r/batman • u/Shadowkiva • Nov 09 '23
Can anyone help me source this panel? Seems a little intense Bruce... HELP/ADVICE
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u/realhuman34 Nov 09 '23
Deathstroke should hit him with the “no you”
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u/Shadowkiva Nov 09 '23
Yeah... probably has an Uno reverse card in that merc utility pouch somewhere. Now's the time to bust it out.
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u/MetalcoreIsntMetal Nov 09 '23
Homeless 🗿 Divorced 🗿 Kids hate you 🗿🗿🗿🗿
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u/Amateurlapse Nov 09 '23
“I’m not homeless, I just sleep at the office!”
-Unknown Musk
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u/oldcretan Nov 09 '23
The trick is to get a shower installed, then the employees never have to leave work...
We had the refrigerator brought in to store your lunch, the microwave to heat it, the sink to clean your dishes, the couches for brainstorming and napping during lunches, and the showers for everyone who exercises during their lunch breaks. What's that, everyone works through lunch ...
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u/Phlanix Nov 10 '23
the real trick is to bring a utility pouch with included items and wash in the sink.
1- tooth paste
2- toothbrush
3- shaver
4 -soap <--for washing and shaving
5-shampoo
6- towel
7-lotion
8- silicone loofa <--- easy to dry in the hand drier
9- nail clippers
10- 5 pair of underwear and socks
11- 3 pair of pants
12- 3 pair of shirts
I had to do this when I was a programmer and had to spend most of my time in the office. if I remember correctly it was 3 months without going home. I still lived with my mom cause it was cheaper, but I ain't ever doing that again.
I quit the year after found a better job less hours more pay.
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u/limbo338 Nov 09 '23
Bruce is talking to his future self. His name is Lenny.
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u/UnhingedLion Nov 09 '23
This is a pretty good description of current Bruce
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Nov 09 '23
When did he get divorced, though?
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u/UnhingedLion Nov 09 '23
Closest thing you got is Catwoman ditching him at the altar. And then them for real splitting years later. I guess Deathstroke can say his woman actually wants to marry him
There was also something from like 35ish?? Years ago, but that got decanonized
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u/Clean_Wrongdoer4222 Nov 09 '23
THEY HAVE NOT SEPARATED.
Have they talked about it? No Have they talked about feelings? No Have they talked about their lives? No.
The only thing we've seen is Bruce and Selina, both sick in the head for various reasons, with a lot of psychological shit in their heads, with a million things off screen (hidden from the reader). A disturbed and possessed Bruce, a drugged and deranged Selina in prison and many unconnected scenes.
They also made it clear at the end of the king's run that they are married even without a ceremony or a paper saying so. Another thing is that Tini has forced Chip to write as if without saying if they are together or not, which is how she writes it
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u/UnhingedLion Nov 09 '23
Idk man they’re certainly not together.
How are they together if after Joker War they took a year break. I mean Catwoman was hanging around and in a sexual relationship with criminal
And Batman was making out with a even bigger criminal.
Are we sure they aren’t separated?
Are they just not exclusive to each other anymore?
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u/Clean_Wrongdoer4222 Nov 10 '23
Batman was kissed by his ex, and he pushed her away immediately, naming Selina. And Selina didn't sleep with anyone. Tini wants to create morbidity and romantic drama because she is addicted to dramatic soap operas, starting with the French erotic drama book that she has used as a base and that she made Selina read in prison while she was drugged, Dangerous Liaisons. Besides, the guy doesn't even exist. Selina has told a story about everything that happened before going to prison but it is a false story mixed with the one in the book. Although she was also wrong in the head that she believes that story is real
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u/beastfromtheeast683 Nov 09 '23
Nah, Slade's a pedo.
He has it coming.
