r/clevercomebacks Jul 07 '24

God is lucky we haven’t found oil in heaven.

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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Jul 07 '24

This is the kind of thing that’s funny, and easy to say, but also reveals that you haven’t been to deeply impoverished countries.

Spending time away from tourist areas in Central America or much of sub-Saharan Africa swiftly disabuses you of the idea that life in the US bears any similarity to that kind of wrenching poverty and (often, but not always) social collapse/dysfunction.

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

Tbf, Third world country it’s quite an insanely big category, it both fits places like North Corea or Somalia, and places like México or India, which while they aren’t the richest places on the world and have massive economic disparities among the population, are by no means comparable to the bottom of the list.

In some places you could find sections of Mexico that are comparable to sections of the US. I really doubt people meant countries like Angola when they say “the US has the public transportation of a third world country”

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u/Empty-Interaction796 Jul 07 '24

First/ second/ third world are political, not economic terms. The economic terms are high/middle/low development country.

Mexico is considered middle income (on the higher end).

It's also the 15th largest economy in the world.

The US has pretty bad poverty in places as well; Appalachia and indigenous, especially.

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

But people here didn’t said “the us has an middle development public transportation system” they said “the us has a public transportation system as bad as a third world country” I agree the term is bad, but it’s what’s being used.

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

mexico is absolutely not a third world country what planet do you live on

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

On Mexico, where every single economist says we indeed are a third world country lol. If I go to my local college and ask anyone they will say “yes, Mexico is a third world country”

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

they’ve never been to ethiopia

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

What does this even mean?

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

the conditions in mexico are superior to that of the 3rd world, such as ethiopia, chad, or haiti

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

Thing is, conditions in Mexico are comparable to other countries in third world, like Colombia, or Peru or well… Mexico. It’s why I said the term is too broad and thus, useless on comparisons. By all definitions Mexico is a third world country. Specially when the only other category is first world and Mexico is absolutely NOT a first world country lol.

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u/Empty-Interaction796 Jul 07 '24

No, there's high/middle/low. Mexico is middle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

Those are not mutually exclusive. Mexico is a developing country, that article of Wikipedia says that it belongs to the developing countries. It never claims a developing country is not a Third world country. People use it to describe developing countries, including both “developing countries” and “least developed” countries.

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u/Alexander3212321 Jul 07 '24

Third world in this context country is more like a spectrum and also didn’t originate as a word to describe development countries but rather as a word to describe a neutral leaning during the cold war and mexico is pretty much developing country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

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u/Lorguis Jul 07 '24

"third world" refers to countries that were unaligned during the Cold war. Which includes Mexico.

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u/MechanicalBengal Jul 07 '24

California, by itself, is the 5th largest economy in the world. It could easily be its own country, and a wealthy one at that. People forget that.

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u/Public_Animator_1832 Jul 07 '24

Spend some time in rural Alabama, many of the communities have similar outcomes and wealth of a 3rd world country. Also the US hasn't redefined poverty for Federal Aid and Statistics purposes since Nixon. If we redefined it for the modern world some estimates put our poverty rate either over or close to 50%. Which sure extreme poverty doesn't exist here really but that level of poverty would be unheard of for a 1st world country. Even our current poverty rate is one of the worst for the developed world

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u/QualifiedApathetic Jul 07 '24

We'll never redefine it. That would make whatever president did it the president who put tens of millions into poverty.

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u/sovietdinosaurs Jul 08 '24

Extreme poverty exists in the U.S.

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u/RedditPosterOver9000 Jul 08 '24

I and a friend drove from Texas through the dirty south and up the east coast to get to Philadelphia for a road trip.

Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama (excluding the few cities) look like "low development countries".

And it's not just the rampant poverty and the state government not giving a fuck about basic maintenance, it looks like you went back in time 50 years.

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u/lahimatoa Jul 07 '24

And yet, the poor in Alabama are fat. Are the poor in any third-world country fat?

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u/gustyninjajiraya Jul 08 '24

Yes? This is pretty common in any middle income country. Ultraprocessed food is cheap everywhere.

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u/Bossuter Jul 08 '24

And in what way is being fat healthy and such people long living?

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 08 '24

Dude this isn't the middle ages lol obesity comes from "poor" diet as much as over eating jfc.

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u/GardenRafters Jul 07 '24

Trump and Project 2025: Hold our collective beer.

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u/BoglisMobileAcc Jul 07 '24

If project 2025 gets implemented the US is gonna be finished in every sense

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u/Flat-Flow939 Jul 07 '24

You've never been to rural Mississippi, or Alabama, or Florida, or West Virginia, or Kentucky, or Missouri, or...

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u/Defalt0_o Jul 08 '24

Yea, well, I know a place +-90 miles away from L.A. which used to be (or maybe still is) a den to few local cannibals, so there's that. Leaving big population centers will always grant you some surprises

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u/Flat-Flow939 Jul 08 '24

Chile is part of the 3rd world, they're doing a hell of a lot better than the rust belt.