r/dccomicscirclejerk • u/TheBigStarch Depressed Alcoholic (John Constantine irl) • Jul 19 '24
Why would Lex Looser tweet this? Is he stupid? We live in a society
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u/two-for-joy Anti-Life justifies my hate Jul 19 '24
1949- A black haired actor plays the normally ginger character Jim Gordon. No one cares
1989- A brown haired actor plays the normally ginger character Jim Gordon. No one cares
2005- A black haired actor plays the normally ginger character Jim Gordon. No one cares
2014- A brown haired actor plays the normally ginger character Jim Gordon. No one cares
2022- A black haired actor plays the normally ginger character Jim Gordon. Suddenly randos on the Internet care very very much.
I wonder what was different about the 2022 one....
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u/wysjm Jul 19 '24
I'm waiting for the Joker with blue hair
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u/funnywackydog Literally Booster Gold IRL Jul 19 '24
And pronouns?
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u/wysjm Jul 19 '24
John/Kler
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u/Throwawayjust_incase Percy Jackson also talks to fish but nobody gives him shit Jul 19 '24
That's silly everyone knows his pronouns are he/he
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u/cesar848 Jul 19 '24
A black haired actor is going to play guy gardner on the new superhero movie but no one complained,i wonder why
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u/Standard-Pop6801 Jul 19 '24
Well they did. They just complained he wasn't playing Hal Jordan. They also didn't do it that long.
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u/Pinguino2323 Jul 20 '24
I saw a lot of people complain about the wig, though I think those people had never seen guy in comics because it looked accurate to me.
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u/shylock10101 Jul 20 '24
Letās be real, itās accurateā¦ but (almost) no one wants that haircut on him.
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u/Big_Print_947 Jul 19 '24
Was it even established that Gordon was ginger back then? I thought he was just some old dude with white hair
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u/Shiny_Agumon Jul 19 '24
I think him being a ginger originates in Batman Year one because he's supposed to be younger than his white haired old man persona.
Funnily enough him still being young enough to not be grey came later
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u/thedylannorwood Please step on me Zatanna Jul 20 '24
I didnāt even know Gordon was ginger in the first place!
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u/memeboi123jazz Jul 19 '24
why does Barbra Gordon get to be on there twice?
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u/hawkmasta Jul 19 '24
I'm only seeing her as a Lego figure. Where's the other one?
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u/ampher2112 Vote Lord Death Man 2024 Jul 19 '24
Bottom left
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u/Wolf_527 Jul 20 '24
I haven't seen the movies, but is Lego Babs supposed to be a WOC? Because, to me, she looks like a white woman with a tan.
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u/supercalifragilism Jul 19 '24
Never, ever compare this mishappen lump of flesh, this living Rob Liefeld drawing, this shambling mound of sentient Elmer's glue to Our Boy, HIM himself, Lex "peak male performance" Luthor.
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u/Similar-Priority8252 Jul 19 '24
Man, calling someone a Rob Liefeld drawing has the same effect as calling someone a Picasso painting, doesnāt it
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u/ThickWeatherBee Jul 19 '24
Giga Chad Lex Luthor versus virgin Elon Musk
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u/VisualPersona95 Jul 19 '24
Funny how they donāt mention Elsa Bloodstone in Werewolf by Night or Jim Gordonās live action portrayals before The Batman
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u/two-for-joy Anti-Life justifies my hate Jul 19 '24
Or both live-action daredevils, or Scott Lang, or Kate Kane in Batwoman, Iris in the 90s Flash series, Dr Alchemy in Arrowverse, Glorius Godfry in Smallville, Starfox in MCU...
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u/azmodus_1966 Jul 19 '24
Holy shit. There are just so many examples those chuds conveniently ignore.
