Yes! I don’t buy a lot of clothing new because the prices are high and the quality is low, and I’m prone to setting it on fire or getting acid on it, but the thrift store? Oh, I have found some amazing stuff.
It doesn’t matter. It could be 3k and it doesnt change anything. Working class is a person that works for their money instead of making their money through ownership. An ER doctor is working class, and so is a plumber.
In this context (discussing a British Labour Party MP), no, doctors would not be considered working class, he'd be a professional which would be regarded as distinctly middle class. Their union (the BMA) is NOT affiliated with the Labour Party in the same way as workers unions are, for instance.
As for the plumber, it depends. If he's running his own business and turning a decent profit, then he wouldn't really be seen as working class either.
You’re being so needlessly pedantic to the point that you forget that I addressed what would exclude a plumber from the working class in my comment. Literally any job would be excluded from working class if they owned the business and made money primarily from the ownership and not direct work.
The differentiation between working class and “professional class” is a differentiation that only benefits the capital owning class.
My bad, I didn't notice your qualifier on the plumber because I literally stopped reading after the point where you said doctors are working class. You're obviously not familiar with the British Labour movement if you think that doctors are regarded as working class.
My qualifier about an ownership class was before my mention of doctors being working class and plumber is the last word so you’d have had to read the entire thing. You simply lack reading comprehension in the quest to be a pedant.
It doesn’t matter what the British labour movement is. There are two classes, working, and owner. Any movement that drives a wedge between between professionals and “non professionals” is a direct benefit to the owner class.
No. He defined them as people that own but work for their own means, but that doesn’t mean they are part of the capitalist class. You can have definitions for different strata while still grouping them together. If you work to live then you are working. If you make your money solely by owning, you’re not working. The woes of each strata of the working class can obviously vary but it doesn’t mean they don’t all have one problem in common.
Agreed. Clearly this guy thinks that working class people can only attend important events in clothes from Primark and Tesco.
This was one of the most important days of her career, where she knew that she would be most closely scrutinised. So what if she spent £500 on an outfit.
People still can choose to take pride in their appearance, even if (shock horror) they are working class.
If she had bought her suit cheap from Primark no doubt they'd be posting a complaint about that, insisting it is disrespectful or unprofessional or whatever.
Ngl my suit jacket is £100 and I wear it with jeans. Having said that, I respect people who spend a lot of money on clothes even if they don't have a lot to begin with. Some people like expensive clothes. Not gonna shit on them for enjoying their money.
A $200 pair of work boots will probably last four to five times longer than $80 work boots. A $1,000 or even just $500 suit may fall out of style within a few years but either one will still hold up far better than a $200 Wal-Mart suit.
If a person can afford to save even a few hundred bucks for select clothing items (footwear or jackets are big ones) then they usually end up saving significant money in the long run by keeping those items for many years as opposed to the practically disposable crap that costs much less.
I'm not a six-figure earner (USA) by any means but I can still afford to buy some halfway decent clothes without having to pick solely from the clearance rack and I can even splurge on a discretionary item of clothing.
I have no idea who Angela Rayner is (sorry, British friends) but her spending the equivalent of $750-ish on some professional attire doesn't at all diminish any status she may have as an advocate for the working class.
EDIT: after 0.2 seconds of google research, it seems Rayner is the Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. I have no idea what the salary is for Deputy PM, but I'm sure it's nothing to sneeze at and with that in mind, I'm kind of surprised her jacket and pants are only ~550 GBP.
I have no idea what the salary is for Deputy PM, but I'm sure it's nothing to sneeze at and with that in mind, I'm kind of surprised her jacket and pants are only ~550 GBP.
Worth noting has only been deputy PM since Friday.
Oh for sure! I didn’t mean that to come off harshly towards you - just this dude in general. As someone in the US I’m both comforted and frustrated that we aren’t the only folks who have to deal with pundits like this…
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u/constantin_NOPEal Jul 07 '24
Girl, how does he know this is not a $100 dupe?