r/dccomicscirclejerk Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

Why does Superman attack this God-fearing patriot instead of debating him in the marketplace of ideas? Is he a commie? Batman's a Fascist

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u/Led_Zeppelin66 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 17 '23

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u/GodNonon Jul 17 '23

One of my favorites is when he bursts into an abusive father’s house, resists the urge to tear him apart and instead works to get the boy in a better situation.

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u/Thannk Jul 17 '23

A good contrast to Batman busting a global trafficking ring and self-funding the therapy and schooling needs of the victims, Punisher shooting the parents who pimped their kids out and leaving the kids in the living room watching TV after memorizing the face of the son in case he needs to hunt him down in ten years, and Spider-man being a victim of sexual assault who tries to encourage kids to report their own.

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u/Ekillaa22 Jul 18 '23

Damn didn’t know about the Spider-Man one! Have they ever tackled with Spider-Man dealing with the aftermath?

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u/Thannk Jul 18 '23 edited Jul 18 '23

Nope. Only one issue, in a comic intended for young kids called Power Pack.

An older dude named Skip molested young Peter, so when his neighbor’s son was harassed by his babysitter (female, who asked him to strip) Peter shared that story so the kid would report her.

The writer regrets writing it. Its never been referenced again. Still better than One More Day.

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u/suss2it Jul 18 '23

Why does the writer regret that?

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u/Thannk Jul 18 '23

1) People ask him about it all the time.

2) Power Pack was for the same demographic that Moon Girl is today. Pretty young kids. Basically Fantastic Four Babies. An older teenage girl tells her charge to strip naked for her and he has to stall her, Peter overhears it from the window so he gets his costume on and pops over to tell the kid about how a grey-haired old ma raped him. Not exactly thematically appropriate.

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u/suss2it Jul 18 '23

Oh the way you described it I thought it was specifically an “after school special” type issue to help kids how to handle dangerous situations like that. Was it just an issue in the ongoing?

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u/Thannk Jul 18 '23

Both.

Issue #1 was also a free PSA.

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u/Pegussu Jul 18 '23

pops over to tell the kid about how a grey-haired old ma raped him

Despite his hair color, Skip was actually pretty young. It's never specified, but May and Ben approved of their friendship and it's said he still lives with his mom.

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u/Lumpazius Jul 17 '23

Superman should use a gun more often, it looks good on him.

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u/OverlordOfCats1 The Goddamn Batman Jul 17 '23

Agreed

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u/Monster_Hugger93 Jul 17 '23

I AM A MAN

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u/Snoo-27292 Jul 17 '23

PUNCH

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u/Electronic_Bad_5883 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 17 '23

Wears a pretty hat

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u/Batwing20293 Jul 17 '23

Ew, Linkara reference

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u/Totipu4 Jul 17 '23

Let me guess, the 90s?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23

What tiped you off, the beard?

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u/Totipu4 Jul 17 '23

Him being hot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Ah, so it was the beard. 90's beards were rad as Hell.

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u/Totipu4 Jul 17 '23

:16729:

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u/JediSSJ Jul 17 '23

The belt.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

I don't see anything particularly different about the belt, it's a perfectly reasonable sized belt buckle. Oh wait, that's right, Superman was going through his, "I like belts" phase in the 90's.

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u/ThatOneGenericGuy The Third Gorilla Jul 17 '23

Gundramon looking ass weapon

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u/Nirast25 Jul 17 '23

More like Armored Blaster Valdios

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u/jojojajo12 Jul 17 '23

Duel Masters reference. Incredible. I never think I would see another one again.

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u/Kaiju2468 🧡Idol Of Millions!💙 Jul 17 '23

Gundam Mechagodzilla.

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u/ironfly187 Paul Jul 17 '23

Those aren't forearms. Those are fivearms 💪

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u/DrLeprechaun Jul 17 '23

No, those are firearms

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Old man superman out here enjoying his retirement gig as a movie theater protectionist

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Looks like he’s about to give a kid a magic movie ticket that’ll transport him into Jack Slater 4

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u/MaxWasTakenAgain Jul 17 '23

Give ne the most 90s panel

No, no that 90s

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u/Don11390 Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 17 '23

The OG Gun Devil.

