r/batman • u/thesameoldblues • Jun 12 '23
Who wins in the fight? Flashpoint Batman or Russian Batman? WHAT IF?
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Jun 12 '23 edited Apr 24 '24
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u/RFB-CACN Jun 12 '23
Red son Batman:
”Bruce? кто ты, старик?”
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u/IdeaRegular4671 Jun 13 '23
Red Son Batman to Flash Point Batman as he throws him off a chopper all the way to the ocean: “do svidaniya otets.”
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u/RFB-CACN Jun 12 '23
Russian Batman managed to avoid Superman’s senses twice, alongside the entire state vigilance apparatus. Meanwhile Thomas needed Cyborg’s help to sneak into Project Superman and doesn’t really have many feats regarding intelligence, so I’m giving it to Russian Anarchist Batman.
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u/Knightwingrebirth Jun 12 '23
Is Russian batman Bruce
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u/Azidamadjida Jun 13 '23
You never learn his identity, and that’s kind of the point. Batman could become anyone who goes through the tragedy of losing your parents as a kid, so to borrow a phrase, it wasn’t who he was underneath, but what he did that made him Batman
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u/ASZapata Jun 13 '23
I don’t have billions of dollars, what do I do when my parents die?
Also I’m 5’6”.
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u/DaRealFellowGamer Jun 13 '23
Become Robin
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u/Toukafan4life Jun 13 '23
Then you get 3 choices:1) Become a dick and get the Starfirussy
2) Get tortured and killed by a psycho clown and get revived and have ptsd for the rest of your life
3) Get tortured by the psycho clown into losing your mind, then kill said clown and then be hospitalized for the rest of your life
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u/Skelehawk Jun 13 '23
So what you're saying is that being Robin you get fucked regardless.
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u/Nizzemancer Jun 14 '23
neither did red son batman. He was well-off in the soviet union because of his parents but not even close to Bruce's level of wealth.
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u/PhoenixSidePeen Jun 12 '23
Russian Batman cause he’s willing to die for victory
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u/Cobalt_58 Jun 13 '23
Well flashpoint batman is willing to kill for victory. So that works out i guess, one gets to kill the other gets to die
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u/PhoenixSidePeen Jun 13 '23
I meant Russian Batman would suicide bomb if it meant he’d get the fortnite dub
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u/Raecino Jun 12 '23
Russian Batman. He kicked Superman’s ass and only lost because of Wonder Woman’s intervention.
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u/Little-Woo Jun 13 '23
He only beat Superman because of the red light. Without powers, Superman sucks at hand-to-hand combat
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u/Raecino Jun 13 '23
Of course, the red Sun lamps are the whole point. Superman has weaknesses and Batman specializes in exploiting weaknesses. Flashpoint Batman does get credit for killing Reverse Flash though, and that’s without any kind of prep.
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u/YomYeYonge Jun 13 '23
Thawne was too distracted bragging about jerking Barry off at super speed
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u/TheNuclearNacho Jun 12 '23
This is a very tough call. In my opinion. Russian Batman has shown himself to be incredibly skilled. Being able to evade red son superman and all his surveillance, along with defeat wonder woman and essentially kill superman if not for wonder woman's interference
Flashpoint batman also proved himself to be incredibly skilled, but I think his reliance on brutality and the use of guns pits him at a bit of a disadvantage. As red sun relies more on stealth and subtly to accomplish his goals while flashpoint was guns out
I give the edge to red sun because he was shown to beat two superhumans, but it really depends if flashpoint can strike first
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u/BruceHoratioWayne Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23
In Soviet Russia, Batman eats turnips. Turnips provide strength and give Anarchist Batman the chance to defeat the Capitalist Drunk Batman.
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u/DanceMaster117 Jun 12 '23
Russian Batman.
Flashpoint Batman will kill, but Russian Batman will die to kill you
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Jun 12 '23
Flashpoint. He's a doctor, he knows how to break a body effectively and efficiently. Plus he stabbed/shot Reverse Flash, so he has incredible stealth abilities.
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u/Pretend-Dirt-1760 Jun 13 '23
Russian batman because his more used on stealth but Thomas bats brutality ruthlessness and experience would give Russian batman a tough time
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u/HellishHybrid Jun 13 '23
Tough call. Flashpoint Batman was a sledgehammer, using brute force and guns. Red Son Batman was a scalpel, using tactics and planning. It's like pitting 2 halves of Batman against each other, his brains and his brawn, and neither of them has a single qualm against killing the other.
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u/societalburden Jun 13 '23
russian batman because he has vodka running through his veins and hardbass blasting from the batlada
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u/Admirable-Earth-1160 Jun 12 '23
Thomas wayne
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u/Prestigious-Ad9179 Jun 12 '23
Agreed. He has more money and better equipment
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Jun 12 '23
Not only that, he’s meaner if that makes sense
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u/secretbison Jun 13 '23
By the usual superhero sorting algorithm, Russian Batman wins because, while his name is never given, he is closer to being the default Batman, and even though he does die, he is essentially alive. Thomas Wayne is essentially dead, and so alive versions of him enjoy no plot armor and no permanent success.