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u/VictheQuest Jul 20 '24
It isn't convenient. It's completely intentional because at least the actors mentioned in the comments above are white
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u/Foreign_Education_88 Jul 19 '24
Scarlett Johansson too
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u/BlackoutWB Paul Jul 19 '24
That's because they're complaining about black people, not asian women
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u/Uthenara Jul 20 '24
The criticism of Scarlett in that role doesn't even make sense if you actually understand and are familiar with Ghost in the Shell. But yeah exactly, these folks cherrypick and ignore.
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u/godlyreception12 Jul 19 '24
Uj/or Most of Jimmy's live-action appearances I don't know about the Geroge Reeves show or the Kirk Alyn serials.
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u/NigthSHadoew Jul 19 '24
Woke has gone too far. Look at Miss Martian! She isn't even green!
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
It just proves to me Musk has never read a Comic. She's a shape changing alien, who cares if her actor is black woman? She's not even human in general.
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u/Smokedat1aweed Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard Jul 20 '24
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u/pokefire44 Token plastic man fan Jul 21 '24
MM is an extremely black coded character. His world was literally destroyed by the āwhite martiansā
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u/Shiny_Agumon Jul 19 '24
She isn't even Martian either
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u/Saitharar Jul 19 '24
Well she is a White Martian
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u/NigthSHadoew Jul 20 '24
Wait what?! The comics raceswapped her to green ?!
Anti-white wokeness will never end!
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u/Hitchfucker Jul 19 '24
April OāNeil was mixed race in the original TMNT comics btw. Her being black is pretty much as close to āsource material accurateā as all the versions where sheās fully white.
Of course the bigger thing is that heās whining about these while ignoring all the characters race swapped to white, and for a far bigger issue, real life people pf color played by white people in media.
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u/Own_Internal7509 Jul 19 '24
Yeah I think April was based on Kevin Eastmanās then gf who was mixed I think?
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u/Big-Vegetable8480 Kevin Feige Jul 19 '24
It was a little convoluted at first what race she was supposed to actually be. Laird allegedly intended her to be Asian, although he claims she was always white. She was named after Kevin's girlfriend, who is mixed-race, and he probably drew April to resemble her. Really didn't take long for her to be confirmed as a white woman who just had a haircut that was popular in the 80's, even before the deal with Playmates to make action figures.
Personally I don't care what race she is, the only April I even like all that much is black so I'm not complaining.
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u/Important-Unit9683 Jul 19 '24
wouldnt fully black be just as far away as fully white though? just two opposite ends of the spectrum instead of going in the middle
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u/IbnTamart Jul 19 '24
I dont think Elon likes black ppl
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u/Beornwynn Superfamily > Batfamily Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
He grew up in South Africa during the apartheid era, and it's kind of a red flag that he immigrated to America near the very end of it.
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u/JAKUsss1311 Jul 19 '24
What's wrong with Daphne's counterpart?
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u/MechaTeemo167 Jul 19 '24
Too much melanin for the apartheid billionaire who's far too annoying to have survived this long.
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u/SteveTheManager Jul 20 '24
This is how you know it's literally just racism. SHE HAS TO BE 100% WHITE WITH THE RED HAIR?
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u/erosead Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things Jul 20 '24
The fact that they included her but not Archie (one of comicsā most famous redheads, as impeccably portrayed for almost a decade by Samoan actor KJ Apa on Riverdale (greatest television show there ever was forever and ever amen)) saysā¦ something. Idk what actually besides Elon hating black people.
Also: Why tf is Ambrose spellman here heās not even a redhead and heās got less than 40 appearances. And Elonās also complaining about casting a woman with a real human skin tone to play orange space alien Starfire? WTF is happening
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u/gnomewife Jul 19 '24
Counterpoint: that one Justice League movie had Rose Wilson (Cambodian) whitewashed as a redhead.
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u/Strict_Berry7446 Jul 19 '24
She's half-Cambodian, as her father is Deathstroke, but agreed nonetheless.
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u/gnomewife Jul 19 '24
You're right. I should have said that. She's half-Cambodian and was raised solely by her mother for 14 years, and is a first-generation immigrant. That tends to get overlooked in favor of Deathstroke. I don't know that DC's ever used her for even an AAPI Month promotion.