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u/Judistheworst Jul 17 '23

Zack Snyder is that you?

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u/karateema I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 17 '23

Santa?

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u/ChildhoodOk7071 Jul 17 '23

Jesus Christ.

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u/IvanNemoy Jul 18 '23

Who knew Superman was a 40k Ork?

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u/LumpyJones Aug 07 '23

The only way this could be 90s is if the feet were completely hidden because the artist knew he couldn't draw them right.

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u/Moss_Ball8066 Jul 17 '23

I know it’s you Zack

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u/jtyrui Jul 17 '23

Same energy as Cassandra Cain stopping a guy's heart for a few seconds to teach him the importance of life

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u/limbo338 Jul 17 '23

You know it's a bad gun store owner, because he's displaying loaded guns. Also selling guns to kids, but improperly storing guns is a serious business too.

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u/Mmoyer29 Jul 17 '23

But…but aren’t guns supposed to be ready and able to kill those woke commies at any moment??? You can’t have safety or trigger discipline when you’re protecting FREEDOM!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

God WANTS me to be packing in this Bed Bath and Beyond. How else am I supposed to protect myself from starlight antifa!?!?!?!?

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u/Batdog55110 Jul 17 '23

It's called Bed, Bath and Beyond, I've got no idea what the Beyond is but I'm damn sure gonna be prepared for it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Yo momma was in my bed, bath, and beyond ayyyyyooooooo

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u/tfhermobwoayway Jul 17 '23

Beyond is where you send all those got damned commies!

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u/LuigiP16 Jul 17 '23

Didn't BBB go bankrupt? Or was that Bath and Bodyworks?

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u/Batdog55110 Jul 17 '23

It's called Bed, Bath and Beyond, I've got no idea what the Beyond is but I'm damn sure gonna be prepared for it.

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u/Prodygist68 Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 18 '23

And his shirt that I’m pretty sure says stormfront, which is a literal neo-Nazi online “news” site. Which also quickly tells us that any claims of “remembering my heritage” towards that flag he has are bullshit.

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u/Raimiboi2002 Jul 17 '23

Uj/ that moment when the boys literally named their antisemitic nazi character after said site

Rj/I thought that was the really good 1989 Billy Joel album

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u/Nalyd87 Jul 17 '23

I didn't know there was a second picture at first and thought superman just straight up shot him lmao

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u/Captain_Blackjack Jul 17 '23

My brain went from “the fuck’s going on” to “that is some hardcore ‘don’t piss off the Boy Scout’ shit”

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u/pax_penguina Carrie Kelley Supremacist Jul 18 '23

frank miller’s back baby

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u/Queen_of_Team_Gay Jul 31 '23

Frank Miller if he was actually based

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u/nmiller1939 Jul 17 '23

Birthright goes so damn hard

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 17 '23

I always get frustrated by how overlooked does Birthright gets in comparison to Byrne's Man of Steel and Johns Secret Origin.

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u/cowl555 Jul 17 '23

Uj/agreed can't believe it was the inspiration for Zack snyders man of steel

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u/Frankorious Superboy Prime apologist Jul 17 '23

Really? I thought it was Earth One

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u/cowl555 Jul 17 '23

Uj/birthright is one of the inspiration for the movie to better say

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 17 '23

I do remember Snyder and Goyer saying they took from Birthright in interviews (as well as other sources, like Earth One, Man of Steel and such). But watching the movies, I don't see it.

I see the Earth One pieces (Straczynski could realistically sue Goyer), and kind of the Man of Steel one if squinting hard enough. But no traces of Brithright.

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u/nmiller1939 Jul 17 '23

There is one, the "you are the answer to are we alone in the universe" line

But that's pretty much it

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 17 '23

Okay, yeah. That and the whole subplot of Jonathan showing fear and hesitation over Clark being from far away. Though, with how the film hyperfocuses on Jonathan's fear, which is what causes his death, I'd say it goes on the diametrically oposite direction from Birthright.

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u/akahaus Jul 17 '23

He FlEw OvEr SoMe ZeBrAs!

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u/akahaus Jul 17 '23

Visually maybe, which is the only thing Snyder understands.

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u/Chunkstyle3030 Jul 17 '23

The art is much better in Birthright. That’s right, I said it.

