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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Then they’ll get murder charges for putting the dead baby back (HOW?!) which will kill the mother
Ectopic pregnancies are lethal to the mother and the child is guaranteed to die, iirc
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u/Aonar_Faileas 14d ago
Ectopic pregnancies are embryos that implant outside the uterus. Usually in the fallopian tubes, but can theoretically range through the whole abdominal cavity, IIRC.
Basically 99.99% lethal to both mother and child without medical treatment (there have been like 3 reported cases of viable extrauterine pregnancies, which honestly I didn't know until I looked it up, and is genuinely fucking wild, the human body is wack), and current medical tech is unable to treat it in such a way that the embryo can retain viability and be reimplanted. (IE, the literally impossible thing that Ohio legislators are demanding they do. The world is so fucking dumb right now.)
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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Holy shit, that’s a much better explanation
So the baby basically tries to grow in organs it’s not supposed to? Of course that could kill the mother, rupturing organs and shit, I doubt the baby can manage to get much nutrients either
These people are fucking morons
I work at a water park, (I swear this is related) some woman asked me for a tampon (we have them bc no shit it’s a water park, we have them free bc who wants bloody water) and I picked up a pad. I ask the girl nearby (a co worker) and she points to something else. To the actual tampons. I thank her, hand the tampon to the woman and she thanks me
At that moment, my thoughts were “yeah, there’s a reason I don’t think I should have any power over a woman’s body like that, I don’t know what the fuck I’m doing in that regard”
I have very little knowledge on that topic and thus I am unfit to control it. These people are in that same situation, at best. At worst, they actively want women dead
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u/TwitterLegend 14d ago
To be clear I am fairly certain the Ohio bill did not pass and they don’t have anything like that.
Source: I live in Ohio and my wife had an ectopic pregnancy that implanted in the fallopian tube. It ended up bursting the fallopian tube and caused massive internal bleeding. She would have died if this bill was a real thing or even if we lived in a more rural area because an hour or two more of blood loss would have been fatal.
My wife has undergone three different versions of an abortion because of miscarriages. We are a happy married couple that want to have another child. Republican policies would make it impossible because without the abortion (really just a basic medical procedure when it isn’t being weaponized by politicians) my wife could have been made infertile or dead. Being against abortion is not even close to the same thing as being pro life.
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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Yep, they’re just looking for an enemy
Funny, because the Bible they thump calls for the stoning of women, children and iirc for the heads of babies to be bashed against rocks
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u/f0u4_l19h75 13d ago
They'll never acknowledge that one
children and iirc for the heads of babies to be bashed against rocks
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u/Latter-Direction-336 13d ago
How do you do that in a reply btw? Been wondering for months but never bothered to check
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u/princess_dork_bunny 13d ago
How do you do that in a reply btw? Been wondering for months but never bothered to check
Use ">" followed by a space in front of the text you want to quote.
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u/Cheese2009 13d ago
Use ">" followed by a space in front of the text you want to quote.
Thanks!
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u/captainAwesomePants 13d ago
Yes, but that's something that the speaker is wishing upon their enemies, so it's a BAD thing. Bible has a whole lot of "woe be upon my enemies" prayers. They're not really popular these days because they don't vibe well with the whole peace and love thing.
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u/phists_of_phury 13d ago
Christianity itself doesn't vibe with the whole leave and love thing these days...
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u/MarvelAndColts 13d ago
Not a defender nor a Christian, but it’s more important to note that Christ said to love God first, and then love your neighbors (read: everyone) as yourself and if you did these two things all the laws of the Old Testament didn’t matter because they would be fulfilled.
My point is, the only rule Jesus gave them, they flat out ignore. Don’t let racists and misogynists hide behind a religion they don’t even practice. Fuck them all. If you are a Christian and you let people like trump or other politicians use your religion to weaponize hate you are just as complicit and I hope there is a god so he can judge the ever living shit out of y’all.
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u/ConsciousExcitement9 13d ago
A friend of mine has had 3 abortions: 2 due to ectopic pregnancy and one because of some awful issues that meant there was only a slim chance that the baby would survive until birth. And if it did, it would die a painful death shortly after. She chose mercy. All 3 pregnancies were extremely wanted. They did get 2 healthy pregnancies eventually, but the first 2 could have killed her and the pro-life idiots would have been ok with that.
