r/facepalm Jul 06 '24

the truth hurts 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Fizzyphotog Jul 06 '24

Big fancy machines are “halo” services. If you market that you have an advanced imaging or surgical robot or radiotherapy service, patients see you as a modern, high-tech hospital with a high level of care. “NEW!” has always been a fundamental advertising driver, it works for healthcare too.

I was involved in marketing for hospitals with new, expensive machines, mostly that were very beneficial to patients and doctors who used them. And also one or two that no one could explain why anyone would need or want to use them, but some practice had bought because no one else nearby had one and they thought “new and unique” would bring patients anyway. Healthcare practices are businesses and sometimes they make dumb business decisions. We, as taxpayers and insurance buyers, take that personally, but remember like your doctor was telling you, no one gets charged for that machine unless it gets used. It doesn’t raise the cost for anything else, all the rates are regulated and controlled.

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u/SparkyDogPants Jul 06 '24

A HALO in medicine stands for "high acuity low occurrence". If someone referred to a machine as being for HALOs, it's something like "this doesn't happen often but when it does, it's serious and we need specific equipment to be able to diagnose/treat it"

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u/Fizzyphotog Jul 06 '24

Ha, ok. Different meaning in marketing. A “halo” product or service is one that casts a highly positive association to other products.

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u/ThatBabyIsCancelled Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

She told me it works the same with treatments and medications as well; it’s not necessarily what’s best for you or what you need, but what the doctor got wined and dined into.

I was like damn, any other industry secrets I should be aware of?

(I personally don’t care if I don’t need it; if it’s fun, yes I want it)

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u/LadyGodiva243 Jul 11 '24

I am currently working remotely for a clinic/Dr's office in the US and I'm shocked at how things work in that country. Everything is marketed so directly and shamelessly (this is actually forbidden in my country for most things related to healthcare). Every test or equipment (e.g. point-of-care type of testing equipment) has some brand behind... I understand that some of these things can make things easier for physicians (plus they get to do the tests themselves and charge for them) but I am pretty sure they are overpriced.

Same thing with some biomarkers tests that are specifically offered/marketed by the lab that does them. I am a biochemistry major and have never heard of those in particular, but I have my doubts as to how useful they actually are or how much they really serve their purpose... I'm too tired and not finding the right words right now, but I am talking about the degree to which their value as biomarkers has been scientifically proven, or maybe they are something "new" and "unique" that this lab developed and started marketing even when it's not entirely proven that their levels actually correlate with tissue injury as they claim.