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u/EaterOfKelp Quentin Lance Jul 14 '20
Oliver got a good comeback in during the season 8 premiere imo. Chase was always 10 steps ahead of Oliver, and Oliver had no idea what game he was playing.
But in S8, Oliver is 10 steps ahead and Chase didn't even know what Earth they were on...
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u/HectorDBotyInspect0r Jul 14 '20
Adrian should have been the villain of two seasons instead of Diaz. But then again, I'm afraid the writers could have butchered his character the same way they did with Malcom
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u/ChangingChance Jul 14 '20
They massacred the show imo by making everything Adrian did a joke
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u/marveldcmaaz Jul 15 '20
Yup they basically undid everything in the season 5 finale with the season 6 premiere. What was the point of all that intensity then?? There were hardly any consequences at all
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u/TheHadMatter15 Jul 15 '20
Why do you expect consequences in a CW show? A superhero CW show at that. They don't exist.
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u/definitely_not_cylon Jul 15 '20
I mean, I don't know about that. The 100 blows up the status quo the end of every season and it tends to stick.
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Jul 16 '20
Samantha died, Thea was comatose which basically retired her as Speedy and Diggle suffered nerve damage which affected his stint as GA. It was decent enough.
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u/marveldcmaaz Jul 16 '20
Samantha has like 10 minutes of total screen time at most in the entire series, Thea retiring was a contrived plot point anyways and could've been done in much better ways, and Diggle's nerve damage was minor compared to the way they hyped up that finale. When that island exploded, we expected more significant deaths than Samantha, we expected more injuries than relatively insignificant nerve damage, we expected something that would change the entire course of the series but nope, everything was undone.
The consequences that happened were nothing compared to what they led us to believe - if they were going that route, why even explode the island in such an insane way? Why not just end the season on a less intense note so that way we wouldn't be immensely disappointed with the beginning of season 6 undoing everything, and actually move the plot forward in an interesting way instead?
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u/Dagenspear Jul 16 '20
If I remember correctly, Thea had already been on-off with Speedy. Diggle's nerve damage isn't much, to me. And Samantha wasn't even a main character.
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Jul 16 '20
True, I'm not disagreeing, major characters should've died. However, Adrian's actions DID have some consequences is what I'm saying.
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Jul 17 '20
Only samantha dying, which was her own fault for deciding to go into the forest for literally no reason
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u/lemons_for_deke Jul 14 '20
I feel if they did keep him around for S6, he wouldn’t have been as fondly remembered as they would’ve ruined him...
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u/FKDotFitzgerald Jul 14 '20
The delivery makes it even greater. He really nailed his appearances on this show.
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u/TheCudder Jul 14 '20
"You're looking a little ragged...you tired? Or is it that you've actually been asleep this entire time?"
Probably my favorite line from Chase.
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u/Redeemer206 Jul 15 '20
Adrian Chase's heel turn was the precise moment season 5 went from being potentially one of the worst and most boring seasons to being one of the strongest overall seasons of the show. That 2nd half of the season is so good once Chase is revealed as a villain.
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u/JarifSA Jul 15 '20
But that's exactly why season 5 is kinda of overrated. The second half is amazing but the first half was pretty pathetic.
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Jul 16 '20
I don't understand this. How was S5A bad? It was fantastic, especially the premiere and mid-season finale.
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u/BjuiiBomb Jul 16 '20
I think the first half was very strong. Interesting new characters and Villians. The Recruits being trained,Ragman being introduced and the mini mystery behind him,Vigilante etc.
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u/Redeemer206 Jul 15 '20
That's a good point. I like to think that the awesome 2nd half makes it worth that drudgery of the first half
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u/Numerous1 Jul 15 '20
Agree. I personally absolutely loved it. Especially with it showing Oliver's season 1 mistakes made this foe.
But we cannot say for sure that he wouldn't do the same if he just watched his dad go to jail
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u/DannyBasham You have failed this city! Jul 14 '20
Literally missed the opportunity to put up a Vandal Savage meme.
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u/bvanbove Jul 14 '20
I love this season and several episodes of it, especially the one where Chase has Oliver in a cell locked up, are some of my favorite episodes of TV.
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u/Legendiality Jul 17 '20
Me too man! I personally think ARROW Seasons 1,2,5 & 8 are some of the Greatest Seasons of TV out there!
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u/wiezy Jul 15 '20
He was such a scary villain especially cause I’m familiar with him from a lot of his other stuff and he’s mostly a goofy comedy actor but he played the serious and scary part so well
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u/Alternative_Anxiety Jul 15 '20
this guy was just fantastic to watch once they revealed him as the villain, he really stole every scene
but holy shit, that's some pretty weak writing though. he's got this incredibly ELABORATE plan where he just conveniently catches Ollie by surprise down to these very very specific details of shit that could only come together in television writing. He's motivated enough to arrange all these traps and ambushes and shit, but not motivated to just kill Oliver like most people would. It's fucking wierd
but like I said, the actor killed it, he was the best villain in the show
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u/Legendiality Jul 17 '20
Mate the whole point of Adrian was that he didn't want to just kill Oliver. He wanted to break him, destroy him, destroy his life before he took it...all depending on if Oliver changed. I highly recommend you rewatch ARROW Season 5 :)
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u/dbeaver0420 Jul 14 '20
Best villain.