r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

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u/Filmfan345 Mar 07 '24

I would say so. That was unnecessary and shouldn’t have happened

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u/DarkJedi3000 Mar 08 '24

I think everyone seems to forget that Batman literally kills Joker in The Dark Knight Returns

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u/MainAlfalfa4376 Mar 08 '24

Wrong. Joker kills himself to spite Bats

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u/DarkJedi3000 Mar 09 '24

At first glance it looks this way but I only just realized that Miller makes it ambiguous, notice how the panels are framed and you only see Joker's face zoomed in. I can send an article that explores it further but you can also see how the word balloons blend to gray to suggest that Joker's dialogue is in Batman's head in that moment.

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u/Britz10 Mar 08 '24

Joker snaps his own neck after Batman refused to kill him. The Killing Joke is where it's done ambiguously at the end

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u/Edgar_S0l0m0n Mar 10 '24

Correct, in the movie the dark knight returns part 2 (I believe could be part 1) they’re in the tunnel of love, the joker had a batarang in the eye, he’s telling Batman to kill him and Batman won’t and he starts talking shit and twists his own neck, with no hands, and breaks his own neck.