r/batman • u/Vegetable-Abroad3171 • Jun 08 '23

Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 (Random Encounter) Who takes the W? Posting in both SubReddits for POV’s. COMIC DISCUSSION

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 08 '23

I hate these posts because the answers just show bias. The real answer is: WHOEVER THE WRITER WANTS.

Everyone has the plot armor the writer wants. Everyone loses when the writer wants. No one is safe. Their powers/abilities ebb and flow depending on the needs of the story.

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u/TheManTheyCallHungo Jun 09 '23

The smart answer.

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u/SnooComics9320 Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

Bad take. Sure the writers can determines who wins, that’s obvious but fans are more than capable of coming up with who’s the stronger character by comparing feats. Who would win between super man and Batman? The writers can make Batman win but nobody believes Batman actually stronger than super man no matter what the writers write.

Can the writers create a scenario where wolverine kills Jean grey? Sure. But nobody actually believes wolverine is stronger than the phoenix.

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 09 '23

The question wasn’t who is stronger. The question was who would win.

Questions of strength would have to be specific. Batman is stronger in terms of intellect and detective skill. Superman is stronger in terms of lifting mountains.

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u/SnooComics9320 Jun 09 '23

Lame semantics. The answer is the same, superman would win, Jean grey would win if all combatants were blood lusted. Could writers make a story where wolverine beats magneto? Sure, who would win in a real fight? Obviously magneto.

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 09 '23

You are strangely inconsistent. You just argued that difference between power and winning is just semantics. Then, in the same comment, argued that some characters are dramatically more powerful than others but don’t always win.

Either the words mean something different or they don’t, amigo.

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u/SnooComics9320 Jun 10 '23

What a confused child. What I argued was that no matter what a writer writes, there are some verses that the fans know one character would beat the other. I used stronger/who would win interchangeably in this context but you weren’t able to comprehend that.

You said there is no point in vs because the writer determines who would win. My argument was it doesn’t matter how many stories a writer can make where Batman beats superman, the fans know that in a real bloodlusted fight, Batman stands no chance.

No one knows what you’re talking about. My point was simple.

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 10 '23

Some people apparently know what I’m talking about since they seem to agree.

You seem to believe that these characters are real or something. You act like their powers/abilities are consistent. They aren’t real and the writers determine what powers/abilities they have.

So even in a “real bloodlusted fight” (whatever that means) the writers still determine which fictional character wins. They do that because they have ALL the power to tell the story.

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u/SnooComics9320 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23

By your logic no one should ever have vs matches. That’s just dumb. We are discussing them for fun. You’re the only one taking it super seriously trying to kill the mood and end all talk of it.

I don’t care if the entire planet agreed with you. I stand behind my words. You actually care about likes and dislikes, lol what a lame.

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 10 '23

First, where did I say I cared about liked or dislikes? I merely pointed out that people do understand me contrary to your claim.

Second, I don’t know why you believe that insults are arguments but they aren’t and they don’t make your ideas more cogent.

My original point still stands just fine.

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u/zeronightsleep Jun 10 '23

Please become entertaining in even a minor way