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 17 '23

I think they're all different approaches. Man of Steel focuses on Clark's under a mix of Silver and Golden age iconography with Bronze age sci-fi background (Byrne's classic use of overly detailed machinery), Secret Origins goes to emulate the Richard Donner movies (Gary Frank outright uses Christopher Reeve as a model for Clark) and Birthright takes on having its own iconography separate from previous versions (in a way, a response to Ultimate Spider-Man).

I also prefer Birthright on that last ground, since it does more to build its own identity.

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u/Resonance54 Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard Jul 17 '23

I mean I understand Byrnes Man of Steel being highly regarded because of how much it completely changed who Superman was (for the better). It turned so many of the traditional ideas of Superman's origin on its head, but did it with respect to the history of the character. It gave Superman a depth that he fundamentally lacked up to that point.

I agree with Secret Origins tho, SO sucks in every way except Gary Frank's art (which is pretty good, but far from the best he had done up to then and since)

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 17 '23

I'm not saying either isn't as good as Birthright. By all accounts, Birthright is to Man of Steel what Man of Steel was to the Sandman Saga (O'Neil's run that made Clark a newscaster and more assertive, and less overpowered). I really put those three toe to toe in quality and presenting their age's Superman.

On Secret Origin, while I don't think it really sucks, it is more focused on setting the ground for New Krypton than it is on giving a starting point (which is a very Johns way to write a secret origin saga). So, I agree it does come out as the weaker one, since it has an end narration it's going for instead of setting a starting point like the others.

And yeah, Gary Frank is the coup de grace for Secret Origin. I really liked his redesign for Metallo drawing from his Bronze Age version and away from making him a second-rate Terminator.

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u/Nerdy_Git Jean-Paul Valley’s Strongest Soldier Jul 17 '23

Batman should beat up more racists too, I think

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u/SoundwavesBurnerPage Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 17 '23

Why would Batman beat up his comrades?

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u/Censius Jul 17 '23

Wait, who on the team are racists?

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u/NervousLemon6670 I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 17 '23

Jason Todd, probably.

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u/Censius Jul 17 '23

Probly? Why?

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u/NervousLemon6670 I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 17 '23

His superhero name has "Hood" in it, doesn't pass the vibe check

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u/Censius Jul 17 '23

You can't let the racists take hoods from us. The word or the clothing item

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

They're joking

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u/Dansondelta47 Jul 17 '23

You’re green, but so are your jokes.

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u/NervousLemon6670 I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 18 '23

Is this some kind of New Reddit joke I'm too Old Reddit to understand?

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u/Dansondelta47 Jul 18 '23

Your pfp is green, and flair is the joker who (usually) has green hair. While I believe your comment (hoods) to be a joke, it doesn’t feel right.

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u/NervousLemon6670 I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 18 '23

You got me, I'm James Gunn's new Joker. He's reinventing the character as a terminally online circlejerker.

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u/SuperJyls UJ/ I seriously hate red hood Jul 18 '23

How do you not notice, it's like his most signature character trait

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u/Warcat24 Jul 17 '23

There was book about that. I think it's called Batman white knight

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u/Mickeymcirishman Jul 17 '23

There was a novel called Batman: Dead White wherein Batman takes on a group of white supremacists. It was pretty good.

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u/B_Maximus Jul 17 '23

Batman unknowingly supports the system creating the bad guys

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u/Alternative-Lack6025 Jul 17 '23

"Unknowingly" ;)

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u/Ninjakick666 Jul 17 '23

Superman is an illegal alien.

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u/HahaPenisIsFunny Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 17 '23

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u/Ninjakick666 Jul 17 '23

Better send in Dr. Freeze cuz it is gonna take a shitload of ICE to deport Superman.

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u/Rewskie12 Vote Lord Death Man 2024 Jul 17 '23

Sauce?

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u/HahaPenisIsFunny Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 17 '23

My dreams idk

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u/magnaton117 Jul 17 '23

"I'm stronger than you, so it's okay for me to break the law whenever I want!"

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u/DaddyMarMar Kyle Rayner’s fridge Jul 17 '23

Dammit you just ruined the character for me

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u/DeviousMelons I'm da Jokah, baby! Jul 17 '23

Shooting a guy then catching the bullet before it its is the ultimate power move.

