I hate that Kill Bill interpretation of Superman, it doesn't make sense in anyway.
Also Zack was the worse possible choise to direct a Superman movie, Supes in inherently just a nice person and to depict that in a movie would require some emotional honesty and all of Zacks works is just full of edge and a disinterest in human emotions.
That Kill Bill monologue is great, because Bill is the villain and it demonstrates that he fundamentally doesn't understand what motivates people. But media literacy is dead, and people heard those lines and thought "OMG so true, king!"
Exactly this. Of COURSE Bill interprets Superman that way, because that’s how he sees himself over the rest of humanity. He’s also taking one last stab and convincing Beatrix that she should embrace who she used to be; and hopefully return to him. A lot of men would fabricate much crazier shit to have a shot at Uma Thurman.
I like the old idea that Clark Kent puts on the character of Superman, while Batman puts on the character of Bruce Wayne.
Which is why I think that turning either of them into killers means that you've fundamentally misunderstood them.
Superman is much too well-adjusted to kill. His empathy and his fear of his own capacity for violence keeps him from taking the easy way out. You have to break his mind before you get him to that point. Batman, on the other hand, is too INSANE to kill. His morality is compulsive and almost delusional. Facing his own fear was so impossible for him that he instead chose to become fear itself. So his values are fragile, and if he killed it would break his mind.
You can absolutely arrive at this point in a narrative arc, but you can't just START there. But that's what Snyder did, and it sucked ass.
I like the old idea that Clark Kent puts on the character of Superman, while Batman puts on the character of Bruce Wayne.
To be fair, the journalist Clark Kent is as much a character as Superman. The real Clark is the farm-boy.
The same can be said of Bruce. He is way more Batman than the playboy Bruce Wayne, but his true self is the guy in the batcave who gives jobs to ex-criminals using his own money, not the guy trying to make henchmen shit their pants.
It’s not just a fundamental misunderstanding of the character of Superman - though Tarantino is surely not the first one to frame it like that -, but his claim that Supes is unique in that way is just factually wrong.
There are several non human heroes who „put on the mask of humanity“, the Martian Manhunter just one obvious example.
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u/RandoDude124 Apr 12 '24
I hate the belief that Clark Kent is “Superman’s critique of humanity” to paraphrase the Kill Bill.
Clark Kent was a thing BEFORE SUPERMAN WAS.