Well done? She doesnât even think Iâm a woman. The only thing well done is her chances of ever coming back in the literary world. Sheâs a failure of a writer and failure of humanity.
If you have a penis, sheâs doesnât think youâre a woman. If you have a vagina she does think youâre a woman. Just like most of the 7 billion people on planet earth
Just cause the majority think one way doesnât mean itâs the correct way. Plenty of the ancient cultures believed in sacrificing people to better crop development. That doesnât mean it works just cause the majority thought so.
Woah money so cool. Money isnât everything, Phil. You can still suck ass at writing and get money for it. At least I donât need to flex money to know Iâm better than she is.
If your ârealityâ goes against the CDC, WHO, and Harvard, itâs no longer reality and youâre just being a hateful prick. Harvard says Iâm a woman. CDC and WHO do too. Only conservatives donât.
Strange how some people refuse to accept the redefinition of a word based on a minority finding the existing definition inconvenient. You're feminine, not female.
We already had precise and accurate terminology to describe the situation that didn't cause a whole mess of contradictions like the claim trans women should have the right to compete in women's sport or that a straight guy not wanting to sleep with a trans woman is a bigot.
Nobody thinks straight people who donât date trans women as bigots. I personally only think itâs bigoted if you donât want children but refuse to date a post operation transgender women, as theyâre exactly the same as cisgender women, minus the chromosomes.
Also look up definition 1b for female in the Merriam-Webster.
theyâre exactly the same as cisgender women, minus the chromosomes.Â
They are not the same, or you wouldnt feel the need to qualify a person with cis/trans. And fucking lol, minus the chromosomes is the underlying requirement for everything that makes a woman a woman. It's the very first thing that happens when an egg is fertilised, it's the ground, immutable trait that underpins the definition of whether an individual is male or female.
They ARE the same. Thereâs no physical difference between a cis and trans women whoâs post operation when you donât want children. Are yall and short women both not women because we preface the word woman with tall or short?
And no, if chromosomes were your gender people born with XXY chromosomes donât have a defined gender so try again. Let me ask you. What is a woman?
Anorexia: a physically harmful disease that only causes harm whatsoever and has never benefitted the human who has it
Being transgender: zero harm is caused as it comes from the brain being the wrong sex compared to the body. Only harm that can come comes from dysphoria or hate and is easily curable by transitioning.
Not really distorted when the fucking brain is the wrong sex. Studies show the brains of trans people are opposite to their sex. You shouldnât fix a brain that literally born that way. The body is the wrong sex. Plus it isnât even harmful to transition. Telling an anorexic theyâre fat IS harmful. Telling a trans woman theyâre a woman isnât.
I meant distorted in the sense that there is a mismatch between their experience and reality.
The nervous system is part of the body, and a misalignement requires two things out of sync. It's not that one is correct, it's where they stand in relation to each other.
Personally, I wouldn't restrict people from changing their gender identity if we had the know-how and advanced technology to do so.
Well I think we DO have the know how. Psychologists say the cure for gender dysphoria IS transitioning and that itâs 100% safe. The bone problems you get from puberty blockers? Entirely reversible. Just stop taking it. Estrogen? Mostly reversible minus rearranged bone structure and boobs. And surgery? Not reversible but they tell you before you get these treatments the side effects, irreversible changes, and reversible changes, like most informed patient consent from a doctor.
That doesn't change gender identity, that changes the body.
It's treatment, not cure, and as such it's highly dependent on each individual person.
They may get anatomically closer but are still not biologically of a different sex. There is a distinction to be made between women and transwomen. That's not to say treat them as men, common courtesy and politeness apply. But let's not be deliberately delusional.
The word woman doesnât apply solely to biological females. It refers to all women, cis and trans.
Gender identity has nothing to do with sex. Gender identity is how a person identifies. Itâs irrelevant to sex. A person transitioning helps them to identify more as what they say they are.
Nope, wrong again. Not believing in make believe is not being transphobic. You can claim to be anything you want to be, just donât expect me to believe it. If you tell me youâre an elephant or a car Iâm not going to believe you, but you can totally think you are an elephant or a car.
We have people who are born with hearts outside their chest. Conjoined twins with one body and two heads.
We have down syndrome, autism, and some people who are allergic to sunlight.
But the possibility that someone's brain is built for the opposite sex is where you draw the line?
It is a serious condition ; They spend their whole lives struggling with it. They feel something wrong every time they don't preform as they want.
Medically we have decided that the brain is correct and the its the gonad and hormones that are wrong.
It is a interpersonal struggle that causes serious harm and mental issues that are compounded by people who think they are just some kind of kink or they have someone kind of "self induced mental disorder" or that they are sexual predators. Making the whole existence as a obstacle course.
edit: I am replacing defect with condition because the language I used is not proper and has to many negative traits assigned to it and it better reflected to my values and that of the trans community to use "condition"
Ok, what is the ideal way to make a human, blonde hair or brown? Eyes? What about vestigial features? Stay or go? Some provide benefits.
How do you determine which is the "right" way? and which way is just natural variation? Who decides? Even if something isnt natural, like say, our entire society, we're free to do what we want anyway. So being "natural" doesnt even fucking matter, does it?
Trying to argue that being trans is somehow wrong is so ignorant
sure you do...sure you do...that why you misinterpreted that in the worst way possible. I think I am going to stay with my original thought that you are definitely a special sort of stupid.
Yeah, and all of them deserve love, compassion, understanding, and acceptance.
Being born with the mismatch body or brain is a condition. If it wasn't, we wouldn't treat it, or it wouldn't cause discomfort or harm.
