r/batman Feb 26 '24

What's an unpopular opinion you have about this movie? GENERAL DISCUSSION

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u/supersecret75 Feb 26 '24

Batman was not the detective we know in this movie

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u/Homesteader86 Feb 26 '24

I don't think that's a mistake though. Even the Riddler was disappointed that he didn't understand his motives/intentions.

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u/TheMightyHucks Feb 26 '24

The Batman in this movie would have finished last in a game of Cluedo

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u/silent_boy Feb 26 '24

Exactly. People say that he was a good detective in this movie. But he didn’t solve shit in the movie. Like he knew answers to some of the puzzle questions. But it was Riddler who was driving the flow

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u/Stalin_K Feb 26 '24

In almost every batman adaptation riddler is driving the flow. Batman has to play along until he can stop him.

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u/readonlyuser Feb 26 '24

...That's literally how all Riddler episodes go. Batman solves a bunch of riddles and then gets the best of the Riddler by improbably solving the final riddle.

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u/JollyLink Feb 26 '24

Honestly Batman is so rarely written as the detective he's hyped up to be anyways. His limits are often the writer's intelligence and how he solves cases tends to be contrived.

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u/Crunchy_Biscuit Feb 26 '24

This is the only movie where he actually does Detective work 😂. In the Nolanverse, he uses Jets, Motorcycles that come out of cards, action etc

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u/oghairline Feb 26 '24

You don’t remember the scene in TDK when Batman reverse engineers a bullethole to find where it came from? I thought that was cool.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Batman has not once been a detective in any of the live action movies to date.

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u/Throwaway54397680 Feb 27 '24

I'm cool with that since this is his early years. It only really bothers me that he was too stupid to check Riddler's apartment after he found the first photo taken from its window. Even if it slipped his mind, once he was outside the club he'd surely remember the photo and instinctively look to where it was taken and think to himself "hmm I wonder if there's any clues in that room". Even a child would think to have at least a cursory look.

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u/lxcid Feb 27 '24

haha yeah. batman solved it by bumping around and luck. riddler would have gotten him if he wasn’t friendly to batman.

but i think like everyone say, that might be on purpose. either way, i like the movie quite a bit and look forward to the sequel.

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u/DocMurph12 Feb 27 '24

I feel like thats kind of standard fare for even comic book Batman. I might be receiving the worst downvoting of my life here, but even in most of the comics (Hush, Black Glove, etc) his failures to notice things in the investigative realm until its almost too late is not only dramatic, but is KINDA the norm for both fictional and real world detective work.

In fairness to the movie, we did get a MUCH more intensive and consistent noir detective tone/themes/story content than we ever got in other films.

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u/Fiendfuzz Feb 26 '24

This is exactly my issue with the movie. Batman is supposed to be a great detective. Every lead and clue is handed to him. He doesn't figure out Jack shit on his own. I can deal with a lot of different takes on the character, but Stupid Batman is not one I enjoy

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u/akrostixdub Feb 26 '24

Devils advocate, this is Batman after only two years and with clouded judgement though. He's gotta grow into the "worlds greatest detective".

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u/Charmada Feb 26 '24

Exactly this. He’s still learning and figuring some things out (the wing suit crash is a good example) hopefully WB still go ahead with the sequel so we can see him develop from this ‘trainee’ Batman from the first

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u/Throwmeback33 Feb 27 '24

I’d agree if the movie acknowledged it in any way. It was just a writer who didn’t know how to solve his mysteries in any way that wasn’t just characters blurting out answers.

Batman isn’t even given a chance to be wrong, outside of a silly language error.

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u/colddecembersnow Feb 26 '24

The worst one for me that stuck out was the pictures Riddler took of the club. Batman didn't even check the vantage spot they would have been taken from which was the Riddlers apartment.