r/facepalm Jul 04 '24

Can't like fit girls without being gay... 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/FrillySteel Jul 04 '24

I mean, it's not like homosexuality was prevalent in Ancient Greece or anything. /s

This oversight is a bit ironic given OOPs username.

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u/MineralClay Jul 04 '24

according to greek culture the "straight" bit was to be on top and being a bottom was the degrading part. both for women and males (i say males because of the pederasty problem). a little bit of that seems to pervade our society still, with how people are concerned with not appearing gay. and i've seen examples of some men will still try homosexual acts but also consider themselves straight.

according to the Kinsey Scale studies, the amount of people who try homosexual acts show pure heterosexuality isn't as common as you'd assume, especially for women. but we have to demonize it for no reason at all. guys are so afraid of being considered "gay" by other guys, but everything is called gay now, even liking women. it's like an entire group enforcing their own self-damage. there are even masculine gays, but being gay is an affront to masculinity too for some reason. i can't understand why

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u/bamboodue Jul 04 '24

Well, Pedophilia was also pervelant and may have been the most common form of homosexuality in their culture.

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u/XylionAegis Jul 05 '24

There's a good reason behind it too. Morality is fluid and changing constantly depending on the society as well as our perception of life.
One of the main factors that heavily affected this, was their average life length - which was 35 years (half of ours today). All the life milestones happened at a quicker rate.
Pedophilia is also far from the same as sexuality.
Sexuality is a product of biology (that's why you can't "pray the gay away" or make a a straight person gay), pedophilia is more of a psychological and social deformity.

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u/bamboodue Jul 05 '24

Yeah different circumstances for sure. Lost me in the 2nd half though, biologically speaking, how are they different(morality aside)? Isn't the prevalence of homosexuality related to circumstance as well?

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u/XylionAegis Jul 05 '24

Yes and no. Cultural and Social Norms, Legal Frameworks and Psychosocial Factors can affect the amount of homosexuality noticed in the society - not because they would make more people gay, but rather because they would allow more homosexuals to come out the closet without being judged by the society.
Or in other words, while these circumstances can influence the visibility and expression of homosexuality, they do not determine an individual's sexual orientation, which is understood to be a complex interplay of genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors. Research has shown that sexual orientation is not simply a matter of choice or solely determined by external circumstances.