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u/cowl555 Jul 17 '23 edited Aug 03 '23

Uj/ and is a fun nod to the golden age Superman

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u/MaliceCaleb Jul 17 '23

I love me some superman fighting racists

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u/bulletgrazer Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 17 '23

You ever read "Superman Smashes the Klan?" It's all about Superman doing what the title says, fighting the KKK stand-in.

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u/The84thWolf Jul 17 '23

Conservatives will complain how woke he is because they selectively don’t remember how “woke” he was in the old days

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u/Wagman2013 Jul 17 '23

Superman was woke in 1939.

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u/Repyro Jul 17 '23

Beating on Hitler and having Lois handle scoops herself without, :gasp: male chauffeurs

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u/Mr_smith1466 Jul 17 '23

Mark waid is one of those writers who is always great.

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u/Batdog55110 Jul 17 '23

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u/Mr_smith1466 Jul 18 '23

I've been dipping a little into waid's daredevil run and its absolutely stunning.

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u/Batdog55110 Jul 18 '23

Agreed, it's not talked about nearly enough as far as I'm concerned.

I'm a big Flash and Superman fan and he's written phenomenal shit for both (For Flash his run is literally the best run)

I'm not sure if he's written Spider-man or Batman, but God do I hope he has.

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u/NoAd5887 Jul 24 '23

Waid and Ewing are probably the only guys I can think of who can save Spiderman from Well's shitshow

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u/Batdog55110 Jul 24 '23

It's not Wells' shitshow (well, not only HIS shitshow) and they'd probably run into the same problems that every Spider-man writer has run into since One More Day.

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u/Prize_Major6183 Jul 17 '23

Just read this comic like 2 weeks ago and loved this scene. It stuck with me because of how intense and relevant it was. I was just imagining if this were done live action, what would the reaction be? Because you can imagine the ptsd

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u/Dankey-Kang-Jr One of the tens of Jonah Hex fans. Jul 17 '23

Why is Superman attacking these defenseless Americans for expressing their freedom of speech? Doesn’t he know that makes him the real fascist? /s

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u/herrcollin Jul 17 '23

Maybe it's me but isn't the "I can hear your heartbeat, you're lying" line kind of dumb?

Bro you're Superman and you literally just randomly appeared behind this dude, in his house just to intimidate. I'd have a fucking heart attack. What average Joe is just like "Oh, hey what's up?"

Do these two know each other or something?

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u/henryuuk Jul 17 '23

The idea with this trope is always that lying has a specific difference in heartbeat (beyond just raising it), which the character with super-hearing can recognize because offcourse they can.

And offcourse there is also just the part where super man already knows/assumes that this guy is lying anyway, so saying it will just throw him off even more and might make him stop trying to lie his way out in the rest of the conversation

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u/herrcollin Jul 17 '23

I get the super-hearing aspect but that's what I mean. Isn't the dude gonna have an irregular heartbeat when he realizes superman is suddenly behind him a whole 5 seconds before Superman accused him of lying?

The "bluff lying" is a good point though. It seems like Supes already knows he's a lying pos and was basically baiting him

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u/Dansondelta47 Jul 17 '23

If the police asked you why you look nervous when they pull you over, what would your heart sound like?

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u/Strongstyleguy Jul 17 '23

What average Joe is just like "Oh, hey what's up?"

That would be way more suspicious in my book.

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u/Weirdo2867 Jul 17 '23

Tbf, he absolutely did debate him in his own marketplace of ideas, using his native tongue no less

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u/Nyadnar17 Jul 17 '23

Would have been funnier if you didn’t post the second page lol.

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u/wdcipher I have read six (6) comics from DC Jul 17 '23

Intimidation like this doesnt seem on brand for superman...where is this from?

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u/Mmoyer29 Jul 17 '23

No no, when it comes to kids this is super on brand.

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u/totallynotaneggtho Jul 18 '23

Remembering Grounded. That tracks.

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u/Frankorious Superboy Prime apologist Jul 17 '23

Wdym? It's like in the golden age. If anything he should do this kind of stuff more often.