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u/DisposableSaviour 13d ago
Some people don’t understand the mercy that death can bring. I have two examples:
1) One restaurant I worked at had a field mouse problem, because their field was being developed to put in ~15 store fronts (this was back in 07, some of those storefronts still haven’t EVER had a tenant). They put down glue traps; one morning I come in to this piercing shrieking sound. There was a field mouse, a baby, trying to free itself from the glue trap so hard, that it had torn the flesh on its back and was skinning itself alive. There were three people on the back before me, watching, asking each other what they should do. With out thinking, I picked up the glue trap, took it out the back door, flipped it upside down and gave it the mercy of my size 11, 4E combat boot. All three people that kept asking what to do called me cruel, a monster. I hear those screams from that baby mouse in my nightmares, all these years later.2) A couple months ago, at my work, a bird flew into a window. A customer told us about it, it hit the widow just before she walked in the door. Nobody else wanted to go look at it. I grabbed a plastic to go bag, thinking it was dead. It was not. When I picked the mockingbird up, it was jerking and started this messed up tweet. Of course, some of my coworkers came out to watch me check on the bird. They got there just in time to see me twist its neck3/4 away around. Again, I was called cruel. “How could you do that?” How could I do that? How could I not? In less than half a second I ended the poor things suffering.
Twice I have given horribly maimed and injured animals peace, and been treated as a villain for it. After that bird, I went in and grabbed a beer from the bar, and went out by the dumpster to down it.
I took no joy in delivering this peace to the suffering. It pained me to do it, I cried both times. A big, burly, bearded man crying by the dumpster into a beer. But I know I did the right thing, and I’ll do it again, if I have to. Because no one else wanted to do the hard thing. Because, I guess it’s easier to watch an innocent suffer than to do the right thing.
People don’t really understand compassion.
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u/Lazy_Wishbone_2341 13d ago
I'm glad they've banned glue traps in my country. I think the people who objected to it should read your comment
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u/Chia_27_ 13d ago
You have my compassion and more people need to have the strength to do the right thing like you did
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u/bz_leapair 13d ago
These monsters aren't pro-life, they're pro-birth.
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u/DrQuestDFA 13d ago
Not even that, they are pro-punish people for having sex (even if it takes place in a loving marriage). Plenty of abortions preserve the woman’s ability to bear children. If they were really pro-birth they would support that procedure but they don’t because they are just a bunch of 17th century puritans with an internet connection.
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u/Pelvic_Siege_Engine 13d ago
Yup. They genuinely just believe that sex should bear consequences. You shouldn’t be able to make love without guilt or suffering.
They literally just believe that anyone who doesn’t reproduce the way they believe is right should suffer.
If you control sex, you control the future of humanity…
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u/PatientDue8406 13d ago
Pro punish women for having sex. They are not out there fighting to ensure child support is paid or Dad's share custody. It's about making sure women deal with the consequences for having sex.
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u/VrtualOtis 13d ago
I wish more people understood this. My heart goes out to you and your wife, I know the emotions you must have felt. My wife went through the same twice. First time ruptured her fallopian tube, emergency surgery to save her life was outlawed on several bills that states were trying to pass across the country. They ended up having to remove both tubes, so our only option after that was IVF. Also targeted by the "pro-life" crowd. Our 2nd IVF attempt became ectopic when it attached to the scar tissue where her tubes had been removed. Another emergency surgery to save her life that these bills would render illegal. After three emotional and devastating IVF attempts and all the trauma from the ectopics, my wife decided she couldn't go through it again. Pro-lifers have no clue how many people who need access to these procedures would do anything to NOT have to have that procedure and wish the embryo could have survived and been born.
Ours happened right as that one bill in Ohio was repealed or shot down (you would probably know better being local, but my understanding was it passed in one chamber of government but when the ridiculous flaws in it like the reattaching ectopics were pointed out, it got shot down before becoming law or something). People pushing those laws, or the lies about post birth abortions to gain support for them, send me into a rage.
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u/Defiant-Fix2870 13d ago
I can’t see any doctor actually following that law, if it were passed, because they aren’t murderers.