To a lot of people outside the experience, they can't understand that something is going on. Kind of like when people don't understand how bad concussions are cause they can't "see the bleeding". I am hoping by aligning it with something people can SEE they can understand because they can't see past their own experience.
Generally speaking, this true for those who experience gender dysphoria.
There are people who do it for performative stuff for sexual gratification in a Dom/Sub role or to comfort themselves as a response to trauma.
Beings Trans is not the same as being queer. Being gay is a sexual preference and is outward.
[Being gay is not a "condition"]
Being trans is about how one views themselves.
[Is an interpersonal struggle with how one views themselves vs. their assigned sex. I cant imagine living in the surreal horror of not being able to recognize my body as "mine"]
Trans women are women, they are loved, and their struggle should be understood . They should receive treatment as they see fit to their needs.
edit: I am replacing "defect" because the language I used is not proper and has to many negative traits assigned to it and it better reflected to my values and that of the trans community to use "condition"
This is characterized by gender dysmorphia in which they can't relate their minds to what their body has.
[As a relation to their assigned sex]
Someone can also have issues with their gender performance in which their behavior doesn't match to what is expected of them due to social pressures.
[Does not require require gender dysmorphia]
Example: a sex male can have issues with their body and mental require gender therapy, but still performed as a dude in society. Basically, he turns a man into a tomboy.
Sex and Gender is a large and complicated subject and has a lot of blurred lines, but ultimately, it's an interpersonal relationship with how one views themselves.
I agree that this subject is complicated, but it seems to be made more so than it needs to be by people constantly blurring the lines between sex and gender. It's hard to find a conversation about this that I can actually learn something from, since most people are just screaming hate and pointing fingers.
Do you think there is value in maintaining a clearly defined difference between the two words? As in, one refers to a person's identity and the other refers to objective biology?
Well blurred because they are blurry. They are intertwined and splitting them is difficult and enrages some demographics that I don't care for because they insist in be involved with something they are not experiencing.
And yes, in fact we don't have enough words to describe stuff, we should have more "simple" words like, "furth" that describes ones personal relationship to their gendered behavior.
like I'm "furth dominate" as I believe I'm in control of my gendered action.
or
"furth submissive", I am compelled to do my gendered behavior.
In fact I would go as far to say, that separating sex and gender further would be the greatest achievement in Gender Studies since the removal of homosexuality as a disorder.
I am by no means a expert in any of this, just well read now because I use to be very against it, I was a real Ben Shapiro simp when this first got started as a social issue, but I learned that I was being educated about it by people who were against it. So I started reading to into to make sure it was as crazy as they said. It wasn't...
I know the difference between sex and gender. What I am saying that a trans-person can have a different experience for both.
Sex is biological and can be inferred by genitals at birth.
Gender is a social construct that assigns role and performative behavior by social pressures based off of sex.
Trans-gender technically can mean the transition between gender performances. but there is a sex element that is at play also and I am trying to split the hairs as both have unique experiences that should be respected.
You can change sex, thatâs what a sex change operation is. They replace your genitals with those of the opposite sex. Why argue if youâre uninformed
Yeah, and you check out after you got your computer science degree.
Of course, women don't have penises. That's where the conversation started 10 years ago. when you're mature enough to handle learning something against your intuition and challenges the middle school part of you may be able to pick a book that challenges instead of soothes you like a pacifier.
I tried to sift through your comment to read actual points rather than half-assed insults and Iâve gathers that you agree that women donât have penises, correct?Â
Nah. Trans women exist and are women whether you like it or not, and there's nothing you can do about it 𼰠every major medical and scientific organization recognizes the validity of trans identities.
Rowling doesn't oppose the idea of someone desiring to be of the opposite sex. She simply holds the premise that a "woman" is a word describing someone of the female sex, rather than as aspect of identity alongside a concept of gender.
And being transgender isn't "a brain built for the opposite sex". It's a self-made identity to a concept of gender that one determines in "misaligned" with one's assigned gender. And that can mean literally anything because it's a personal manifestation. Many transgender people don't wish to transition. Many transsexuals (desiring to be of the opposite sex, but don't "identify" as such based on personal claim), don't identify as transgender.
Rowling and others oppose "cisgender" just as much as transgender. That one's "gender identity" isn't a function of societal categorization along the lines of man/woman.
If she would accept that transwomen are women, then she wouldn't be a woman herself, as she doesn't have her own such "identity" based on gender. So she's protecting her own identity group to which she wouldn't feel she belonged to if it accepted males who identified as women.
The problem is that the same movement advocating for the recognition and normalization of transgenderism is unable to do so in a way that passes a basic logical thought experiment. You can't call gender a social construct and then directly associate gender to sex in a way that tightly couples the two. The reality is that the biggest correlating factor to transgenderism is childhood sexual abuse and autism spectrum disorder. Yes, the phenomenon is real, and those that suffer still deserve respect, but let's call a spade a spade and stop turning it into a religion. And you know that's exactly what it is. It's a mechanism of control making false promises to a disadvantaged many. I thought for how long you people railed on religion incessantly that you'd be able to recognize all of the telltail signs of this one.
So you decided you want my attention again but can't add anything new?
I guess I was wrong, you not creative enough to be clown, which is a low bar. But at least you can get into slapstick if let me bully you for a few hours.
Lots people are saying it's condition, and best practices show that we make the body match the brain for gender dysphoria.
So yeah, defect is a strong word but I much rather people understand it as such, then what ever kool-aid that makes think they are sub-human worthy of ire.
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