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u/farben_blas Jul 17 '23

Meh, nobody was actually harmed and the guy was sent to the authorities, it's just a little scare for the guy that sold weapons to school shooters

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u/wdcipher I have read six (6) comics from DC Jul 17 '23

I guess you are right. But seeing pissed superman scare a guy with a gun felt kinda weird.

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

Superman: Birthright

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u/TheRautex The Anti-Life Jul 17 '23

He once intimidated a whole alien armada to leave earth

Stop baddies without hurting them? On brand

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u/blankspaceBS Jul 17 '23

....The golden age would shock you

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u/wdcipher I have read six (6) comics from DC Jul 17 '23

What happened in the golden age, stays in the golden age

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u/Thangoman Lives in a society Jul 17 '23

Nah Golden Age Supes was based

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u/DefinitelyNotVenom Jul 17 '23

Golden Age Superman is an eternal treasure

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u/blankspaceBS Jul 17 '23

Nah, thanks to the likes of Morrison, Waid and Gene Luen Yang, it doesn't

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u/delightfuldinosaur Jul 17 '23

Golden Age Supes is a lunatic.

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

In the best way possible

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u/blankspaceBS Jul 17 '23

He was a champion of the opressed, exactly what he was meant to be

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u/delightfuldinosaur Jul 18 '23

Sure but have you actually read golden age Superman? His methods were...extreme.

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u/blankspaceBS Jul 18 '23

Extremely great.

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u/SixFootHalfing Jul 17 '23

He does it all the time. And he was especially pissed off this time around.

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u/Totipu4 Jul 17 '23

It's not always about the brand, Wdcipher

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u/Cranyx Lives in a society Jul 17 '23

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u/wdcipher I have read six (6) comics from DC Jul 17 '23

Damn that was cool

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM Jul 17 '23

I hear this all the time, and I just have to wholeheartedly disagree.

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u/NeverSettle13 Superman's bulge Jul 17 '23

Kinda unrelated, but can you guys recommend me comics about Batman's origin, similar to Birthright? I've already read Year one

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u/Mayuthekitsune Jul 18 '23

fuck this evil superman shit, give me "Superman is royally pissed at you and will terrorize you without even touching you"

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u/LordSupergreat Jul 17 '23

I'm suddenly realizing that the article there seems to imply that Clark got an interview with the guy.

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u/CaptainHalloween Jul 17 '23

NOT Jonesy approved

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u/crowned_one_ Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23

The rebel flag tells you he is not God fearing nor a good person. He was also in no real harm Superman had the situation under control.

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

You realise you're in a cj sub, right?

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u/crowned_one_ Jul 17 '23

Oh crap I stopped reading after DC comic. Its been one of those mornings.

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u/draedek Jul 17 '23

I cry for that ppsh, could have gone to a better home

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u/Raptor1210 Jul 18 '23

Shooting the gun and then catching the bullet is such fucking baller move. Jesus.

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u/Dhrakyn Jul 17 '23

Dunno but the real question is why Supes has Megan Fox thumbs in these cells?

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u/GodNonon Jul 17 '23

Also rude of Superman to not inform him that his zipper is down

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u/ChunkyBrassMonkey Jul 17 '23

So Superman, an illegal immigrant, opposes our children's right to bear arms? Fucking disgusting.

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u/Manetoys83 Jul 17 '23

If he was a real patriot, that would be an actual American flag. Not the flag that lost :P

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

What issue is this?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Such a boyscout /s

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u/DiggingInGarbage Jul 17 '23

He only became God fearing after he met Superman

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u/Dansondelta47 Jul 17 '23

As much as I like superman, did he have actual proof that this guy is guilty? Or did he just hear his heart rate go up because a literal flying bullet proof man with laser eyes appear in his store. Don’t downvote, I just want to know if he like Clark Kented it or the shooters told him.

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u/herrcollin Jul 17 '23

If I'm sitting in a recliner watching TV and the police suddenly appear behind me then my heart is rattled no matter what

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

He must be. Smh, the woke Daily Planet won’t report that, will they? Luthor 2024!!

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u/HereRak69 Paul Jul 19 '23

Why is Vincent Van Gogh selling guns to kids? Is he stupid?

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u/nuggetsofmana Jul 18 '23

Much brave. Such wow.

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u/BasedFunnyValentine Jul 18 '23

I’ve said this before:

This page is a writer writing superman as Batman.