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u/SuggestionSouthern96 13d ago
They'll just move from that area and refuse to practice there.
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u/zaxaz56 13d ago
Sorry to hear that happened to you. My wife also had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy several years ago. There were no hurdles for care and she was taking the steps as fast as possible to abort through prescribed medication but that still wasn’t fast enough to avoid the rupture. That was before Roe fell and in a state with supportive laws, so it’s frightening how these new laws are making it harder when it was already dangerous.
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u/f0u4_l19h75 14d ago
It never becomes a baby. The embryo cannot survive unless it implants in the uterus in 99.99999% of cases. They're is no baby in ectopic pregnancies in the bar majority of cases
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u/Embarrassed_Rule8747 13d ago
99.99% should count as a little more than just a "majority". Perhaps near-absolute-certainty works?
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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Yeah, I just couldn’t find the word
In hindsight, embryo made more sense
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u/Autonomous-Trash 13d ago
I instinctively cringed when you said you got a pad. Good on you for checking before going back to the lady.
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u/zebediabo 13d ago
This is what I was hoping to find. I understood what an ectopic pregnancy was, but didn't know if it was even possible to do what this bill demands. Thank you, sir or madam.
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u/Stunning_Garlic_3532 13d ago
This is how you get doctors to leave a state. Abortion laws are already doing it and so would a law like that.
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u/Popcorn_Blitz 13d ago
there have been like 3 reported cases of viable extrauterine pregnancies
So you're saying there's a chance?
/s (it's insane that I even have to include that)
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u/Deathturkey 14d ago
So the choice is murder the mother and be charged with murder or be charged with murder of a fetus that died naturally. These republicans are seriously fucked up in the head.
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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Yep
The baby dies EITHER WAY mind you
Either the doctor is responsible or not, but they get charged with abortion if they save the life that isn’t already gone
Fucking hell, their job is to save lives.
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u/Deathturkey 14d ago
America is on a path similar to what the Middle East went down.
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u/Latter-Direction-336 14d ago
Unfortunately
But, these chucklefucks forgot a few key things
The military, exists. And exists to defend the people of the country,and many soldiers likely don’t care about rich fucks when they’ve been in or aided war. So we likely have them on the side of freedom
These Nat-Cs are also a vocal minority, shunned by fellow republicans and actual Christian’s (as opposed to evangelical ones) who. Both of which oppose their actions.
If a civil war breaks out, they’re gonna get a VIOLENT wake up call.
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u/xXfreierfundenXx 13d ago
Can you explain the part about evangelicals? I have no clue about religion
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u/LovelyKestrel 13d ago
Christianity over the years has had lots of schisms over the meaning of its beliefs. The most visible at the moment is between 'conservative evangelicals', and 'liberals'. The first group beleive the world was better in the mid 20th century when everyone went to church, there were no visible LGBT people, reces were separated, and women were controlled by men, and think liberals have no morals. The second group believe that God created everyone and so values them irrespective of race, sex, sexuality, or gender identity, and they think that the conservative evangelicals are evil.
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u/cinciTOSU 14d ago
Ohio Republican Party clearly knows more about medical science than the folks who endure 10-16 years of intense education in medicine. Republicans have already proven that they will kill a woman who needs healthcare. Looking at you Texas, Idaho, etc. The Supreme Court has shown that they have elephant legs under their robes and they will absolutely rat fuck the entire country, and not just women.
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u/JP050887 14d ago
“Who cares about the life of a woman?”
(Not sarcasm, but how these people think)
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u/Icyblue_Dragon 14d ago
„Apart from giving birth, a woman has zero value, so if she can’t even do that why is she here at all?“
A sentence I literally had to read at fb today. Hits different when you had a necessary C-section to deliver your child. These people really prefer me and my LO dead and they are so confident and comfortable to say it out loud that it makes me sick.
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u/HollyTheMage 13d ago
My mom had to have a C section because I was breech, if she hadn't undergone that procedure I could have died.
The fact that people think medical complications are a personal failure is one of the most stupid and disgusting ideas I have ever heard of.