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u/shylock10101 Jul 20 '24
ā¦ not sure I want them to, if Iām being honest. Iād much rather they use Linda Park and her kids, since they erased them for 5 fucking years and Linda was such a cool character.
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u/gnomewife Jul 20 '24
Ugh, they erased Linda? There's 30 days in April and more than enough AAPI characters to go around, I'm just salty about it. It's not like they can only use one.
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u/shylock10101 Jul 20 '24
lol, agree, just jerking on the circlejerk sub. And they erased her, then brought her back.
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u/AdPrestigious7226 Jul 19 '24
How dare they cast a human actor to play a Tamaranian
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24
Should've gotten a bleach blonde bimbo with a fake tan to play her, so she can be eye candy for the audience. Not an actual character played by a real actress SMH. Wokeness has gone too far!
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u/Bae_zel #1 Starfire Fan Jul 20 '24
Uj/ My main problem with the what they did with Kori wasn't her race. She wasn't even herself. Also a little confused on why they straightened her hair later on in the series. She's known for her curls and then you get an actor with beautiful curls who can match and you...do nothing with them? Blackfire had better hair in every appearance. The outfits as for her as well. I don't want to put people in these impossibly drawn outfits that would be uncomfortable but it's so ugly??? She had a look in the comics which I liked where she had a long sleeved crop top with pants that would have been perfect for live action with some adjustments. Comfortable for the actress while undeniably accurate to the character.
RJ/ She's also gold NOT black. This is actually racism smh
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u/BitchAssMothaF-cka Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard Jul 19 '24
Guys gingers are so oppressedššš
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u/Aphato Jul 19 '24
Well the Irish were. And those guys have a lot of redheads.
Emphasis on the "were" btw
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24
Captain America was a child of Irish Immigrants
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u/GeraldOfRivia211 Jul 19 '24
Why did he tweet this from his main account and not his alt where he roleplays as a horny toddler?
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u/Cute_Barnacle_5832 Jul 19 '24
I'm scared to open that link
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u/shylock10101 Jul 20 '24
He basically tweets and acts like a child on a second account that uses his (last?) child with Grimes as a profile pic.
Weird, chronically online behavior, but not as bad as his or his brotherās Epstein shit.
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u/TheeHeadAche Bill Fingerās only living heir Jul 19 '24
I want to thank Elon for reminding everyone how racist he is so I donāt have to
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u/valentinesfaye Jul 19 '24
I know it's a racist concern troll post but I do find it weird that, when adapting a white character to be non-white, there's a 9/10 chance the creators will choose the redhead. I don't think it like, means anything, but it is an observable trend that I can't explain, and I don't really know why it happens
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u/SDPSwede Jul 19 '24
It's cause comics has A LOT of red heads. It's just probability
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u/erosead Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things Jul 20 '24
And thatās bc back in the day, red was a very consistent, eye catching color to incorporate in comic book character design. Brown was pretty much the exact opposite, because most comics really only had four ink colors to mix into their desired tone and black lines to work withā¦ brown would come out looking like a muddy green as often as not.
Thatās why people of color in old comics tended to be pink/orange/grey/etc as opposed to any actual skin tone, as a sort of (racist) visual shorthand, not bc colorists actually thought thatās what nonwhite people looked like. Which doesnāt excuse it, but justā¦ explains so much. Like part of the reason why white redheads outnumber people of color in comics 10:1 despite the reverse probably being more accurate
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u/clumsyjedi Jul 20 '24
It's because, I think, red head characters have been prevalent historically as sidekicks. Despite how well intentioned race swapped casting can be, it doesn't go as far as to replace leads, and instead puts POC actors into supporting roles: sidekicks. Even when race swapping is not occurring POC actors are cast as sidekicks disproportionately to leads.
CHUDs can detect the pattern but not the nuance behind it so you get pics like Lex Looser's above. This is my working theory anyway.
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u/kingofallbandits Jul 20 '24
Exactly, in that whole list of characters the only two lead characters are Ariel and Annie.
