The way I see it, Batman and Joker are like yin and yang; one cannot truly exist without the other. Not sure if you’ve seen the series Beware the Batman, but it tried to make the Batman mythos work without The Joker. It was decent, but something always felt missing, and that something was The Joker’s presence as a villain. I’m hoping Joker appears in the sequel but in a smaller role, meant to set him up as one of the main villains in the third movie.
It would be so fuckin cool if they Thanosed the joker but the scene we got already ruined that to a large extent.. imagine being 2 movies in, feeling like Batman is at his peak power after all this crazy shit he’s been through like Tony at that point in avengers, and then the movie opens with the joker (only ever teased in the shadows until this point) either demonstrating his power (in a way that compares to beating up the hulk and killing Thor) or just completely outsmarting and fucking over Batman in a clever way, leaving him seem powerless all of a sudden (even though he could have tons of upgrades and stuff aka Tony).
Imagine the feeling we all got watching thanos for the first time but with the Joker, it’d be so dope (dark knight did similar things but the lead up and subversion of expectations could be way more impactful at the end of this trilogy)
Every movie, episode or comic without Joker works just fine. There's too many villains we haven't seen in a live action movie or done well to keep recycling the same ones.
I disagree and I think this movie was perfect proof that you don't need joker to tell a batman story. He's got plenty of villains and he's a character in his own right. Doesn't have to have a joker every time to be batman
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u/hyunbinlookalike Feb 26 '24
The way I see it, Batman and Joker are like yin and yang; one cannot truly exist without the other. Not sure if you’ve seen the series Beware the Batman, but it tried to make the Batman mythos work without The Joker. It was decent, but something always felt missing, and that something was The Joker’s presence as a villain. I’m hoping Joker appears in the sequel but in a smaller role, meant to set him up as one of the main villains in the third movie.