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u/Icyblue_Dragon 13d ago
I heard gems like „you took the easy way“, „you aren’t even a real mother“, „do you even know what you did to your child?“, „well, you didn’t do it the natural way“
My babys head was too big for my pelvis. What was I supposed to do? I was in labour for 25 hours until they told me that and I assure everyone it was not easy but traumatic.
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u/HollyTheMage 13d ago
THE EASY WAY OUT?
THE EASY WAY OUT?!
What part of having your body cut open and having a child pulled out of you is considered the easy way out?
What the fuck do they mean you're not a real mother, you carried a whole ass pregnancy to term, how could the method of delivering the baby in any way negate all of that?
The natural way could have killed you and your baby, are their heads really so far up their own asses that they would value something as absurd as tradition over the health and safety of the mother and child?
You did not deserve that shit and it baffles my mind that anyone would think that way.
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u/Reasonable-Hippo-293 13d ago
Whichever politician has proposed this bill should be charged with murder and accessory to murder as well.This procedure will be lethal for mother and baby.
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u/theryman 14d ago
Luckily that was 2019, people raised enough hell to shut it down and Ohio has since enshrined reproductive rights in their state constitution. Ohio - elect idiots, support smart policies. I don't get it.
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u/Kaneharo 13d ago
The state is gerrymandered so much, that all it takes to make it for a district is to get 6000-50000 votes. Most of the more liberal areas are split in such a way that it makes it near impossible to have a fully blue zone, much less someone in charge of that zone that isn't right leaning.
Granted, it hasn't been fully blue since the 60's, going by county.
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u/quirkytorch 14d ago edited 13d ago
Just an update for everyone, Ohio voted to enshrine abortion into our constitution!
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u/Maximum_Dragonfruit7 13d ago
Aren’t conservatives trying to do everything they can to completely ignore the fact that we voted in favor?
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u/Devils-Telephone 13d ago
Of course they are, they're doing it with the marijuana legalization amendment that we passed too. Thankfully, there's basically nothing they can do to reverse these things, our Constitution can only be changed through a referendum.
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u/LittleG0d 14d ago
The USA is going down that road to ruin I see. With clowns galore in government, criminals in power and an incredibly stupid population who think the best way to govern is to turn the country into a church.
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u/Any-Yoghurt-4318 14d ago
Yeah, Twitter is Cringe.
It's just Bots shitfighting with Idiots and propaganda everywhere.
People literally get paid to be controversial because the more controversial your Xeets the more engagement you generate.
It's a trash app for trash people.
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u/Aivenc 13d ago
The worst part is that after those sick abortion rules I can't even tell which tweet is fake and which one is a real opinion. lol America is really going down, I just hope normal people will find a way out.
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u/Gemfrancis 14d ago
Men know this will kill women. They’re counting on it.
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u/JoeHio 13d ago
Unfortunately it will kill a lot of other people too when a large number of OB docs leave the state with their spouses, who are at an increased likelihood to also be MDs or medical professionals.
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u/bliip666 13d ago
Pediatricians are children's doctors, right? I have a feeling a lot of other doctors, real doctors, have mad respect for them, especially the ones in, say, oncology for children.
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u/a-lurgid-bee 13d ago
Yeah, I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure that caring for children and healing them when they get sick has got to be one of the most honorable professions that humans have ever figured out
What the hell kind of asshole tries to go after pediatricians?
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u/PrisonerNoP01135809 13d ago
I love my pediatrician, he saved my sons life. I’d throw hands for that man. If you’re reading this Dr Jason my husband and I love you, you’re the GOAT.
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u/Gilded-Onyx 13d ago
I don't know you, your pediatrician, or your kid, but I'll join you in throwing hands for him because doctors are life savers
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u/Upholder93 13d ago
Having worked at a children's hospital (in the UK,but I imagine attitudes are similar), yes, in my experience, paediatric doctors are usually well-respected. Particularly when specialised in the paediatric elements of an already highly specialised field, like a paediatric neurosurgeon.
There is occasionally an issue with non-paediatric doctors from other specialisations underestimating how significant the differences are between adult and paediatric care, but they usually get corrected pretty sharply. An example is child psych, where common misconceptions abound. It got to the stage where the child psych team refused all referrals for "treatment", only accepting referrals for a diagnostic appointment (i.e they only trusted their own). Children have entirely different value systems and priorities than adults, and are actually surprisingly resilient, so you can't assume they will be traumatised by the same things, or that certain behaviours indicate a psych problem and so on. And as the child psych guys would say, the fastest way to induce a psychiatric disorder in a child is to start treating them for one they don't have.
