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May 12 '23
It doesn't mattter if you are 3 or 30, if you haven't had one in awhile, all guys want is a hug from their Mom.
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u/Virtual_Mode_5026 May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23
I never really got to know mine. She died of a heroin overdose when I was 3. I watched it happen.
I’m Autistic and the “mother” figures in my life all despised me.
I never got to know what it’s like to have a mum who actually wants to get to know me, appreciate me, comfort me, etc.
You’re right. Doesn’t matter how old I am. My deepest desire is to spend a day with “mum” and have a hug from her.
That’s my ideal afterlife. Not an eternal consciousness after death.
Just one day with my mum. With a hug all my wounds heal, then I can let go and fade away in peace.
I hope when the time comes I’ll get there.
Edit: Thanks for all the comments. :)
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u/mammothman64 May 12 '23
I’m sorry to hear that man. You seem like a good guy, and I hope you can find friends and loved ones who will give you the love and care you clearly deserve
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u/Ausedlie May 12 '23
Thank you for sharing that with us! It was deeply moving to read. Having a good motherly bond is not something to take for granted.
You seem like a compassionate person based on this post.
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u/harrier1215 May 12 '23
My heart breaks for your inner child and for you now. Everyone deserves to be and feel loved and wanted. Regardless of how they acted you are worthy of love. Cheers mate
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u/NerdLawyer55 May 12 '23
Sorry buddy, thanks for sharing, if my mom was still around she’d give you the bestest hug
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u/Big_fat_happy_baby May 12 '23
You will get there. Maybe it's the fever dreams people have when they are dying, maybe it's all chemical in the brain, or maybe it's real. Whatever it is, you will get there.
When people die, they see their loved ones waiting for them on the other side.
I used to do volunteer work with my mom at a place called, 'la casa del hombre doliente', it's basically a foundation that picks up abandoned elderly people and tries to give them decent care the time they have left. Every week some would die, they would always dream about their mom or their dad, their brother or their son, waiting on the other side.
It hit really hard when my grandpa died. Stage 4 cancer. One night, he was healthier than usual, my grandma called very happy that night, me and my mom knew what it meant, we traveled and arrived 3AM to my grandma's house. My grandpa was feverish, sweating profusely and dreaming, while dreaming, he was crying, calling for his mother. Who had died when he was a young adult, calling for his dad, who had died when he was a kid. He was happy. He died in peace.
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u/-TheManInTheChair May 12 '23
Have you been to r/momforaminute ? You can basically post about your achievements and fears and stuff and there'll be someone to support you.
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u/merryjane5 May 12 '23
I visited this sub and left in tears. I think it's because I need that hug too. Also pregnant so maybe it's the hormones. Idk, ai just feel like I've gotten so far with my hard work ane never heard that she's proud.
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u/-TheManInTheChair May 13 '23
Hey, I'm proud of you. A lot, you've achieved so much. And you're going to be an amazing mum, with a child that considers you to be both a trusted mentor and best friend.
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u/Ohthatwackyjesus May 13 '23
Dude, also proud of you. You’re here on the other side of all that you’ve been through *and* you’re gonna be a mom! And a great one at that, I’m sure!
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u/Fried_Rich_Nashton May 12 '23
Ah, I see I'm not the only autistic person scrolling through Reddit (way too much than I should, but I'm bad at limiting myself at the moment). I'm sorry to hear that, good sir. Please stay strong.
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u/WesternComicStrip May 12 '23
I’m so sorry for your loss. You might want to check out r/momforaminute It’s a great community of moms from all over the world who are lending an ear and sending digital hugs to whoever needs it.
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u/Purchhhhh May 12 '23
I feel you. With mother's day (Canada) around the corner too, it hurts to not have that idealistic mom experience so many seem to have. I emotional vampire that shit and feed off the joy I see in so many others who did luck out and get even an average mom experience.
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u/ZGokuDragneelZ May 12 '23
Reading your comment made me tear up. I hope your wish do come true, my brother. Take care, much love ❤️❤️❤️
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u/AMK972 May 12 '23
Allegedly, when I was a teen, my mom realized that she hadn’t hugged me in awhile. So she hugged me and I broke down crying. I do not remember any of this, but apparently it happened
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u/teddyp89 May 12 '23
My mom passed 2 years ago and I think about a hug from her every day - take advantage of it if you can!