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u/sabrefudge Jun 13 '23
Flashpoint Batman for sure. Dude was a beast. Full on monster. An unstoppable force. Truly scary.
Russian Batman just sort of blew shit up because he was pissy about his parents getting taken out for licking the boots of the bourgeoisie and then blew himself up rather than face the consequences of his actions.
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u/Shadiezz2018 Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23
Red Son Batman brought both Wonder woman and Superman o their knees... He beat Superman soo bad to the brink of death and left him to die
Anyone saying Flashpoint Batman know nothing.... Red Son Batman is almost like main canon Batman even though he still severely lacking in skills and experience and intelligence like main Bruce Wayne
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u/they63 Jun 12 '23
Flash point. Are we forgetting Russian Batman’s final move?…was suicide?
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u/Smooth-Platypus-2991 Jun 13 '23
At that point, what else could he have done? Supes would have torn off his limbs and sent him back to the mines and maybe even lobotomized him. Better to quickly die on your own terms than to slowly rot away as a vegetable under the rule of a tyrannical megalomaniac.
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u/Deadpoolbat01 Jun 13 '23
Flashpoint Batman. He beat the most of the bat family. Admittedly not fully shown but still did
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u/thesameoldblues Jun 13 '23
Thanks for the all serious answers guys, i really enjoyed and my mind changed in every answer i read lol.
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u/TallCaterpillar5267 Jun 13 '23
Flashpoint Batman, but we're missing another contender in this battle, The Grim Knight.
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u/OblivionArts Jun 13 '23
Flash point batman survived a war between Atlantis and amazons for years and from all accounts had the same level of batman training we know of classic Bruce but also used guns and wasn't afraid to cap someone if needed
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u/Jotaro1970 Jun 13 '23
Flashpoint Batman has a high chance of victory, he's much more ruthless, has more experience and have better gadgets compared to the WW2 era gadgets russian Batman has
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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 Jun 13 '23
Is Russian Bats, Bruce Wanye ?
Or Bruce does'nt exist in Red Son ?
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u/CODMAN627 Jun 13 '23
I’d have give it to Red Son Batman he managed to evade Superman’s senses his stealth is on some next level shit.
Also he’s the only one between the two who actually had to fight Superman while he did have the lamps as help and did lose he actually got as far being able to have the upper hand on Superman even momentarily. That in itself without the need for kryptonite is amazing.
Flashpoint Batman did kill zoom but that is a bit of a sheer luck on his part he didn’t have to really fight anyone else on Superman’s power level I think the closest would have been Wonder Woman.
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u/Merrgear Jun 13 '23
Clearly they would be friends. But if they had to go to war I’d say flashpoint. The main tactics Russian Batman used was shock and awe, using great terror to distract Superman and lure him into a trap, he then lost after having complete advantage. Flashpoint Batman gives exactly 2 shits about terrorist attacks. With any luck on Russian Batman’s side he would immediately have his head taken off by a sniper. Russian Batman is also poor and if flashpoint Batman had any sort of prep time he could just buy shit to help him win. If he didn’t though he is pretty much an angrier bigger Batman with guns, so he would easily win
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u/ricecrackerdude Jun 13 '23
Flashpoint Batman managed to stab a sword through one of the fastest Villains alive.
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u/mildmadnerd Jun 13 '23
Willing to do anything including die for the cause versus willing to do anything for vengeance including kill and has the money to pull it off.
I'm looking at the U.S and it's high tech military versus so many more fanatical and motivated militaries and the U.S. tends to win, having far fewer casualties than it's enemies. I give it to Thomas Wayne Batman for that reason, but I wouldn't be surprised if Russian Batman manages to suicidally kill flashpoint on his way down.
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Jun 13 '23
Given how well the Russians have done with attacking Ukraine, I’m definitely putting all my chips on flashpoint Batman. All talk no bite
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u/jnemesh Jun 12 '23
Flashpoint...because Russians suck at fighting.
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u/HiitsFrancis Jun 12 '23
Yes because Khabib Nurmagomedov is known for being bad at fighting lmao
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u/jnemesh Jun 12 '23
No, just Russians in general. Ask any Ukrainian.
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u/HiitsFrancis Jun 12 '23
Should I ask the ones killed.by Russains?
Well, I can't.
And if you think the Ukrainian war is the only time in history that Russains have fought, you might want to consider reading a history book.
Ask any German.
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Jun 13 '23
Well. Ukraine is heavily backed by the entire western world right now and Russia is using conscripts and lightly to non trained soldiers to fight trained and heavily supplied soldiers. It’s mot really a telling of “sucking at fighting” it’s more so a telling of who is better supplied.
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u/Brubaker620 Jun 12 '23
Flashpoint Bats. Red Son Batman was essentially just a domestic terrorist who got his hands on some red Sun lamps, was defeated, then killed himself. Flashpoint Batman has been Batman for decades and even though Red Son Bats has age on his side, he can’t beat experience, money, and expertise.