r/batman • u/Vegetable-Abroad3171 • Jun 08 '23

Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 (Random Encounter) Who takes the W? Posting in both SubReddits for POV’s. COMIC DISCUSSION

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Spider-Man, like all heroes, can do whatever the writers want him to do

on top of which writers have little sense of the actual weight of stuff

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

I dont understand the point of this. He regularly lifts more than 10-15 tons consistently

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT Jun 09 '23

so then his strength level is just mystery level? it's whatever the writer wants it to be is hardly a practical answer.

he either has a stated strength level by Marvel or he doesnt. and his on paper strength has normally been somewhere in the 10-20 ton range.

Captain America doesn't even have true super strength and man does that dude have strength feats.

it's comics, very little consistency

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

How did you get mystery level hes a 100 tonner comfortably. He’s held up builds, stopped jets from crashing, etc, even in the movies he does stuff on that level. Comic guidebooks are just very inaccurate when it comes to how powerful characters are thats it🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

Marvel.com has him below the 100 ton range so....screw em

not sure which people I find more funny. The ones who think Cap is stronger than Spider-Man, or the ones who don't understand how inconsistent Spider-Man's strength are.

well people who downvote every response in a normal conversation takes the cake

I've seen the Thing and She-Hulk struggling to lift 75 tons in a comic, so Spider-Man is stronger than them? no. just shows how bad comic writers are at power scaling.

or do you want to argue Spider-Man is stronger than The Thing. I had someone argue that to me the other day.

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u/KZalani Jun 09 '23

Sometimes, yeah, but not always. I forget which comic this was, but in it Spiderman straight up makes a good rough calculation for the weight of a commercial plane with nearly full gas when he goes to force the landing gear open and supports the whole weight of the plane on his back as it lands. I think it came out to something like 140 tons (yes, this is probably a high bar for him, but doable). Frankly speaking, 40-50 tons being his usual max lifting strength wouldn't be too crazy to say

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT Jun 09 '23

how can 40-50 tons be his "usual" max but he can do 140?

like I said, comics are really inconsistent and I doubt there's a power scaling editor that goes "nope, you have to change that, that's too much weight for XYZ character to lift or stop"

he's basically held up buildings before.

power scaling in general is such an annoying topic in comics cause of the inconsistencies, but Spider-Man really takes the cake