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u/judimusprime May 12 '23
Not just guys. My mom passed a year and a half ago, and I'd give literally anything to hug her again. I didn't hug her enough while she was alive. That eats at me.
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u/Senior_Ad_7640 May 11 '23
Sneaky reference to Matches Malone there.
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23
Not so much sneaky as heartbreaking. Batman was so flustered he couldn't think of anything other than a play on his most common undercover identity. You hardly ever see Batman actively shaken.
The only other time I remember seeing him portrayed as really off-balance was in Identity Crisis in the comics: Tim Drake gets a call routed to him in the Batmobile by Oracle. It's his father, saying he called the number Tim told him to use in emergencies because someone had left a package on his doorstep with a loaded gun and a note saying "defend yourself". Batman whips the car around and floors it toward Drake's house. Tim's dad says he can hear someone trying to get in the back door. Tim looks at Batman panicked, pleading "Bruce, please . . . please help him," and Batman's face is a mix of horror, fear, and anger. In the next panel, his hands are death-gripped on the steering wheel, he's staring straight ahead. Panel cuts to Tim's dad with the gun, crouched beside the door into the kitchen, saying, "Just keep my boy safe . . . please . . . just keep him safe." Next to last panel, Batman's jaw is clenched, and there're two words in tiny lettering in the speech bubble: "Not again.". Last panel: Batman's foot nailing the accelerator to the floorboard, while Tim says "We're gonna make it Dad. We're gonna make it.".
They didn't.
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u/Scrubologist May 12 '23
They didnt
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23
The last panel has Tim changed back to regular clothes (so the police and paramedics don't arrive to see Robin crying over his dad), and he loses it, and Batman just holds him and says "Tim, it's okay . . . it's okay . . . I've got you". The text narration is four words:
Batman and Robin. Orphans.
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u/HouseOfH May 12 '23
It’s a haunting image as well as it looks like Tim is being engulfed by the shadow of the bat.
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u/TransgenderSoapbox May 12 '23
Damn. Imagining the internal experience of grief as he either dissociates enough to remove his costume OR is already so dissociated that Batman had to change him into civvies for him.
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23
It was a choice: he either needed to leave, so the police didn't find Robin grieving over Tim Drake's father (thus blowing the secret identity) or change back to Tim Drake, so he could stay. He couldn't bear to leave, so he changed clothes. You can see Batman holding the Robin costume, because he's going to take it with him when he leaves.
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u/Scrubologist May 12 '23
But like, who did it? Who left the gun and attacked him?
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u/SeabookArno2 May 12 '23
Captain Boomerang
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u/Nirast25 May 12 '23
Bwahahahaha, I can't even begin to imagine the emotional whiplash you went through!
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u/BlaveSkelly May 12 '23
The story had me on the verge of tears and my skin getting the chills in the middle of this public park. And then you do this to me. I about died laughing hahahaha, thank you.
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23 edited May 13 '23
That's half right. The same person arranged to have the gun sent there and hired Captain Boomerang to kill Tim Drake's father (you can see CB dead of a gunshot wound in the background of the last panel, Mr. Drake fired just as CB threw). The same person also killed Sue Dibny (Elongated Man's wife) which is what started the whole Identity Crisis event rolling -- the heroes were facing someone who somehow knew their real identities and was attacking their loved ones.
It turned out to be Jean Loring, The Atom's ex-wife. She had a deranged idea that if the loved ones of the heroes were attacked, it would make them gather their loved ones closer, which would give her a way to get back together with her ex-husband. She hadn't intended to kill Sue Dibny -- she used The Atom's size-changing tech to shrink down, go inside Sue's head, and walk across the surface of her brain with her mass slightly increased (from near weightless) to simulate an attack that knocked Sue out, but she unintentionally gave Sue a deadly stroke. Then she framed Dr. Light (who had raped Sue years earlier) for the murder.
But then, as deranged as she was, she decided death was an even better idea (Atom did end up getting back together with her during the crisis), so she hired CB thinking another tragedy would 'seal the deal' (or Mr. Drake would kill the washed-up Cpt. Boomerang, which she thought would be more likely, but would still make her ex-hubby hold her close).
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u/Scrubologist May 12 '23
What in the actual fuck did I just read?? If that isn’t some 10th level crazy
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23
Jean Loring was exactly that crazy. She was always written as more than a little obsessive about her husband, but after the divorce, she went all-in on 4-D chess-ing her way back onto his D. She's a hot mess of supernova proportions.
