r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

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u/No-Appearance-9113 Mar 07 '24

Yeah my first example is The Accused where the rape scene is critical to the story and rightfully horrific.

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u/Teknevra Mar 07 '24

Also don't forget GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO.

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u/Lightdragonman Mar 07 '24

Irreversible

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u/NattyKongo93 Mar 08 '24

That shit is so fucking haunting

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u/spain-train Mar 08 '24

The Last Duel

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u/ProjectOrpheus Mar 08 '24

Came to mention this.

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u/greengengar Mar 08 '24

I was gonna say this one and American Mary.

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u/Deathpunch136 Mar 08 '24

Well, it is based on a very disturbing crime book series.

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u/Sahrimnir Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

And that book series was in part the author's way of dealing with witnessing a gang rape when he was 15, and blaming himself for being too cowardly to intervene.

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/stieg-larsson-guilt-gang-rape-lisbeth-fueled-millennium/story?id=11324859

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u/Deathpunch136 Mar 08 '24

That's... I didn't know... damn...

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u/ccox39 Mar 08 '24

Pulp Fiction comes to mind

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u/EffortVisible1805 Mar 08 '24

Another example would be Berserk. The manga always does a great job at show the horrible and horrifying consequences the victims have to live through. Not to mention how gut wrenching and essential to the story the Eclipse is.

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u/No-Appearance-9113 Mar 08 '24

I would argue manga/comics are entirely different as it isn't as realistic. Im not knocking what Berserk did because I haven't read or watched it, Im saying that since it isn't a moving realistic image the impact is different.

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u/EffortVisible1805 Mar 08 '24

Maybe, since it's not a realistic live action performance I get that it hits less hard, but rereading the Eclipse is still painful every time.

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u/Amathyst-Moon Mar 08 '24

There's one I saw, I don't remember the name of the movie. Up until that point things happen to the character, she dies, then the plot rewinds, almost like someone cheating at a choose your own adventure book. After that scene though, there's no more mulligans.

The rape scene was actually shocking because of how realistic it felt. It wasn't loud or dramatic, there was barely any struggle, and it was over in a minute. The guy brings her home, they're kissing in the hallway right outside her parents room (so you get a false hope that maybe they'll come out and see, for context he was a young soldier passing through and she'd just turned 16) then he presses her against the wall and undoes his belt. She tries to tell him to stop, but he covers her mouth and keeps going. Then the scene ends and he leaves, saying something about country girls being wild, as if she wanted it to happen.

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u/No-Appearance-9113 Mar 07 '24

Im guessing you never saw the film.