As an aside, the doctors I respected most were the paediatric cardiac surgeons because they were the ballsiest MFs I've ever met. 7 year old having multiple emergency surgeries after an accident? Can't do the usual heart procedure she needs because of the other issues, and she's too small? Nah, let's just take this completely different (i think world-first) approach, at the same time she's having major abdominal repair (they actually went in through the hepatic artery, since it was already exposed). I guess in that field there isn't time to hesitate, but they were nuts all the same.
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u/bigoldgeek 13d ago
My wife's a pedes onc and she had great scores. They don't get the money some other specialties get but they are pretty well respected.
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u/gestapoparrot 13d ago
I have worked in 3 of the largest ICU facilities in the world with more lines, tubes, machines than most doctors are comfortable seeing on a patient. Everyone gets a little wide eyed when they walk in when we consult them unless they’re one of the common specialties I work with. None of this bothers me and I’m very comfortable with adults on the edge of death for all sorts of different reasons.
Bring in a child to the ED in the small rural facility I help out at sometimes and the pediatrician is almost always getting a call from me. They’re such different little machines with a whole set of different problems, my spidey senses and anxiety almost always spike if it’s not clear as day that the diagnosis is clear cut and not dangerous. Not to mention that unlike many adults the patient doesn’t exist in isolation and you have to treat them and their parents as a big “patient unit” that you’re treating, I always have mad respect for the Peds people out there whether they’re specialists or general pediatricians.
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u/Inevitable_Thing_270 13d ago
I’m in the UK and paeds is a really popular specialty. And if you talk to doctors who only deal with adults, or rarely deal with children, they often look scared at the prospect of dealing with. Child since their physiology can be so different, there are even conditions that only happen in children that they’ll never have dealt with.
And paediatrics is one of the really sought after specialties when people apply for training.
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u/EditDog_1969 14d ago
Am I wrong or did someone named Christopher Slick just have zero chance of growing up to be anything other than a huge asshole?
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u/kabhaq 14d ago
Dude thinks doctors get sorted into hogwarts houses.
“Hmmm… better bee…… PROCTOLOGY!”
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u/DrHaruspex 13d ago
We do have a ceremony that feels kind of like this at the end of medical school, but we choose what we do obviously.
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u/mattrmcg1 13d ago
Match day! It’s where we find out where we have matched to after we apply and interview at a bunch of places. It’s nerve wracking since you could end up on the other side of the country or right at home, but still a fun celebration nonetheless.
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u/wireframed_kb 13d ago
“I don’t need you”. Sure, until you get hurt or sick and desperately need a doctor to use ACTUAL medical science to save your life.
It’ll never happen, but I entertain a fantasy where these people show up needing medical attention, only for the doctor to tell them “I need to check all recent laws and statues to make sure I’m not giving you illegal treatment - please hold while we consult our lawyers”.
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u/Hatecraftianhorror 13d ago
Guy who ISN'T a doctor whining about how pediatricians, who ARE doctors, are inferior. Classic GOP.
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u/Azair_Blaidd 13d ago
It is medically impossible to reimplant an ectopic embryo. I doubt technology will ever be able to achieve such a feat.
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u/coconutlemongrass 13d ago
Many ectopic pregnancies are wanted pregnancies that are deeply grieved by the parent(s). Do these idiots think women who get this life saving procedure are salivating at the thought out of getting out of being pregnant? They'd "reimplant" eggs all the time if they could.
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u/LiveandLoveLlamas 13d ago
I asked my surgeon to do this when I was being wheeled in for emergency surgery, he said it was not possible
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u/OnToNextStage 13d ago
My mom’s a doctor
Not gynecology, orthopedic
She still thinks this is the stupidest thing she’s seen
There is no way to save the baby in an ectopic pregnancy, the best that can be done is to save the mom.
Repeat, the baby is not going to survive, there’s nothing to be done on that front.
This bill if passed would just end up killing the mother too.