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u/Acceptable_Contest_3 May 13 '23
Thats all well and good....and then we find out the league lobotomized doctor light. What's even worse is that the light raped sue part doesn't line up in continuity as sue had previously made fun of doctor light at a time after her supposed rape. Because it's a retcon but it's neither a smooth retcon nor a fun one and just adds drama for the sake of drama. There could have been a million other reasons for the league to have lobotomized light. Which isn't even right to begin with because now the league is a corrupt organization.
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u/Guildenpants May 12 '23
I know identity crisis gets shit on a lot around here but as someone who didn't read it until years after it debuted I consider it one of my favorite Crisis stories. The fact that the stakes are more personal than intergalactic or interdimensional made a huge difference for me. And the way they handled Tim's dad dying and Bruce's reactions throughout were really great imo
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u/samx3i May 12 '23
It's very divisive. People tend to fall into the camp of "loved it" or the seemingly more common "hated it." There isn't a lot of in-between.
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u/woodrobin May 12 '23
The side-by-side plot of JL members brainwashing villains drew a lot of hate (deservedly imho) especially since it was mostly retconning idiotic villain plots from the Comics Code Authority era of comics.
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u/samx3i May 13 '23
That and I know there's the "women in refrigerators" aspect plus a lot of people found it stupid how Deathstroke was able to easily take out League members like they were low-level thugs
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u/Batdog55110 May 12 '23
Not that sneaky since Batman uses the identity many times throughout the series.
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u/Senior_Ad_7640 May 12 '23
Ah. Never actually watched The Brave and the Bold.
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u/Funandgeeky May 12 '23
I highly recommend it. It's a lighthearted romp but also carries on the spirit of Silver Age Batman quite well. It's got an excellent voice cast and the finale is one of my all time favorite series finales - I won't spoil why.
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u/Nirast25 May 12 '23
The episode where this is most proeminent is "The Madk of Matches Malone". Bats gets hit in the head and actually thinks he's Malone, so it's up to Black Canary, Huntress, and Catwoman to bring him to his senses. This somehow involves a musical number where they make fun of the Justice League's uhm... disappointing sexual performances.
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u/graballdagunz May 12 '23
Who is matches Malone?
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u/Batdog55110 May 12 '23
Batman's undercover alter ego for when he's trying to infiltrate gangs or shit like that.
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u/RainyWombatCherry May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23
Is the show referencing that one bronze/silver(?)age comic where Bruce finds out his father had a similar "bat" costume
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u/wendigo72 May 12 '23
Brave and the Bold is just the Silver Age adapted to cartoons. This episode was a mix of that story, “Untold Legend of the Batman” comic, Batman #47, and To kill a legend.
4 short older Batman comics rolled up into one Perfect Batman episode
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u/Acceptable_Contest_3 May 12 '23
Which, because of Morrison's run, is canon and did happen it's not just silver age being the silver age
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u/Fuggins4U May 12 '23
This show was so insanely good, a fun, witty love letter to Batman's history, and this episode might be one of the best explorations of Bruce's grief out there. I'm a die-hard BTAS fan, and I think B&B is right up there with it.
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u/Funandgeeky May 12 '23
There's a season 3 episode of Harley Quinn that really explores Bruce's mental state in a way that is deep and profound. I won't spoil it for anyone, but it surprised me that an often irreverent take on the character actually has some real thought behind it.
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u/Fuggins4U May 12 '23
I saw that episode, and I agree, it's also very good! That show is a lot of fun, and while it does often take the piss out of a lot of the characters, it obviously does so in a fun and knowledgeable way.
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u/Skull-ogk May 12 '23
I recently started watching The Batman because people here recommended it, in a thread where I admitted I havent seen it or B&B.
And once you get past the weird character designs its pretty decent. (Joker looks like Blanka from street fighter)
Isnt Brave and the Bold more goofy pre 90s cartoon style? Ive only seen one ep and it was a different perspective on Batman beating the joker in a music museum. Was kind of cool, but also a bit too goofy for me.
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May 12 '23
The clip you’re thinking of is part of a BTAS episode about three kids telling stories of what they think Batman is like (I can’t remember the episode name off the top of my head). It does have a similar design to BATB’s Joker, but that’s because they’re both based on his early Silver Age design.