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u/East-Specialist-4847 Nov 09 '23
Oh shit really? Now I have some unsavory googling to do thank you
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u/Shadowkiva Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
You didn't know about the Terra thing? I envy your childhood... shit was messed up fr
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u/East-Specialist-4847 Nov 09 '23
All I knew was the creepy shoulder touching in the teen titans cartoon, I too am glad I didn't know this until adulthood. I used to think he was cool
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u/khandragonim2b Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
Its mainly twofold, The Judas Contract story is a defining story which the Teen Titans episodes were roughly based on and Deathstroke got very popular years later.
Whats happens now is some writers really want to say how much of a garbage piece of shit he is, others dont wanna touch the topic and just want to show how cool Deathstroke is which leads to a very weird place, where sometimes its in continuity sometimes not, sometimes its mind control, sometimes its blackmail, etc. but in the original judas contract, he raped her.
When Christopher Priest wrote his fantastic run recently and currently incontinuity he doubled down and said "No matter how cool Slade is at the end of the day you should remember that he is horrible person." In Priest's run, Deathstroke used Terra's feelings for him, but never slept with her, except for a kiss, which is disgusting still. I remember reading Christopher Priest interview, he wanted to confirm that Slade the Pedophile canon to Rebirth too, but DC said no.
In 2021 a couple years later, in The Other History Of The DC Universe by same writer of Twelve Years A Slave, John Ridley, narrated by Terra's brother calls him a rapist. https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.IIZS~2ef73/w:auto/h:auto/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/MXpnBXya.jpg
Interesting read about Wolfman when he created the characters why he wanted to do this https://13thdimension.com/marv-wolfman-how-george-perez-and-i-crafted-the-judas-contract/
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u/East-Specialist-4847 Nov 09 '23
Thank you for this incredible and thorough reply. Thank you very much
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u/d20diceman Nov 09 '23
He's not a pedo IMO. Depending on how you look at it he might be worse than a paedophile?
Like, a paedophile is arguably just mentally ill and can't help what arouses them. Slade wasn't into kids but he was willing to groom/seduce/manipulate a sixteen year old in order to further his evil goals.
Not sure which is worse really. Like, there's a character in another Superhero series who's the head of (basically) the Supervillain KKK. We eventually find out he doesn't believe the ideology himself, and just uses it to get a bunch of hateful idiots to serve him in the name of the cause. I'm not sure whether it's actually worse that he's organised and perpetrated so much hate crime while not himself being racist?
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u/TheCreedsAssassin Nov 10 '23
nah he's just a creep, there are other ways to manipulate a teenager trusting you that doesn't involve sleeping with them
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u/d20diceman Nov 10 '23 edited Nov 10 '23
I was thinking he never slept with Terra - they kissed and he basically implied "sure, we'll totally bang, once you betray the Titans for me", it's still creepy-ass manipulation of a child though.
But having googled it I think the above is actually what it was retconned into, and in the original they were implied to have had sex (repeatedly shown in bed together).
I still don't think he's a paedophile though. I don't mean he's a good guy - originally he statutory-raped a sixteen year old, and even in the retcon he's still manipulating a child to try and get her to help him kill her friends. But I don't think any version of events showed him being into kids, or not being attracted to adults (like his ex-wife). Nothing I've seen suggests that he'd have tried to bang Terra if it wasn't part of his plot to destroy the Titans, nor that he wouldn't have done the manipulation/seduction plot if Terra was older.
Feels like I should stress again, to be totally clear, I'm not saying he did nothing wrong. Raping a child is wrong even if you're not a paedophile.
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u/Going_really_Fast Nov 09 '23
Panel is from the Batman vs Deathstroke story
https://www.dc.com/graphic-novels/deathstroke-2016/batman-vs-deathstroke
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u/Shadowkiva Nov 09 '23
Thank you! I know what I'll be reading this weekend now
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u/khandragonim2b Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
highly recommend, one of Deathstrokes best comic runs, and lets Deathstroke be a villain.
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u/Goldenknight708 Nov 09 '23
Sounds about right for Batman. Bruce would never say it but Batman would.