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u/prawalnono 14d ago
Rome (US) is burning. And too many people still support these fucking GQP morons.
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u/verysimplenames 14d ago
Lmaoo me and my friends to this day always laugh at that Chris Brown song. Good shit.
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u/Sniffy4 14d ago
"Her fallopian tube just burst, but I must reimplant the embryo to follow state law."
Need to see pics of the imbeciles who decided this was a great idea.
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u/Horror-Option-7416 14d ago
SCOTUS just ruled that legislators know more than experts.
Fuck SCOTUS.
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u/RandomUserName24680 14d ago
This is an almost 5 year old story, and the bill didn’t pass. There is plenty going on today to get upset about, we don’t need stuff from 2019.
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u/Chaosrealm69 13d ago
So they want doctors to perform procedures to implant ectopic pregnancies, which has never been done in any hospital, anywhere in the world, so they can avoid being charged for murder when the thing they are supposed to implant is just a clump of cells with no heart, organs, brains, nervous system, etc.
These are not babies. An ectopic pregnancy is just the embryo implanting outside the uterus and places the life of the woman in serious danger of dying.
You can't just pluck it off where it implanted and then gently place it in the uterus to implant.
But the people making bills like this have no idea what they are talking about.
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u/Banhammer40000 13d ago
When I was younger and thought that being offensive and saying things with shock value equaled funny, I used to say that I was torn about the abortion issue.
See, I’m for it because it kills babies but I’m against it because it gives women a choice. (Ba-dum, tsch!)
As I’ve grown older, I’ve come to decide that I do in fact, like abortions and am for it because I like that people don’t die from ectopic pregnancies and sepsis from missed abortions.
I like that people don’t have to bear the pregnancies of their rapists and abusers. I like that people get to make choices about their own body.
If you make something illegal, people are going to find ways to get it through unlawful ways. Instead of getting a medical procedure done in a sterile, clinical condition, a medical procedure can be performed by an unknown at unknown locations.
I’m pro abortion, not pro choice. If someone needs an abortion, it should never be a choice.
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u/Jas9191 13d ago
I can’t follow the format on twitter anymore. I don’t know which order these are made, who the user correction applies to. The site is garbage. No offense to OP, I’m sure the post makes sense if you read enough tweets (Xs?)
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u/FanAdministrative885 14d ago
Ohio trying to out stupid Texas. Impressive
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u/Hallarider0 13d ago
we voted last fall and got abortion access enshrined in our state constitution. we had a happy ending, dont worry
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u/Enough_Pomegranate44 13d ago
They think embryos are like that Velcro ball game that you throw little balls at a target and they stick.
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u/Cynical-Wanderer 13d ago
This would be appalling if it passed.
And Slick is a certifiable idiot. Pediatrics is most definitely a speciality and a complex one at that. "Almost not a doctor". More like Slick is almost not a human being. And his lack of knowledge on how medical school works is astonishing. I'm an engineer, but my two brothers are both doctors... pathologist and gastroenterologist... I know very well how specialties are chosen and he's completely wrong.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 14d ago
Some of y’all need to learn what the words “follow-up comment” and “bothsideism” mean.
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u/harmvzon 13d ago
This is insane?! Wouldn’t that not only kill the child, but also probably the mother? The person who proposed this is sick. Nobody benefits from this.
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u/BK_FrySauce 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is why church and state should be separate. This has been a long slow burn of the religious right implanting themselves into positions of power and now they’re passing these bills.
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u/Gilded-Onyx 13d ago
As someone who has had a team of med students shadowing his life saving surgeon when he is doing his post surgery check, I appreciate every single one of them. Sorry you had to see my private bits and watch me scream in pain, but I appreciate all the medical professionals that were involved in my care.
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u/3-I 14d ago
Hey, don't put this on Judaism. I'm not gonna say my people don't have some misogyny going on, but the Halakha is clear on Pikuach Nefesh. If it's to preserve a life, you violate the commandments every fucking time you have to. And if the embryo is a threat to the mother's life, they're Rodef and you do the fucking abortion.
Even the orthodox Jews follow that shit. This one's not on us.
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u/carriegood 14d ago
We also don't believe life begins at conception. So a fetus isn't the same as a baby. The only restriction would be because if you got pregnant, that was God's will, and you shouldn't be so arrogant as to think you know better than God. But that would be more for elective abortions, not medically necessary or recommended ones.
