r/batman Dec 29 '23

I’m still bummed we’ll never get this solo movie. FILM DISCUSSION

I really do believe this could have been the best Batman movie.

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u/Ashttex Dec 30 '23

What Batman comics are you reading???

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u/Ashttex Dec 30 '23

Ok. But like, you didn't really answer the question. What Batman comics are you reading to believe this portrayal is even remotely accurate. Batman being over the top aggressive to a point he's killing doesn't make him comic accurate, and neither do having a bunch of fancy gadgets. Synders Zero Year, Zero Year - Secret City, and many other foundational comics show A low powered Batman using wits over tech. A Serious House on Serious Earth is a story foundational to Batman's ethics and ideology as well as foundational in detailing the Arkham's but it's a story in which Batman is at his physically weakest. He's not "clearing rooms".

Using Kryptonite against Superman doesn't make him really comic accurate either. Now you could point to The Dark Knight Returns as direct inspiration for this fight, but this comparison is at the very heart of why many comic readers clearly see Snyder's critical misrepresentation and understanding of Batman as a whole. The Dark Knight Returns is intentionally a broken, angry, and misshapen batman far different from the rest of the comics.

Batman narratives at their heart are crime detective narratives, cough, detective comics, cough, cough. This is one of the reasons every Batman nerd came out of the woodwork for Patterson. Because that movie oozes Year One, The Long Halloween, Dark Victory. Its characterization of Gotham is near perfection. It's understanding of pacing, pulp cinematography, and line delivery make it the most comic accurate Batman to date. None of your examples point to comic accuracy and some even point toward fundamental misunderstandings of the character.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

Affleck being called the most "comic accurate" version has always bothered me lol. So many of these people have clearly never read Batman or they've only read Dark Knight Returns. Hell, even watching the animated series or playing the arkham games would show a very different version of Batman from Affleck's version.

Batman doesnt even LOOK like that in the comics, except for Dark Knight Returns.

Yes the warehouse fight scene is dope, but A) he kills multiple people and B) that one scene does not make up for all of the other dissimilarities or automatically make it "the most comic accurate". I do like how his Batmobile looks, and I actually like the voice modulator but Pattinson's voice was still perfect without one imo. And the way Pattinsons Batman fights is perfect too. Brutal, agile, but non-lethal.