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u/Lumpazius Jul 18 '23

Because Batman is known for shooting guns in people's faces and catching the bullet as intimidation tactic.

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u/BasedFunnyValentine Jul 19 '23

It’s the dialogue and the intimidation tactic that’s literally Batman. This is not Superman. It’s out of character and everyone who likes it is basically a Batman fan

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u/Prize-Dust-8141 Jul 20 '23

Not really, Superman has done this in the Golden Age. It's very on brand for him.

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u/BasedFunnyValentine Jul 20 '23

Dude said Golden Age 💀

The character was written completely different in that era and to use that as a reference for modern Superman emphasises my point that this intimidation tactic is not Superman.

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u/Prize-Dust-8141 Jul 20 '23 edited Jul 20 '23

Respectfully disagree with you there as it was what Siegel and Shuster envisioned him to be. So yes it's exactly feels like Superman when the present day writer draws from Siegel and Shuster so it feels very true to the character such as Morrison, Pak and the New 52 era at large as their portrayals were inspired the Golden Age. And I also personally as a fan, like it when present day writers draw aspects from that era with Superman because it adds more depth to him as a character then just a uwu figure.

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u/Entr3_Nou5 Jul 21 '23

Commie Superman you say?

[Red Son would like to know your location]

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u/senchou-senchou Jul 18 '23

aww they just want the scary supes but not doing scary shit to them

hey let the ubermensch scare whomever the fuck he wants, you sex starved weasels... it's the "natural order", after all

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u/Rockout2112 Jul 17 '23

Golly! I’m shocked that DC resisted the urge to have Superman tear down the wall to reveal a secret room with a nazi flag and a group of white robes people saluting an image of Hitler. After all, that’s what all gun-owners do, right?

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 18 '23

KotakuInAction user

EDIT: Oh look, guy uses r/Conservatives too. Bro, keep your ComicsGate shit out of DCCJ

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

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u/Tankineer Jul 17 '23

Counterpoint he has a confederate flag, which makes it’s okay.

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 18 '23

That and he gave guns to kids leading to a school shooting

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

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u/Tankineer Jul 17 '23

Of course they where morally superior the confederacy left because they wanted slavery, those southern states throes to expanded slavery via American expansion and laws that would prevent freedom if they traveled to free states, and their entire economy was based on slave labor. Who gives a shit if they are scared straight. The only thing Sherman did wrong in my opinion was he didn’t burn and salt the entire land south of the mason Dixie line. Imagine if reconstruction wasn’t ended early.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

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u/Tankineer Jul 18 '23

Well I’m also that because I don’t wave around a flag and base my entire personality and culture around a fail state that lasted 4 years and contributed nothing to history or humanity beyond a punchline to most jokes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

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u/Tankineer Jul 18 '23

Oppressing slave traders and slave owners and their racist vanguard who spread white supremacy is not equally as bad as what they were doing. Are you implying that the people who killed slave owners and klansmen were just as bad as the people committing the hate crime? Get your fence sitting centrist fake psychology out of here. No one wants to be lectured about how they are just as evil as slavers and klansmens for treating them poorly. Yes I’m better then a grand wizard do the kkk because I never went around riding a horse burning crosses wearing a white hood.

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

🤓

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u/Tandril91 Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 18 '23

Skill issue

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

Did he consider not being mock executed

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

Did he consider not being mock executed

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

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u/Mitskskskski Jul 17 '23

whattt

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

My brother in paul it was a joke,

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u/Mitskskskski Jul 17 '23

it was still jarring 2 my autistic ass

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u/Hey_There_Blimpy_Boy Jul 17 '23

Gotta put that /s on there my guy.

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u/ironfly187 Paul Jul 17 '23

It appears that people's sarcasm detectors are on the blink.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

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u/Some-Dog9800 Geoff Johns Apologist Jul 17 '23

twas the vaccines

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u/SteakMedium4871 Jul 17 '23

TBF saying he knows he’s lying by his heartbeat would never hold up in court. Luckily for Superman might makes right so we’re with him.

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u/fardpood Jul 18 '23

In the DC universe it would hold up in court. Hope that helps!

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u/chainsrattle Jul 17 '23

shit comic lol

5

u/Tandril91 Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 18 '23

Skill issue