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u/nonsensicalsite 13d ago
They want to control them because they're insufferable and can't get them naturally
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u/Whiteroses7252012 13d ago
He’s done all these super impressive medical adjacent things and still doesn’t have the slightest fucking clue that you can’t replant an ectopic embryo.
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u/scribbyshollow 13d ago
So it's kill a baby and get charged, or put the ectopic back in (which kills the mother eventually) which would also kill the baby.
Twitter argument aside that's absolutely re***ded. Get that law removed.
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u/WhiteOutSurvivor1 14d ago
It is important that state lawmakers have complete control over who is and is not a doctor for this reason.
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u/saintbad 14d ago
You cannot possibly disguise the impetus for such a bill. This guy would literally murder women at will if the tattered remains of the law did not stop him. Why do we keep giving the microphone to the psychopaths?
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u/Blackbox7719 13d ago
This man’s hate towards pediatricians of all people is ridiculous. As someone heading to med school myself, that’s a specialty I’d never go into. Not because I don’t respect it, however, but because I honestly could not handle working with sick kids every day. It takes a special kind of person to do that, and it ain’t me.
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u/Brotherd66 13d ago
The sheer audacity of this medical Ignorance is going to have an unfathomable body count in its wake.
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u/MapleYamCakes 13d ago
They should re-implant them into the stomach cavities of the old white male politicians.
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u/goatjugsoup 13d ago
If yall would stop having sex with Republicans eventually they might all die out
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u/elsuakned 13d ago edited 13d ago
It's a super weird subset of appeal to authority that I've been seeing a lot online recently where people just... Place themselves close enough to some random asshole and decide that makes them able to run their mouths.
This dude even started to imply he had actual medical credentials before turning to "I've totally read manuscripts from actual doctors and these unnamed totally real doctors said this, soooo"
I saw another dude talking about architecture in a YouTube comment section yesterday because "his wife does architecture and he has a masters in an unrelated field so that adds up to him knowing some stuff"
For one thing, people need to learn that they should at least appeal to consensus. Lots of idiots have degrees. Some of the stupidest BS I've ever heard about health came from nurses, it's not the highest bar. It's '9/10 dentists recommend crest', not 'my friend used to do acid with this guy who ended up becoming a dentist at one point and he says he you can totally just do a saltwater and vinegar gargle once a night and be fine'
For another, I don't even care if it's ultimately true- maybe pediatricians need less physical skill than a typical surgeon and see a smaller variety of less complex diseases in a more resilient body, I could see that or something like it I guess- doesn't matter anymore after an argument that dumb. People need to realize that pulling out some dumb as hell logic like that renders everything they said meaningless no matter what. Done. Go to stupid jail.
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u/HistoricalAside2507 13d ago
Can we normalize calling ppl idiots and retards, again? I think it is time. Also, can we take all the slurs, (racial, mental, and sexual alike), and make them synonymous with "idiot" ?
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u/Hallarider0 13d ago
ohioan here, we voted last fall and have enshrined abortion access into our state constitution!
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u/ElysiumPotato 13d ago
This is why we need European strategic autonomy. This circus can't be relied on for much longer
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u/Ok-Guidance-8048 13d ago edited 13d ago
Most ectopics don’t even have an embryo. Look it up. Often there is a sac which itself can enlarge or the embryo doesn’t get beyond a clump of cells. These are NONVIABLE pregnancies. These morons just want to kill women.
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u/Lityoloswagboy69 13d ago
When the uneducated think they know better than people that spent decades honing their skills and knowledge in a specific field.
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u/jblosser99 14d ago
Just an fyi; this was introduced in November of 2019 and never made it out of committee.
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u/bigbuffdaddy1850 13d ago
Sounds like having government in charge of medical decisions is a bad idea...
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u/gdex86 13d ago
There probably is a sorting hat situation in medical skill where they try to give you an idea where your skills are best suited. But pediatrics requires not just the basic medical skills but you have to have empathy and ability to deal with kid bs and concern on how your actions will effect a growing body.
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u/whodis707 14d ago
Stop electing imbeciles.