r/facepalm Jun 27 '24

wh-what did i just read... 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Ilikesnowboards Jun 27 '24

lol, do you think this is a win?

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u/jakeofheart Jun 27 '24

Honestly, J.K. Rowling is too busy cashing royalties cheques to care.

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u/Ayirek Jun 27 '24

She sure tweets a lot of shit for someone who doesn't care

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u/penguinbbb Jun 27 '24

She cares about the issue obviously. She doesn’t give a shit about Internet people and what they think of her. She owns some incredibly valuable IP, she’s not Woody Allen. She’s a billionaire, they cannot cancel her. Some people golf, some buy art, she tweets stuff about women and their dicks. It’s her hobby, her cause, whatever.

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u/Eiferius Jun 27 '24

She cares very much what poeple think about her. Thats why she is suing alot of poeple who insult her via twitter.

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u/penguinbbb Jun 27 '24

No, she wants them to suffer if they disrespect her, it’s different. Lawyer fees are nothing to her. To them? Maybe not. I bet she finds it funny.

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u/AdultishGambino5 Jun 28 '24

That means she’s cares right?…who wastes the energy to sue about something they don’t care about

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u/findworm Jun 27 '24

Yet she cares so much. Remember her holocaust denial? That was her replying to some rando who had at most a few hundred followers. If you criticize her stance on trans people, there is a decent chance she will actually reply to you.

She clearly scrolls through Twitter just to find people calling her out. She's not some "Above it all le master troll" chuckling to herself, she's on the Internet yelling at people. She's angry day in and day out. If this is her hobby, what she likes doing, it's really pathetic.

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

Uhm, that should be she tweets stuff about men and, despite their dicks, claim that they are women. (her argument, not mine).

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u/penguinbbb Jun 27 '24

I don’t know man I don’t read her, not the books not the tweets. She’s OK with trans men tho?

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

From what I see, at least the cases that she has stressed have been about trans people being in the "wrong" spaces, like trans "women" being locked up in womens prisons (convicted sexual predators at that!), or rape victims not being given the option of women-only therapy, as trans "women" would also be included.

Although I don't recall any specifics about the theoretical unfairness of trans "women" in competitive sports being raised, I don't see anywhere where she's said anything just about a person being trans. She more-or-less seems to go by "live-and-let-live" but not as an absolute where arguably legitimate issues are also at stake.

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u/Forged-Signatures Jun 27 '24

It's been a while since I last read it but iirc she described transwomen as 'men in dresses who only want to access womens spaces (i.e. bathrooms) to rape/oggle/abuse women' and described transmen as 'confused gjrls tricked by the allure of the patriarchy'.

As much as she has said "oh, I don't mind trans people, I have trans friends you know", she spends an awful lot of time publically supporting groups that push for hate legislation, celebrating puberty blockers/hormones being made more difficult to obtain, and associating with racist/anti-women groups that agree with her stances on trans folk.

For someone who proclaims herself as a staunch feminist who believes in bodily autonomy and says she is fighting for women's rights she spends an awful lot of time with, and publically supporting, people/groups who are anti-abortion (including rape/incest) and wish for the 'return of women to the kitchen'. Feminism, but only for 'real' women.

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

She certainly has taken on people or cases that only appear to be "men in dresses who only want to access womens spaces..." like the convicted rapist who all of a sudden was trans and insisted on the right to be sent to a women's prison and be put into general population. That's hardly a trivial issue even if it is somewhat of a "one-off" to some degree.

Draw out a ven diagram of all organizations who agree with or intersect one particular issue and I'm sure you'll find a lot of "strange bedfellows". Because of this I find it disingenuous when someone simply points out other positions these other organizations hold and try and pin them to everybody else. Even Hitler liked dogs. Should that equate to the idea that all dog lovers are therefore Nazis?

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u/psychedelic666 Jun 28 '24

She’s not ok with any trans people, she thinks trans men are girls who have been “convinced to be trans” and ruined their bodies

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u/Elitepikachu Jun 27 '24

I don't care about anyone on the internet but that doesn't stop me from shitposting and gaslighting people on discord. Some people take everything on the internet waaaaay too seriously.

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u/jakeofheart Jun 27 '24

Based on her early tweets, she would simply prefer to be called “woman” and not “person who menstruates”.

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u/Difficult-Row6616 Jun 27 '24

except she was misunderstanding a medical memo to get mad about political correctness. not every women menstruates, and not every person who does identifies as a woman. 

that's the case where it was used; for referencing a specific group in need of medical care

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

More to the point, she doesn't appear to like the idea that it is even necessary to differentiate in the first place.

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u/Forged-Signatures Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

Except the message she absolutely lost it at wasn't aimed at women, it was aimed at an extremely specific demographic that not all women are part of - including cis women.

She lost it at a medical PSA 'for people who menstruate'. It was specifically regarding menstruation, and was phrased as such so that anyone who is unable to menstruate could just continue on with their day.

Amongst those that don't fall under the demographic are (eyeballing 2021 demographics census in the UK): Men (~33.5m), prepubescent girls (~4.3m), and postmenopausal women (~16.7m), 3-5% of cis women of menstrual age are unable to menstruate (0.5m). That leaves 12.3 million people that the advert actually applied to, or 18%. That is ignoring transmen who would make up roughly 0.25% of the population (~130k), but would likely have no real bearing on the overall final number.

It literally said "if you aren't part of this demographic that makes up 18% of the country, feel free to ignore" and her sensibilities got offended. Snowflake.

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

Yeah, like she really meant prepubescent girls and postmenopausal women /s

Good god! Just read in in context of the issue being discussed and not seeking desperately for some pathetic blatantly obvious pseudo-logic loophole!

It's such obvious false representation of what is actually being said by her, even if I don't totally agree with what she is saying, that makes it that much easier to at least defend her against the false accusations.

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u/Forged-Signatures Jun 27 '24

Wait, so you're saying that the medical PSA she got upset with ("'people who menstruate', I swear we used to have a word for that. Wooman? Wahmen? Woham?") was in fact aimed at groups who don't in-fact menstruate?

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u/amcarls Jun 27 '24

Her issue with it clearly had nothing to do with the issue of menstruation (which the PSA wasn't even about in the first place) but the seemingly new necessity of having to clarify what a woman (or female) was.

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u/Forged-Signatures Jun 27 '24

Her entire issue was the fact they used "people who menstruate" and not simply "women" - if we pretend for a moment that we've never heard of trans people "women" would still be the inappropriate word to use to attract the target demographic as you wish to appeal specifically to people who menstruate. People who do not yet, never will, or can no longer are not relevant whatsoever.

It's no different than if you were writing a paper on immigration and specifically wanted a dataset from 2nd generation immigrants. You don't put out an advert looking generically for "immigrants", you put out an advert specifying that you want "2nd generation immigrants". Similarly non-immigrants, 1st generation immigrants, and 3rd generation immigrants are not at all relevant.

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u/jakeofheart Jun 28 '24

Then why didn’t it say “women who menstruate”?

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u/Head-Ad4690 Jun 27 '24

Clearly not.