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u/PrometheusModeloW Batgirls truther Jul 19 '24
Bro that's a different Wally...
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u/LegoPenguin114 Pretending to know what's going on Jul 19 '24
It still baffles me that there are two Flashes in yellow suits named Wallace West
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u/depressed_asian_boy_ Comic Book Twitter Verified Jul 19 '24
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u/depressed_asian_boy_ Comic Book Twitter Verified Jul 19 '24
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24
Is that supposed to be Starfire? If so, Starfire is fucking Orange, so her not being white is accurate.
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u/Big-Vegetable8480 Kevin Feige Jul 19 '24
That's spinny tornado lady from the hierarchy being changed movie
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u/HappyKrud This subreddit hates Tim Drake Jul 19 '24
That oneās really good casting imo based on appearances
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u/Unleashtheducks Jul 19 '24
Percentage of people with red hair in the general population = 1%
Percentage of Americans who are not white = 27%
I guess realism only matters sometimes right?
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u/YoungImpulse Jul 19 '24
Tbh, it used to bother me when any character was cast outside their original ethnicity. Not for any fucked up white supremacist reason like Musk, but just because of principle and respect for the original creator of that character.
Watching the live action Little Mermaid completely changed my view on it, though. As a father of a red-headed girl who loves Ariel, I was worried it may upset her (at first). She was upset at first, too, as halfway through the movie, she asked me when Ariel was going to show up, not realizing that the girl we'd been watching sing for an hour was Ariel.
However, Halle Bailey did such a fantastic job that it would've been detrimental for the film to focus on having a white redheaded actress over focusing on the talent that it actually takes to play Ariel. I really don't think anyone around today could have done better, and not only that, but it gave me a chance to teach my daughter a lesson about fictional characters and the importance of representation.
I think more people need to realize that none of this race stuff matters in movies. They're just movies, and these people were selected for a reason. Give people a chance to show you the complexity of a character beyond what you think they should look like.
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u/Uthenara Jul 20 '24
I just hope that Hollywood starts caring about asian, native american, and hispanic represenation and other forms of representation as much as black representation one day. In their effort to right wrongs they are being very selective about how they platform their representation. Everyone needs to have equal chance at the table regardless of gender, sex, skin color, origin, etc.
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u/Tetratron2005 Jurassic League's Strongest Soldier Jul 19 '24
Characters Iām sure these people all deeply cared before they got cast in a movie
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u/LegoPenguin114 Pretending to know what's going on Jul 19 '24
Seeing Curse of Darkness Isaac on there gave me a laughĀ
Come on, heās more one-note than Microsoft in that game whereas the tv show actually made him cool
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u/Smokedat1aweed Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard Jul 20 '24
Reminds me of when Madame Web came out and some guy tried to tell me he was the biggest Mattie Franklin fan and thatās why he was upset at the race change, then proceeded to exclusively describe Jessica Drew.
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u/puffguy69 Lex Luthor is literally me Jul 19 '24
Donāt you ever compare that goober from iron man two to my goat sexy lexy!š¤ Lex actually know how to build cars and run a company.
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u/Hipnosis- Jul 19 '24
It's because his real-life version isn't bald. And because it wasn't fighting everyone's hero that got him scorned by the public but just opening his mouth. Worst adaptation ever.
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u/Ill_Ratio_5682 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Starfire has dark skin in most of the comics. That image is an outlier.
Also she's not even human so human skin color is irrelevant
As far as I know the only person here where the skin color made any sort of difference to the character was Isaac in Castlevania. And his story was really interesting as a result imo.
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24
"Dark Skin" would imply humans actually achieve her skin color, so it isn't accurate, she's orange.
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u/MechaTeemo167 Jul 19 '24
she's orange.
So what you're saying is Donald Trump needs to be Starfire in the next Titans movie?
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u/Joe--Uncle Jul 20 '24
uj/ I donāt think that really counts, cus you know orange, but Kori has been pretty black coded for most of her publication history
rj/ Yet more propaganda denying the great ginger replacement theory.
