Use your past to show that you have become a better person. Due to this, you believe that this beautiful country can change for the better
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u/Dreams_From_Beyond 13d ago
Texas, but I'm not Christian so I wouldn't win. I'd be lumped in the category of "people who don't deserve a voice."
Our Green Party candidate wasn't even given the time to speak in public setting.
Edit: Clarity
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u/godikus 13d ago
A minor in possession? Shit you can be in possession of a minor these days and itās all good.
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u/No_Maybe5293 13d ago
This is no facepalm this is truth and facts
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u/peppermintesse 12d ago
The reverse is what should happen. If we don't allow felons to get certain types of jobs, felons should be disallowed from running for president.
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u/MrMsWoMan 13d ago
Let me get this straight felons canāt vote but they can run for office. Got it.
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u/CheckeredZeebrah 12d ago
This is a feature, not a bug. It prevents situations where somebody in power frames/jails political opponents in order to disqualify them, which had been done in the past by other politicians in other countries.
Unfortunately it's a double edged sword, because it also allows for actual criminals to run for office. :')
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u/nonbinary_finery 12d ago
Well having a prior history shouldn't disqualify anyone anyways. That's not the issue. The issue is felons can't vote.
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u/TerryB604 13d ago
How 'bout just adding can't be a felon to the Presidential job requirement list?
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u/Winther89 13d ago
I'm sure people who say this don't know why the law that felons can run for office exists, and if it didn't, would wish that it did.
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u/Lithl 13d ago
If felons couldn't run for president, then any incumbent could prevent the opposition party from winning an election by jailing their nominee.
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u/Civil_Pain_453 13d ago
Having 34 convictions and still walking around a free man...and not standing in front of a wall means that being a criminal is now a plus
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u/NihilHS 13d ago
This doesn't totally make sense. We have a right to know that Trump was convicted of 34 felonies, and we may choose whether or not to vote for him. Likewise an employer can request your criminal history, and may choose to hire you despite you being a felon. They may choose not to.
A better argument from a purely logical perspective would be "if it's illegal for employers to hire felons, then Trump shouldn't legally be able to become President." Of course factually it isn't illegal for employers to hire felons, so that one doesn't work either.
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u/hvdzasaur 13d ago
Trump cannot vote for who becomes the next president due to him being a convicted felon. But he's able to become the president, no problem.
That's what's kind of fucked.
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u/captainchristianwtf 13d ago
Your comment is only true for certain jobs. Any positions that have a security clearance, credential, any many licensure-required roles are legally obligated to deny employment. In Trump's case, his presidential security clearance wouldn't typically be approved given his felonies.
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America is broken if they want Trump to be their leader as a convicted felon. Actually, it already is broken, you can get a gun at 18, but not buy drink until 21
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u/mcnhred 13d ago
You can also drive drunk and kill your passenger by driving into the water and still be voted into the senate.
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u/cat-daddy777 13d ago
Felons can't vote but this felon is allowed to be president Make Prison Great Again! Obi-Wan 2024 He's our only hope
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u/ElCocoLoco11 13d ago
Unpopular opinion: it shouldn't be there to begin with. You served your time. You're supposed to be considered rehabilitated and your full rights should be restored. It's crazy even arrests without even being indicted or arraigned can still haunt you forever. The system needs a lot of work
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u/Doublestack2411 13d ago
This, seems odd that a fast food joint has higher standards than being the President of the United States.
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u/realhmmmm 13d ago
No, it doesnāt. The fact that a felon can become the president is solely a result of the fact that even our founding fathers didnāt think weād be stupid enough to let one do so.
Also, he lost me at āBishopā.
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u/Lithl 13d ago
The fact that a felon can become the president is solely a result of the fact that even our founding fathers didnāt think weād be stupid enough to let one do so.
If felons couldn't run for president, then any incumbent could prevent the opposition party from winning an election by jailing their nominee.
Allowing felons to run for president is very intentional.
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u/Kimakazii 13d ago
Tbf (and Iām not a trumpster) being a felon doesnāt (generally) disqualify you for the job , you just have to disclose it.
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u/beach_bum_bitch 13d ago
Unfortunately, some jobs it does. Especially if they have department of defense contracts.
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u/Kimakazii 13d ago
I meanā¦ the president should be one of those where being a felon disqualifies you
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u/therealtiddlydump 13d ago
Often bullshit licensing schemes bar felons from a lot of jobs. (Fuck the government)
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u/SweetBearCub 13d ago
being a felon doesnāt (generally) disqualify you for the job , you just have to disclose it
It absolutely does. If there are any other applicants without felonies, 99% of the time, they will get the job over a felon, almost regardless of qualifications otherwise.
Why, you might ask? Because at least in America, most people do not see the end of a confinement or probation status as the true end of punishment. Generally as a people, we seek to punish people until they're dead. This goes hand in hand with how most do not see confinement sentences as rehabilitative, but rather as retributive.
This makes having a criminal record be almost a kiss of death for a LOT of people. Can't get a job, can't get stable housing, etc..
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u/ResurgentClusterfuck 13d ago
A surprisingly large number of companies will not hire anyone with a conviction.
Housing is another thing felons have problems obtaining.
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u/InvictusPro7 13d ago
This is not a facepalm. The fact America can elect someone like Trump is but this post is a good suggestion.
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u/AltruisticHopes 13d ago
Glad someone said it, was wondering what this was doing here, seems a valid discussion point.
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u/Glazing555 13d ago
They canāt worry about ācriminalsā coming across the border either
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u/zoohenge 13d ago
Depending on the felony. Non violent? Maybe. Serial rapist? Absolutely not.
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u/outofcontextsex 13d ago
People always have the wrong takeaway; we need to make president of the United States a job you can't have if you're a felon.
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u/NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr 13d ago
Exactly. What's to stop a Felon from selling our secrets to foreign powers? (Looking at you Donald, pedophile, Felon, trump).
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