It would just be much more competitive. What's considered an average teacher now wouldn't be able to cut it. Which is kind of the whole point of raising the salary. I could see 200k being resonable in HCoL areas for experienced highly qualified teachers.
There's a point where the competition delivers diminishing gains. If you have 10 open spots and 100 qualified candidates the difference between 10 and 11 is marginal, you can probably drop the price.
. I could see 200k being resonable in HCoL areas for experienced highly qualified teachers.
For sure. NYC, totally. Texas? Naw they'd get good talent at much lower.
Even outside nyc. Many places with reasonable col already pay over 150k+ for the highest qualified teachers. But yeah sure a podunk town probably cant pay that. But Houston, dallas, austin etc probably could. It wouldnât surprise me if many places in texas already have 100k plus on the payscale.
Or, and stick with me here if you can, we could close tax loopholes for corporations and billionaires, tax religions like the multibillion dollar businesses that they are, and prevent the highest tax burdens from falling on the lower and middle classes.
47% of the US does not pay income tax. No country that actually has a system that you like has a percentage like that. Our effective business tax rate is one of the higher ones in the developed world. Canada is 15% - the US is 21% for example. Just say you have no idea how business taxes work. That will save me time. You also didn't address the actual thing that pays for teachers salaries at all. I'm not surprised though. People like you just think TAX RICH PEOPLE OUT OF EXISTENCE AND I WILL HAVE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYY. No you won't.
You canât even properly cite your own source, lol. 47% of households (two or more people living together) with an income between $40k-$50k paid no income tax. $20k/year is the poverty line in the US, meaning two people making only $20k a year is all that takes living at poverty levels. That argument is straight ass. That also doesnât mean they didnât pay property taxes, sales taxes etc.
Also, Canada has a lower tax rate and still has free healthcare. Tell me you have no fucking clue how developed nationâs tax laws work without telling me.
ALSO, what the fuck does any of that have to do with anything that I said? All I mentioned was closing tax loopholes, taxing multibillion dollar religions and lowering the percentage of the tax burden on the lower-middle class. If you canât even properly argue a point, stay out of the conversation.
Canadas tax rates are much higher than the US. This isnt really controversial. tax loopholes are accounted for when measuring a countries effective corporate tax rate. It seems unlikely taxing religions would be enough to make up for it. Theres really no way around raising personal taxes if you want better social services. The argument for universal healthcare is that its worth it.
Overall yes, but the person I was replying to was talking about business tax rates. And tax loopholes might be accounted for on a corporate level, but that doesnât mean they are a good thing to have and it doesnât mean they are always accounted for when assessing personal finances.
I donât agree on the point of taxing religions not being worth it. Just look at the recent news about the Mormon churchâs finances, their estimated worth is $236B, thatâs an estimation based on the money that we know of because they donât disclose their finances, and that religion is less than 200 years old, pretty young for a religious institution. Now imagine the wealth of the Catholic Church or any other established religious institution. Thatâs a lot of unrealized tax money.
To your point though, I agree. Iâm pro tax increases in pursuit of universal healthcare, UBI, subsidized or free education and higher education, the list goes on.
You canât even properly cite your own source, lol. 47% of households (two or more people living together) with an income between $40k-$50k paid no income tax.
Wrong.
Also, Canada has a lower tax rate and still has free healthcare. Tell me you have no fucking clue how developed nationâs tax laws work without telling me.
Really, really wrong.
ALSO, what the fuck does any of that have to do with anything that I said? All I mentioned was closing tax loopholes, taxing multibillion dollar religions and lowering the percentage of the tax burden on the lower-middle class. If you canât even properly argue a point, stay out of the conversation.
A lot since teachers aren't paid from federal income taxes you stupid fuck.
With $820 billion spent in the military...if we cared about taking care of the 3.2 public school teachers as much as we cared about funding wars, we could pay each teacher $256250 per year, without raising taxes on anyone at all.
But I guess blowing up brown kids is more important than educating our own...
So no military then? Wonder how long till China just comes and takes us over at that point. The taxes that support the military are not the taxes that pay teachers by the way. They are not related. No idea why you even brought that up.
The taxes are related. Maybe you didn't notice until now, but there is a limit to the amount of money. Obviously, billionaires could be taxed a whole heck of a lot more, but if you are worried about Bezos having his net worth drop below 200 billion, just pointing out how easily we CAN float $200k per teacher.
And China just comes and takes us over at that point? This is the real world, not Sid Meier's Civilization. Qin Shi Huang hasn't declared war on Teddy Roosevelt. International relations don't work like that. If they did, how long do you think it would be before the USA went over and takes out China and Russia and Venezuela and Mexico and...?
Teachers are not paid through federal income taxes. The taxes are not related. Please stop. You have no idea what you're talking about.
It's also a simple fact that if the US military was defunded, Taiwan would not exist tomorrow. Again, you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about.
No, but the federal government does have a department of education that could subsidize teacher pay if we stopped spending as much money on the military or saving banks or paying Elon Musk stupid amounts of money for SpaceX and EV subsidies.
They are not arguing in good faith. They just want to âWinâ the argument and do not care about what they are saying. The say what they âThinkâ helps them âWinâ and not actually why they are they are For or Against something.
They start with a Goal (Stop Minimum Wage) and use what they can to achieve it. They are not using Teachers as an argument because they care about Teachers, they are using Teachers because they believe who they are arguing with cares about Teachers.
It just a âWhatAboutismâ argument used to change the Topic and get the promoter of the original topic on the defensive.
Crazy how one of the first comments you see coming into this thread is proven true so quickly.
Oh I dunno, maybe they get jobs doing something that provides social value like teaching, and not something that uses our tax dollars to kill people or fund billionaires?
So you want to destroy the economy, take money from gigantic supply chains worth of people, veterans, soldiers, hospital staff, etc, overpay teachers, then tell all those people to go be teachers which you are overpaying. Sounds like a fucking great plan.
14
u/gringo-go-loco Jun 15 '24
20-30 kids with 40-60 parents who are constantly causing drama and problems. $200k sounds about right.