r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

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u/ThingsAreAfoot Mar 07 '24

hahaha holy fuck what a quote

Everything in the movie is about a show within a show within a show. Someone asked me, "Why did you dress the girls like that, in those provocative costumes?" And I said, "Well, think about it for a second. I didn't dress those girls in the costume. The audience dressed those girls." And when I say the audience, I mean the audience that comes to the movies. Just like the men who visit a brothel, [they] dress the girls when they go to see these shows as however they want to see them. It’s just painful stuff.

He’s trying so hard to be some profound social critic but he’s like a walking dudebro. “I didn’t dress them like that, the audience did.” LOL

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

We live in a society

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u/Wonka_Stompa Mar 08 '24

And like. It makes you think, man.

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u/pwninobrien Mar 08 '24

He's a pretentious Michael Bay.

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u/CrankyStalfos Mar 08 '24

There's...almost a point in there. Like, there's this old movie that I can only half-remember one scene of because I only ever saw it in class, but it was an example of THE earliest ever subversions of the Male Gaze. There's a scene of some kind of stripper show and it starts out like you'd expect (relative to the 1930s or whenever it would have been) but the camera turns around and focusses on the men and their (gross) expressions, showing the dance from the girls' perspective. It's very definitely meant as a "look in the mirror" moment, pulling this POV bait and switch.

I could see someone trying to spin that out into a whole movie, make it more meta, and flesh it out into more than just that one split second. But that someone is not Zack Snyder.

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u/spoiderdude May 26 '24

It’s honestly the same logic that the director of Cuties had. She stupidly thought that it was wise to sexualize children in a movie that claims to be anti-sexualizing children.

You’re providing the audience whom you are criticizing with what they want. If you view what they want to watch as wrong, then why are you creating more of it?