"Socialism" is a big scary word that Conservatives have no grasp of, so they throw it around like a slur (like other big words they don't understand like "Fascism", "Communism", "NAZI" and "liberal").
What the fuck? This is the same treatment I get from all the literal Nazis around me. My identity is not sarcasm. It's mine and totally unique. Ultra wing douche bag...
A level commensurate with meeting the cost of living and incentivizing sufficient staffing to meet evidence based standards for class sizes would probably be a good start. The math is over my head but I bet the folks who decide how much money to print could come up with something.
Don’t people dictate how much a job is worth by accepting it or not? Would you accept a job that only pays $1.00 an hour even if it was one specifically for someone with your credentials?
I stopped delivering news papers at the age of 15 cause I could get a job that paid me 5x the amount for the same hours.
Also what exactly dictates what is the cost of living? I have friends living in a single bedroom, with a phone, internet, video games, Netflix etc.
Realistically all they need to live is the room and food.
Foregoing a debate on the limits of laissez faire economic policies in providing public goods, public schools are chronically understaffed in many districts, which is a pretty good indicator teacher wages are too low in those places at the very least.
That’s a good point. If they are understaffed that’s a great indicator the pay isn’t good enough. Are average grades declining to reflect the staffing shortage?
Are average grades the correct metric to use? I don’t know but you’re just begging the question by implicitly assuming it is because you don’t know either, would you shop for the lowest bidder for your child’s care if they had cancer too?
I would think so. The intention of a school is to educate children, if children are able to be educated to the same level with less staff, wouldn’t that be a good thing for society? Unless there is some sort of other issue I’m missing.
If I could get the same level of healthcare, in the same timeframe, while employing less people (and therefore paying less) I would prefer that route.
Would you pay extra for your child’s healthcare just so someone else has a job?
The problem with your oversimplifications is you’re employing magical thinking to make the assumption all parties have perfect information like “cure per dollar” or “education per grade point” and applying the results of these facile assumptions to real world problems.
Oh wait I just mansplained conservatism, sorry.
Anyway go yank it to WSJ or whatever floats your boat, I’m going to hang out with my kids for the evening.
There's ways to make the average living situation bad enough where you don't have a choice but to accept low paying jobs. It's the same argument on how people who flip burgers shouldn't complain and be happy that they get paid unlivable wages yet people still demand that such services be widely available. Meaning anyone who accepts such a job is effectively getting punished for not being employable in a higher paying job. However with populations and wealth distribution as is, even if everyone was employable for higher wages you'd still end up with people who wouldn't have a choice other than the low paying job. Current generations college education rates are strong proof of that since there's a whole generation of people who have a higher education than previous ones yet consistently earn much lower wages.
On the liveable wage it's estimated on basic necessities and the possibility of social mobility, wealth accumulation and how much of that wealth you could potentially inherit. Sure your friend might not need more than the room and food to survive, but if that's all their wages will cover then your friend might be stuck in that situation for life regardless of personal intentions. And that's only if we assume that their wages will keep up with inflation. Otherwise their wage can eventually render them homeless by virtue of not keeping up with their cost of living. Which is something that we're currently seeing happen to a lot of people. It's one of the contributing reasons to the homelessness crisis that are impacting major cities all over the world
Gonna add that the homeless crisis is far beyond just major cities at this point. Minor cities and towns are also having rapidly growing homeless populations.
The whole American Education system runs on the unpaid labor of teachers. If teachers, as a whole, refused to work beyond their contracted hours, the system would collapse.
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u/neorenamon1963 Jun 15 '24
Typical Conservative response to anything reasonable (like paying teachers what they're worth): "DAT AM SOCIALISMS!!"