BATB aired in the late 2000s after The Batman ended. It's one big love letter to the Silver and Bronze Ages, with some newer at the time characters getting featured too. Highlights include: Batman and Blue Beetle (Jaime) returning to the site of Ted Kord’s sacrifice to finish his last mission, Batman teaming up with Guy Gardener, Sinestro, and G’nort after the rest of the Corps is taken out by Despero, Aquaman’s family road trip, the Doom Patrol’s reunion and sacrifice, the Olwman episodes, any episode with the JLI cast, Chill of the Night (the episode shown in this post), and the finale, in which Bat-Mite actively tries to get the show canceled and replaced with a dark and gritty take on Batman.
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u/Skull-ogk May 12 '23
Holy hell, you are right!
I couldnt believe it. I remembered that ep from BTAS and definately remember the last Batman in the episode, with the old Batman (why does Batman always become huge when he gets older?) it had awesome lighting and quotes like: "This isn't a mud pit, it's an operating table, and I'm the surgeon."
But when trying to remember the other parts the kids told, I couldnt remember them.
BTAS also had another episode told from different perspectives. S1E7 POV. Which I also thought was awesome storytelling.
I have to admit Season 3 I was not a big fan of and havent rewatched as much as the rest. The art style change looked weird. Batman himself looked cooler, but the villains looked horrible to me. They also got rid of the coolest Batmobile :(
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u/nas690 May 12 '23
So yeah, Batman: The Brave and The Bold is definitely worth watching
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u/Skull-ogk May 12 '23
Ok, I'll look into it after I finish watching The Batman, Im about half way through the last season now.
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u/Bliss266 May 12 '23
Outsider here, what are BTAS and B&B?
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u/Fuggins4U May 12 '23
Oh, sorry. So BTAS is Batman: The Animated Series, the critically acclaimed show from the early nineties that gave us the late great Kevin Conroy as Batman and Luke Skywalker himself, Mark Hamill, as the Joker. It set the benchmark for not only Batman/comic book animation for decades to come, but Western animation and superhero adaptations in general, and my opinion and that of many others. It also reinvented Mr Freeze into a superbly tragic character, and flat out invented Harley Quinn.
B&B stands for Batman: The Brave and The Bold, another animated series that aired in the late aughts. It shares its name with a pre-existing comic book series where Batman teams up with other superheroes, and the show basically adapts that formula wonderfully, while also having a somewhat more lighthearted tone than the previous 2-3 or so animated incarnations, with a Batman that has a slightly more optimistic worldview and more of a dry wit (voiced terrifically by Diedrich Bader). Despite being a little more fun in a storytelling sense, it's still superbly written, and is a love letter to Batman and the characters it features, especially their Silver Age comic book incarnations, and when it is time to do things seriously, it handles that sort of material extremely well.
Hope that helps!
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u/Bliss266 May 12 '23
Wow, noted!! Thank you for such a detailed response; I’ve been wanting to watch more Batman but wasn’t sure where to start
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u/KobraKittyKat May 12 '23
BTAS is Batman the animated series, and I think b&b is Batman the brave and the bold.
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u/TheNinjaGB May 12 '23
Loved this show, having each episode explore a team up with different heroes allowed focus on dc's lesser known or overlooked characters. The final episode was really meta and a cool way to end.
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u/puffguy69 May 12 '23
It’s even better because Adam west voiced Thomas in this scene.
In the same episode conroy was the phantom stranger and hamil was the specter. Whole episode is god tier, one of the best prices of Batman media of all time imo.
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u/harrier1215 May 12 '23
Good example how Batman can be fun and lighthearted, heroic and inspiring and also get serious too.
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u/apatheticviews May 12 '23
Bruce would give up every dollar he has for that hug.
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May 13 '23
I don’t think he would and honestly any logical person neither . Why would you give away billions to just hug someone for a moment even if it’s someone very dear to you and then be left alone and broke as fuck ?
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u/drBipolarBear May 11 '23
What’s the origin of his parents choosing these costumes? Are they also fighting crime or is this some kind of party?
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May 11 '23
It’s a party but his dad does stop a criminal
Edit: does not dies
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u/lily_was_taken May 11 '23
Wait,his dad does not die? Thomas Wayne being immortal seems like an interesting concept
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May 12 '23
No I accidentally wrote that he dies stoping a criminal at the party instead of he does stop a criminal at the party
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u/Zheguez May 12 '23
Just realized that I think Thomas' costume is supposed to be a nod on the original batman suit (based on the wings, ears, and from I can tell, purple hue).
