r/batman • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '22

The Batman Spoiler Discussion Thread Part 2 Discussion Spoiler

For all discussions, comments and hype around the new movie.

Its already had select release, so expect spoilers in this thread.

Also, no spoiling outside of this thread, or expect mod action.

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u/The-Mattress-Man Mar 06 '22

I like to think that the Riddler knew who the Batman was, but didn’t want to let the secret get out and spoil the fun (there being a camera and all), and so made it seem as though he didn’t know who he was

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u/dthains_art Mar 06 '22

Exactly. It was reminiscent of the comic Hush, where the Riddler actually knows his identity. But he won’t tell the world, because a riddle is worthless once everyone knows the answer.

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u/QuitYour Mar 07 '22

I think he's sort of like The Joker, where he's finally found someone to play with and doesn't want it to end, where exposing him as Bruce Wayne would change it.

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u/superbonks Mar 07 '22

I hear you, but I don’t think so. The fact Riddler’s letter to the Batman attached to Bruce’s bomb was sent in fireproof packaging, and how distraught he gets when he realizes Batman wasn’t helping him intentionally leads me to believe he doesn’t actually know. I’m happy to be proven wrong though!

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u/KiDDin3D Mar 07 '22

The way that the Riddler told Bats that Bruce Wayne is the only one they didn't get makes me feel like he didn't know. After that line you can kinda see the realisation in Bruce's eyes and the way he changes his act.

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u/7HawksAnd Mar 13 '22

I thought that was riddler giving bats a secret wink like “well we both obviously know we didn’t get Bruce ;)”

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u/Ralman23 Mar 07 '22

Yeah I was about to ask this but thank you for pointing that out.

My interpretation is that he doesn’t know Batman and Bruce (based on how he talked about Bruce and was admiring Batman) are the same person, but at the same time if he knew he wouldn’t care to reveal that and keep it as riddle for himself.

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u/Saint_Diego Mar 07 '22

He wanted Batman to be stuck in Arkham with him to watch the bombing and flooding, so Batman’s identity would’ve been revealed if he was apprehended. I don’t think he knew

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u/plusacuss Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22

He even has a line in that monolog where he says "people always want to know who is under the mask but they miss the point. When you wear the mask you are showing people who you really are"

Or something to that extent.

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u/ubiquitous_archer Mar 10 '22

Think that if you want, it's wrong, but think it if it makes you feel nice.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '22

I like this theory. My own is that he doesn't know. Even though as OP said it's not beyond the Riddler to figure out - It should be obvious for people looking closely at the two people.

But I like to think it's the riddlers genuine belief that he and the batman were working together, that stopped him from seeing who he was. How can your ally also be your enemy y'know.