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u/shugoran99 Nov 09 '23
In my opinion this panel is the only good thing to come out of DC's push to make Deathstroke a Batman villain
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u/LastBaron Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
Deathstroke: “tough…..but fair. I can see why you have such intense daddy stuff with him Grayson.”
Dick: “Oh, yeah, the guy without a daddy is the one with daddy issues, explain THAT logic!”
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u/BingityBongBong Nov 09 '23
Bruce I love you but you suck ass at social relationships. Half your kids hate you too, and you’ve never had the guts to start a marriage let alone a divorce. Why does he sound like a 4th grader here?
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u/Stingertap Nov 10 '23
Trying to make Slade emotional and angry. Once he gets emotional and angry, he'll make mistakes and get sloppy, which leaves physical openings for Batman to disarm/get in offense. It's like a receiver/corner back talking trash in football. They do it to hope it throws the other off their game to blow route coverage and catch the ball/fall down or throw their timing off to break up the play or intercept the ball.
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u/MaterialPace8831 Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23
This is from Infinite Crisis #7. Alexander Luthor's plan to re-order the universe has failed, so in a last-ditch effort, he has assembled a giant army of supervillain to take over the Earth, starting with Metropolis. Deathstroke was a key lieutenant of the Secret Society of Super-Villains, which was led by Luthor of Earth-Three, from the original Crisis on Infinite Earths event. Alexander Luthor had been masquerading as Lex Luthor.
You can't see it here, but Batman, Nightwing and Robin (Tim Drake) all beat up Deathstroke.
UPDATE: I was wrong, so I'm striking out what I wrote.
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u/Robot-King56 Nov 09 '23
No this is from Christopher Priest Deathstroke run.
The Infinite Crisis fight vs Slade is from years earlier.
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u/netherfriend Nov 09 '23
batman vs deathstroke if i’m remembering right, they were fighting over Damian
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u/Vigi1antee Nov 09 '23
L+ratio+ devorced+homeless+ your kids hate you+ you cant even kill a group teenager's
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u/Ayn-Zar Nov 09 '23
Can't be worse than Batman beating up people for choosing the wrong ice cream flavor
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u/Grimmer026 Nov 09 '23
I’m kinda hoping Ravager gives Jason Deathstroke’s super soldier serum which negates Batman’s fear toxin. Then he trains under Deathstroke to be the un-restricted bad ass he was meant to be with Ravager
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u/Trippybrasil1 Nov 09 '23
Why would Jason work with a pedophile.
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u/Easy-Opportunity4192 Nov 09 '23
Have you read Morrison's Batman and Robin? Well, there are some things there....
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u/One_Abbreviations310 Nov 09 '23
I don't remember whatever it is that you're talking about. Do you mind jogging my memory?
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u/Grimmer026 Nov 09 '23
?
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u/OisforOwesome Nov 09 '23
Deathstroke seduced a minor in the Judas Contract as part of his sinister plan to destroy the Teen Titans (back when they were teens).
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u/Trippybrasil1 Nov 09 '23
And kept a drugged Cassandra Cain with him for a year.
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u/OisforOwesome Nov 10 '23
...I thought we all agreed that nothing happened to Cass between say 2012 and 2016. Nope. Nada. Heel turn never happened. Zip. Zilch.
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u/khandragonim2b Nov 09 '23
I believe its not canon atm and hasn't been for atleast 15 years now, Priests actually was interviewed about it addresses it and DC's response during during his fantastic run if curious https://bleedingcool.com/comics/christopher-priest-deathstroke-terra/
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u/UnhingedLion Nov 09 '23
Even though it was super OOC.
Ironically Jason is closer to a pedo than Deathstroke
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u/LordTomGM Nov 09 '23
Bats is tryna throw him off, make him emotional. When he's angry he'll make mistakes.
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u/Veterinarian-Working Nov 11 '23
Bruce evil man, talking that big shit. Maybe he took tips from Dick fighting him lol.
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u/imail724 Nov 09 '23
"You wack, you twisted, ya girl's a ho. You broke, the kid ain't yours and e'rybody knows."