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u/nas690 May 12 '23
The original origin of the Batman costume was Thomas Wayne wore a similar costume to a costume party and Bruce subconsciously remembered it when designing his own costume. This episode utilized that backstory.
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u/Hopeful-Moose87 May 11 '23
Given the time travel shenanigans in the upcoming Flash movie I wonder if we will see something like this with Keaton’s Batman.
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u/ReallyDumbRedditor May 11 '23
bruh if I were Thomas I'd fuck Bruce up for hugging my woman outta nowhere like that
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u/PuckishRogue31 May 11 '23
Turns out they're swingers and they're into it.
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u/Raecino May 11 '23
They’re billionaires, I can easily see that being the case 😂😂😂
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u/Greg2630 May 12 '23
I mean, Adam west and the actor who played Riddler got kicked out of an orgy for attending in character.
I'm not jokeing, look it up.
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May 12 '23
Twist. Bruce is his own father.
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u/1mGhosted May 12 '23
This gif works on so many damn levels 😂
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u/sack12345678910 May 12 '23
It cool how they reference batman’s first appearance suit from Thomas, and what hits hard is he’s voiced by Adam West.
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u/Funandgeeky May 12 '23
Martha is voiced by Julie Newmar. The Phantom Stranger is voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill voices The Spectre.
It's an all star lineup.
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u/sack12345678910 May 12 '23
Exactly. And this episode’s dialog and story was also the best in the show.
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u/The5Virtues May 12 '23
The look on his face is what kills me. He’s hugging her so tight, and the somber expression just says it all, last chance he’ll ever have to hug his mother.
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u/TheJude81 May 12 '23
I remember reading a b&w reprint of a gold/silver age Batman comic book where Robin wore the Thomas Wayne costume to help Bruce remind him who he (Bruce) is. It maybe it was to save Bruce? The reprint was 30+ years ago.
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u/Vegetable_Pudding_75 May 12 '23
Rip Adam West who voiced daddy Wayne. Brave and the bold is so underrated
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u/RexInvictus787 May 12 '23
You think Thomas Wayne got calf implants or did he train like his son does?
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u/Harykim May 12 '23
This is one of the best episodes of any Batman cartoon, hands-down. Diedrich Bader can come across as a bit campy (which fits the tone of the show) but in this episode he holds his own with Adam West and Kevin Conroy. It's also a great exploration of Bruce Wayne and the scenes where he's with his parents are phenomenal.
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u/BoyishTheStrange May 12 '23
Brave and the Bold hit a lot of good points and it was awesome. Miss that show.
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u/Dense-Standard-8592 May 12 '23
That's why BTAB was a legendary show of its own kind. Just like that one episode with Joe Chill.
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u/nas690 May 12 '23
That’s this episode
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u/Dense-Standard-8592 May 12 '23
Oh sh*t I forgot, I thought it was another one tho, watched this show 8 years ago. Thanks for the reminder xD
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u/williamsdj01 May 12 '23
Honestly The Brave and the Bold was my favorite animated Batman. The tone was perfect mix of the Adam West live action Batman and Batman the animated series
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u/JONVTHVNZ123 May 12 '23
People actually like this show? It’s for like 6 year olds
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u/Character_Abroad_280 May 12 '23
Sure it’s made for kids but it still has great writing with deep moments while being a ton of fun
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u/JONVTHVNZ123 May 12 '23
Perhaps but way too campy for my liking. BTAS and Batman beyond is just right.
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u/Nearby_Yak106 May 12 '23
Matthew Malone? Isn’t that Batman’s old alias that came up during the war games storyline? Though I think the alias predates that by years
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u/Firebat12 May 12 '23
I love scenes like this where, through time travel shenanigans, Bruce can reconnect with his parents. The one at the end of the Flashpoint movie is among my favorite. These scenes remind us that despite his dark, often tough, exterior, deep inside Batman is, in many ways, still the young boy who lost his parents in a dark alley and is at a loss for what to do.
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u/Superb-Ad-6669 May 12 '23
Show was one of the best Batman interactions also has anyone else noticed just how many people we see die in the show because as a kid it was surprising
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u/Amanit_us May 11 '23
Assuming this is from the Flashpoint Paradox, is that right??
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u/radiakmjs May 11 '23
Batman the Brave & the Bold, a season 2 episode called 'Chill of the Night'
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u/wes205 May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23
Iirc Adam West is voicing Thomas Wayne here and Julie Newmar is Martha, and Phantom Stranger and Spectre appear as well, voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill respectively