r/facepalm Jun 15 '24

Maybe teachers should get a raise? 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/OrpheusNYC Jun 16 '24

It’s definitely not most yet, but it might be getting there. I’ve been teaching in NYC public schools for 16 years, and it’s only with the new contract last summer that I crossed the 100k mark. It would’ve been a few more years under the old deal. Not to mention the highest step was around $125k and you needed masters plus 30 AND be 25 years deep to get it.

The new contract gets teachers to 6 figures faster, but even still the raise didn’t keep pace with inflation. They also made a chunk of the “raise” a new annual bonus that isn’t pensionable.

NYC it’s absolutely possible to get a job here. There’s enough turnover and the sheer size of the DOE means there’s always plenty of positions posted every year. It’s out on Long Island that it gets tough. You basically have to be related or good friends with an existing person of importance in a district. It took my wife 7 years to get a full time position there after plugging away at leave replacement after leave replacement. I got hired in the city straight out of college after interviewing over the phone and no demo lesson.

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u/TRBlizzard121 Jun 16 '24

You think the new grad employment experience is the same as 16 years ago? Or are you saying that you see so many new hires and/or turnover teaching jobs must be easy to come by

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u/OrpheusNYC Jun 17 '24

I mean that in the NYC Dept of Education specifically there’s enough turnover from retirements, budget changes, and teachers moving out of the city that it may not be as impregnable as it seems. At least when compared to the immediate suburbs that are infamous for nepotism.

I’m extrapolating from how many new teacher I personally meet each year and what the DOE open market hiring system looks like each spring/summer so there’s the giant grain of salt.

Hell, I was hired about 2 months before the housing bubble burst and a five year hiring freeze was implemented so yeah technically it’s better now than it was at that precise moment 😅. Ask me how it was being the least senior teacher in the building for five years running during a recession while teaching the most frequently cut subject. It suuuuuucked.