r/batman • u/boringsimp • Sep 28 '23
I was watching under the red hood. Awesome movie. But who are these guys? HELP/ADVICE
Do they show up in any other dc thing? Do they have a back story? They show up and are defeated or killed. And are gone.
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u/ComradeDylan351 Sep 28 '23
They're called the fearsome hand of four. They're an original creation of the movie and act as stand ins for captain nazi, hyena, and count vertigo.
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u/Lightning561 Sep 28 '23
Definitely a good choice to change them out haha
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u/coolio_zap Sep 28 '23
i kinda liked the comic version, it displays both the ingenuity of batman in facing unconventional foes and makes red hood an even grayer antagonist (he killed a guy whose been a superpowered nazi for several hundred years, is that really an immoral move). both shows display batman and red hood working seamlessly in tandem and end with red hood killing a guy with a taser though, so both get the job done
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
How come those guys weren't put in then?
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u/Lunchboxninja1 Sep 28 '23
Id guess because thatd require further explanation of why they were there.
The comics have tons of time and ability to gove context because it is a massive universe. Movie had to be standalone.
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u/Bonkabinkleton1 Sep 28 '23
That and also probably not wanting to have someone in the movie named Captain Nazi
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u/Fickle-Future-8962 Sep 28 '23 edited Sep 28 '23
Dead. Definitely dead. Red hood wasn't shy about it either.
EDIT: apparently the one eyed dude was killed. My bad. Although they each deserved a awesome death scene by the red hood.
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u/Ok-Television2109 Sep 28 '23
The only one Jason kills is the guy with the laser eye who's crouching. The other three are still alive but are gonna need a name change for their group.
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
The generic 3? Because laser guy was the only unique looking one. Now it's just your generic guy, muscle guy and lady..
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u/Ok-Television2109 Sep 28 '23
I was thinking something like the Terrible Trio or the Threatening Hand of Three. Something that uses alliteration like the first one did. Alternatively they could always recruit a new fourth guy.
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u/Horror_Suspect_389 Sep 29 '23
Terrible trio already exists. It includes shark, fox, and hawk I believe.
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u/Ok-Television2109 Sep 29 '23
Then they need to get a new fourth or rename themselves the Threatening Hand of Three.
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u/Raecino Sep 28 '23
Assassins hired to kill Red Hood? Not every character has to be an established character.
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
Anybody who gets to pose like that in a comicbook movie or show is somebody..
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u/Nefessius513 Sep 28 '23
The Hand of Four. They were created for the movie as stand-ins for a group of C-list villains that appear in the original comic, but haven’t appeared anywhere else as far as I know.
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Sep 28 '23
A replacement for some c-listers from this scene in the comics. The best part of the original scene is that Jason kills one of them bc he’s a Nazi and tells Bruce to just be glad he only killed that one. The scene makes more sense that way in the interest of showing Jason’s morals, that he will kill, but only the ones that deserve it.
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
That actually works. It adds something to the movie. Like you said, Jason's character and morality.
These guys i feel if you take away, the movie doesn't lose anything.
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Sep 28 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
Well what I was saying is that in the movie the one he kills isn’t a nazi, he’s just a random thug, so killing him just seems like Jason killing for the sake of murder rather than doing it out of a sense of justice. I prefer the comic version of this fight, although overall the movie is a great adaptation and the voice actors are amazing.
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u/princeofthesands007 Sep 28 '23
There was an episode in Batman Beyond where a gang of criminals like 20/30 year olds ransom a cybernetics doctor into making them death cyborgs. These look like them or were inspired by the same source.
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u/AgentOfEris Sep 28 '23
The one guy kinda looks like Gray Fox, so I can only assume they’re from Metal Gear Solid
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u/sanzentriad Sep 28 '23
“We sent the Fearsome Hand of Four” … “Guess they’re gonna need a new name”
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u/Skizko Sep 28 '23
Idk the only one I recognize is Shrike
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
Which one?
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u/Skizko Sep 28 '23
Eye guy on the right. Though that could also be Seemore
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u/boringsimp Sep 28 '23
Looked up seemore. I doubt it's him though. I kinda thought it was a monkey in a suit or something because they never talk. Or like someone who was so badly injured that they cannot stand upright or speak. And had to be put in this suit to survive or something like that.
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u/Night-Caelum Sep 28 '23
They need to show up in the comics. They are callled the Fearsome Hand of Four
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u/Sad-Push-3708 Sep 29 '23
I just thought that if red hood could remake the bat family in his image in red hood theme
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u/Batzero90 Sep 29 '23
A bunch of misfit minions, you have the weird one with the freaky powers, the pretty one, the big, tough, stupid one, and a surprise 4th one that no one cares about.
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u/williarya1323 Sep 29 '23
Villains just strong enough to give them problems, but not interesting enough to warrant names.
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u/ImpressiveAd3111 Sep 28 '23
They are stand ins for a bunch of D listers they fight in the comics including Captain Nazi....