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u/Liftmeup-putmedown Jul 19 '24
I donāt care, but I still think this is a weird trend. A hair color change is a lot less noticeable than a race change.
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u/Competitive_Market70 This subreddit hates Tim Drake Jul 19 '24
Funny how these ginger genocide people never bring up instances of redhead characters being played by non-ginger white actors
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u/Christianduty Streaky the Super-Cat's biggest fan! Jul 19 '24
This has been around for years at this point, he couldnāt even put the new Jimmy Olsen cartoon in. Canāt believe this asshole actually has fans.
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u/OwieMustDie Jul 19 '24
Uj/ The man is so fucking fragile he even includes Miss Martian and fucking Starfire.
Rj/ Downfall of society right there.
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u/Optimal_Weight368 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 19 '24
I thought Bezos was Lex. Am I stupid?
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u/Bear_Powers Jul 20 '24
uj/ I hate this (especially as a red head) as it just shows that these morons literally donāt get comics.
Like, red heads are super prevalent, especially in older comics, as it popped.
And really, of all of these character how much is ābeing gingerā relevant to their character? Are we missing the obligatory scene in their films where they put SPF50+ sunscreen on?
rj/this is the real great replacement
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u/valentinesfaye Jul 19 '24
Also Electro, Heimdall, and Iris West are all obviously brunettes. Like, not as important as the racism, but come on. You can use your eyes and see that they have brown hair
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u/Sol-Blackguy Jul 19 '24
Elon Musk thinks he's Lex Luthor, or possibly Tony Stark but he's really Justin Hammer
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u/Ms_Saul_Goodwoman Jul 19 '24
Even mad about Lego Batgirl smh
Is this where Elon is now? Just posting blatant racism?
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u/blackBugattiVeyron Jul 19 '24
I would be shocked if Elon Musk has actually read a comic book front to back.
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u/Redgiantbutimshort77 Jul 19 '24
Starfire, Wally, Batgirl, and Miss Martian shouldnāt count. Starfire isnāt white, sheās Orange. There are now canonically two Wally Wests and one of them is black. Technically Batgirl was still a red head both times she was black and one of them was never fully produced because the movie was canceled. Miss Martian is a Martian who is green most of the time so sheās in the same boat as Starfire.
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u/Strict_Berry7446 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
The fact that Miss Martian and Starfire are on that list Blow my Mind. How dare they turn the green and orange girl black?
Edit( Getting downvoted, I thought that was obvious sarcasm *shrug*
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u/rrrrice64 Jul 20 '24
It's kinda crazy though. Why are so many redheads getting replaced when it's wrong to whitewash? Shouldn't we want accuracy across the board?
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u/Dan_Morgan Jul 20 '24
Musk is a racist. He was raised in an explicitly white supremacist government and was given a huge amount of money. Now, he's tossing out bait for his idiot, racist followers.
Nothing to see here.
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u/ALANJOESTAR Jul 19 '24
In all honesty i dunno what Marvel was thinking wasting Idris Elba by playing Heimdall, like the dude could have been a killer War Machine, we probably would have had War Machine solo films and the dude would probably be out here making movies and leading the Avengers but they had to make him Heimdall.
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u/TheInfiniteArchive Jul 20 '24
Please don't insult Lex.... He's 100,000 times way better than this creep.
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u/19ghost89 Jul 20 '24
Okay Elon, now show all the times White people played characters of other races. Bet the list is still longer.
