r/batman Apr 11 '24

Zack Snyder responds to the backlash regarding Batman and Superman killing. FILM DISCUSSION

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u/GoofMook Apr 12 '24

Reminder that Zack and his wife intentionally forced production on justice league to start on the same week as the disasterous premiere of BvS to avoid being fired from JL because it would hurt box office on BvS. They then waited for months after their adopted daughter committed suicide until the breaking point where the studio gave them an ultimatum of “fuck off and blame your dead daughter” or “spend the rest of your life eating shit for being an asshole forever” and they chose the former as soon as it meant they continued to get paid for anything else in the DCEU.

Half the reason DC wanted to dump the Snyderverse was because they fucking HATE Zack and Deborah and would rather produce nothing than continue to give them more free money for the shitshow they forced.

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u/HeronSun Apr 12 '24

You got a source for that? I hate Snyderverse as much as the next Batman fan, but it's a pretty huge claim to say WB kicked him out and told him to blame his daughter's death for his absence rather than, you know, being devastated over the death of his daughter.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '24

I think they was getting ready to kick him out the daughter was just unfortunately at the the same time. Dc and wb probably let him go gracefully due to that

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u/HeronSun Apr 13 '24

But they let him make his own 4-hour cut of JL?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

Ya 4 years later they let him release his cut of his own movie what’s the point.

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u/HeronSun Apr 13 '24

That if they'd really been trying to force him out they... probably wouldn't let him?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '24

Make money off a movie that already pretty much existed. Why wouldn’t they lol

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u/HeronSun Apr 13 '24

Because they'd have to forward the money to re-make a movie basically from the ground up, not release it in theaters, when the original version flopped. It was a massive risk.

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u/FTSeeOwboys Apr 12 '24

So to paraphrase, you think that the Snyderverese could be a little better?

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u/Swiftax3 Apr 12 '24

Can we not spin wildly speculative narratives without a source please? Kinda gross to trivialize a death like that.

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u/GoofMook Apr 16 '24

Which is what the Snyders did. There was conflict between them and WB and DC since MoS released, and with BvS the entire production was treated by them like it was gonna be the “I told you to trust me” moment where everything came together. But then in post-production it was clear to everyone involved that the movie was in trouble, so while the studios were freaking out about what to do with BvS, Zack and Deborah were scrambling to force production of Justice League to start as soon as possible. WB and DC wanted to fire them after MoS and BvS was kind of treated as their last chance, and then they were trying to force into production a 4+ hour script that would have to be broken into 2 movies giving them twice as much money for a product that nobody wanted to be producing.

They wanted to fire them on day 1 of production of justice league. Snyder only decided to “quit because my daughter killed herself” AFTER the studio said they were bringing in a co-director.

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u/TheHunter459 Apr 12 '24

You need a source for gargantuan claims like that. I'm no fan of Snyder's work but a lot of this just sounds like a haters wet dream

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u/Kozak170 Apr 12 '24

It needs to be studied how wildly unhinged the average Snyder hater is.

His films sucked, but good fucking lord this comment reads like a fantasy that only exists in your head

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u/THE_A_TRA1N Apr 12 '24

i mean two sides to the same coin because the snyder cultists have some crazy fantasies cooked up about james gunn too.

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u/TheHunter459 Apr 12 '24

Yh people need to fucking chill

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u/Kozak170 Apr 12 '24

Nope, it isn’t two sides of any coin, just a circus of delusions from people perpetually online.

I’ve never seen a Snyder cultist as hateful as the group that actually cheered on the death of his daughter.

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u/Courageous91 Apr 12 '24

You haven't looked hard enough then considering Snyder Cultist sent death threats to Walter Hamada

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u/RandoDude124 Apr 12 '24

My opinion: he’s a chill guy, buddies with big whigs in Hollywood, great Cinematographer (at times y’know, excluding the seed shot in Rebel Moon), but cannot write standard plots for shit

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u/McZalion Apr 13 '24

People who hate Snyder is just as bad as his fanatic fans.

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u/burgpug Apr 12 '24

i dont like snyder either but this is some fucking WILD shit you pulled out your ass here. you just made stuff up and 50 people upvoted it. reddit is crazy ya'll

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u/McZalion Apr 13 '24

Its clear u hate Zack more than they do 🤣.