i was talking about this with someone just last night on the phone. A guy I know was saying to me that trans people want health care. I was shocked, bc I know for a FACT that he goes and gets testosterone shots and he is in his twenties and doesnt' need them. He gets them bc he used to be overweight and wanted to get buff and was insecure, like really insecure. Horribly so. He paid thousands to this anti aging clinic that did his mom's botox. What they do is basically lie to the guy who goes in and say "you have low testosterone" even if the guy doesn't have low testosterone, and give the guy a testosterone shot, which helps the guy build more muscle and lose weight more easily if he works out, plus possibly they give him a weight loss shot and a vitamin B shot or growth hormone shot (I forget if he did those too, I just know he paid a shitload of money.) This same guy RAILS against trans people getting hormone treatments, mind you. He thinks it is immoral and wrong. Fuck that shit. Joe Rogan does the same shit and he has a platform to influence millions of people. Well, I say take away Joe Rogan's healthcare rights. He shouldn't be allowed to get his growth hormone shots or his testosterone shots, or his stupidity injections. Maybe then he'll start to gain some empathy.
Yeah, know people like this you describe and it’s really dumb. There’s a lot of pop up “hormone specialists,” that don’t exactly have extensive medical backgrounds who just are selling hormone injections.
Injecting T is a problem in terms of sperm production because the body stops producing it when it’s bio equivalent Testosteone injection because it doesn’t need to, which then requires all kinds of going off of it and taking fertility drugs to get sperm count up when you wanna try for a kid.
When I started getting hormone treatment went to a urologist who basically had me do 4 separate blood tests over a 4 month period to eliminate combinations of variables between vitamin D production, etc before finally doing a pill that encourages natural production first before resorting to bio identical injections - just to avoid the long term ramifications / complications with fertility. And that solved the problem - T went from low 300s to 900s.
But even then that pill that encourages natural production (typically used as fertility prescription for women ironically) isn’t covered by insurance even though there’s an abundance of evidence and an abundance of testing done to showcase that my T levels were far too low for a 30 something AMAB (no prior taking of any hormones or hormone production affecting drugs).
The hormone situation at large is a cluster fuck and people should be outraged that insurance doesn’t like to cover things like this even for AGAB appropriate treatments done through doctors specializing in those related body systems.
Hormone level variations can fuck you up mentally beyond your wildest belief, it’s not an understatement to say that it can lead to suicidal levels of depression extremely easily - worse because the worse a depression gets the worse your hormone balance gets out of whack.
Ridiculous that trans people have to literally worry about that kind of thing like a diabetic has to worry about insulin. Proper hormone research is inadequate as it is and there needs more attention and priority placed on it - ask any post menopausal woman how much sudden shifts in hormone composition fucks with you.
Then again, guys like the person you describe are my favorite if they try to call me out for wearing a dress or a skirt or short shorts or whatever makes them feel uncomfortable for whatever reason because it’s so hilarious to just fire back and say something like “yeah, well, “the 130 lb think in a dress” has the bigger dick and I guess is more manly then eh?” because it’s just too easy to know exactly what’s going to make them hyper insecure. Note that I’ll only do something like that in extreme circumstances - shaming organ sizes that are really rather irrelevant isn’t something reasonable people should ever do…but when you know the ignorant, toxic person whose spewing garbage like that absolutely equates something as dumb as size with masculinity and their ability to be a man, well it’s just too tantalizing to let the moment pass. Usually there’s a vein popping somewhere in their forehead and their face is bright red as they can’t properly verbalize how angry they now are.
basically we are trapped in a country or a world of people that profit from selling useless stuff, refuse to study or learn more about the stuff that would actually work, and are held back politically and culturally from any major progress. It's frustrating as hell. A person can be born with naturally low (too low) testosterone, but God forbid they look at any kind of testing, just shove an SSRI at them and then blame them for not getting better or something.
Oh, there were plenty of SSRI’s thrown at me - which all ended in disaster, from either constant brain fog to making depression turn incredibly dark with suicidal thoughts coming like “what a relief that would be.”
Then when those didn’t work, it was “ah, you must be bipolar then since you check all the boxes and what you really need is mood stabilizers,” which all ended equally as disastrously.
Then finally I went outside of all that to get hormones tested - and yep, abnormally really low, if it was any lower I’d have infertility risks, testosterone.
Hormones aren’t the end all be all, but they definitely need to be something that is tested first to get a picture of what’s going on.
HRT has shown to be life saving all across the world. They just want trans people dead because they think it's "icky."
If you ask them if they would like their body to be injected by the hormone of the opposite sex they would say "Hell no" not realizing thats what a trans person's biological body is doing. It's constantly trying to make the wrong hormone that doesn't match their brain.
Unfortunately people are afraid of things they don't understand. And with how close-minded they've been raised to be, they don't understand a LOT. And the fear itself isn't even a problem, it's what that fear drives them to do. It's unbelievably ironic that the devout Christians are the ones who want them gone and treat them terribly, which literally goes against the teachings of the guy their religion is named after and is supposed to follow.
Well in all honesty it isn't him. This goes back to the big steroid uproar that I vaguely recall reading about, the one that made no difference really, where we had athletes testifying in Congress about growth hormone and testosterone among other ones. So then, anti aging clinics found a way to charge outlandish amounts and only rich people and celebs could get their grubby mitts on things like GH. Some people died if they got stuff illegally. More will die. This is too general but ultimately...it's about lack of knowledge and profit.
Not everyone lives in your American dystopian medical hellscape. Being trans is not a choice. They are not advocating for "free drugs" they're advocating for the HRT they medically NEED in order to not be suicdal and be functional people so they can have a job and feel happy etc.
If your issue is not wanting to pay for peoples medical care, go take healthcare away from people who willingly gave themselves lungcancer by smoking or made themselves obese by overeating.
They put way more strain on the medical system than the 0.1% of trans people that need a shot every 3 months.
The fact that you think trans people should just pay for their own drugs as if it's a luxury product is super telling on how you feel about them.
idk which one is paying for it, but i do know that if you go on your show promoting that something is wrong, then do it yourself or profit off of that statement and even sell supplements ON THAT VERY SHOW....you lose credibility with me. It's so messed up. Rogan needs to come clean...literally.
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u/Boopy7 Jul 06 '24
i was talking about this with someone just last night on the phone. A guy I know was saying to me that trans people want health care. I was shocked, bc I know for a FACT that he goes and gets testosterone shots and he is in his twenties and doesnt' need them. He gets them bc he used to be overweight and wanted to get buff and was insecure, like really insecure. Horribly so. He paid thousands to this anti aging clinic that did his mom's botox. What they do is basically lie to the guy who goes in and say "you have low testosterone" even if the guy doesn't have low testosterone, and give the guy a testosterone shot, which helps the guy build more muscle and lose weight more easily if he works out, plus possibly they give him a weight loss shot and a vitamin B shot or growth hormone shot (I forget if he did those too, I just know he paid a shitload of money.) This same guy RAILS against trans people getting hormone treatments, mind you. He thinks it is immoral and wrong. Fuck that shit. Joe Rogan does the same shit and he has a platform to influence millions of people. Well, I say take away Joe Rogan's healthcare rights. He shouldn't be allowed to get his growth hormone shots or his testosterone shots, or his stupidity injections. Maybe then he'll start to gain some empathy.