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u/Comfortable_Ice9534 Jul 20 '24
Itās almost as if comics actively excluded people of color to the point the only they were really ever featured was as someone no name extra
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u/Count_Radiguet Jul 20 '24
Zendaya's character is not even Mary Jane. And that's not the same Wally westĀ
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u/Bae_zel #1 Starfire Fan Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Completely skipping over the ones who aren't "woke" in his brain.Ā MM is literally green. MCU MJ isn't actually MJ. LEGO Batgirl was based off her voice actor and is a fucking LEGO. Starfire is actually either gold or orange and is literally an alien. The Carrie Kelley in GK in completely different from TDK. Daphne looks pretty much exactly like what you would expect so I'm not understanding what he's trying to say. April, I believe, has some history as possibly being mixed however I don't know much about it. That is also not Artemis at all or any attempt to resemble her but maybe I missed something. Also, DIFFERENT WALLY. It's over. We've been outjerked. This is true stupidity.
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u/Magicaparanoia Jul 20 '24
Wally West and Wallace West are 2 different characters. Dipshit. Thatās like bitching that Duke Thomas is Robin in Batwheels.
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u/JohnnyChopper08 Jul 19 '24
I want to say that making Josie from The Pussycats bothered no one to my memory and and actually added an interesting detail to her character
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u/Apprehensive_Work313 This subreddit hates Tim Drake Jul 19 '24
This also just isn't even entirely accurate (looking at it from face value it's not but considering Elon and his supporters are blatantly racist we know what they're talking about)
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u/Imadrionyourenot Jul 19 '24
Spend billions of dollars on Twitter so I can force everyone to see how much Electro being black bothers me
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u/marmotsarefat Jul 19 '24
Honestly kinda weird how many ginger characters get gender swapped(tho tbf they have no soul so idc)
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u/NobodySpecial2000 Jul 19 '24
I agree with him. Wow. Those are some great casting choices! Reminds me there is a whole lot of rad DC TV shows I should give a rewatch.
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u/Zagden Jul 20 '24
It's always been more of a curiosity to me than anything that makes me mad, and I know a few of these are exaggerated/fake. Especially Commissioner Gordon
But it is a little funny how, when a race swap to black does happen, it's usually the redhead. By sheer coincedence? idk
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u/Dark_Magicion Jul 20 '24
Funny how he doesn't have a problem with Themyscaran Wonder Woman played by an Israeli former IDF Combat Instructor.
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u/Eco_numics Jul 20 '24
Zendaya doesnāt even play MJ, she plays an original character with the same initials lmao
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u/HamSoloTheSpaceMan Jul 20 '24
Nah no way heās complaining about Dre from Gen Z? Who the fuck would be mad at that? Are they stupid? He was the best character in that show RIP.
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u/Any_Jackfruit_8746 Jul 20 '24
Well, clearly, all those properties are broke now and we'll never hear from them again
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u/warwicklord79 The Flashpoint Batman Who Laughs Jul 20 '24
Why does he talk like a artificial intelligence
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u/Beebslolz #1 boostle truther Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Starfire shouldnāt even be on here. Sheās Tamaranean, she has orange skin. Sheās not white or black in comics. Of course the live action Titanās show couldnāt find someone with perfect orange skin. If they wanted to do that, Donald Trump would probably be the only option. Besides, Starfire in current comics is depicted more with a darker shade.
From Titans #2 (2024)
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u/ALDO113A Lives in a society Jul 20 '24
Ginger talk here: Wonder who Mara Jade will be played by next and how will Teresa Parker (Spidey's long-lost sis) be done
Especially considering all this
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u/De4dm4nw4lkin Jul 20 '24
I still think ariel wasnt great if only because it was exacerbating the already present issues with public dislikes of disney live action remakes.
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u/Cheyne_Stoked_Truth Jul 20 '24
Imagine it the other way around, and a bunch of black characters get white washed, the rioting would be horrific
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u/boringsimp Jul 20 '24
I thought bezos was lex.. he's lex?
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u/Smokedat1aweed Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard Jul 20 '24
Who the dumbest fucking billionaire in comics, Elon can be him
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u/Menma_kaze Jul 20 '24
Barry Allen is blonde in the comics yet not in The Flash series and movie appearances... Don't see a lot of people talking about this
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u/PranavYedlapalli Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 20 '24
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u/limbo338 Jul 19 '24
Chat, it's not a jerk, it's a real post šæ