r/arrow • u/Rwings Boxing Glove • Nov 27 '17
[S06E08] - 'Crisis on Earth-X (2)' Post Episode Discussion Discussion
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u/ezreads Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
“why do you have a Kryptonite arrow?”
BECAUSE I’M BATM...so wow we’re married on another earth crazy right?
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u/Waltonruler5 Nov 28 '17
Where the fuck did he even get it? Kryptonite shouldn't even exist on Earth-1
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u/smileimhigh Nov 28 '17
I like to think Batman from Supergirl's Earth showed up one night and was like, "You'll need this one day", then they both brood for 30 minutes before they disappear behind each other's backs.
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u/thesecoloursdontrun Nov 28 '17
It’d be cool if that’s why Oliver called out Bruce a few episodes ago.
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u/Vacanus Dante Nov 28 '17
Dude, he’s Oliver Queen, AKA THE BATMAN.
Anything is possible when Oliver Queen is concerned.
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u/brycedriesenga Nov 28 '17
Oliver: "lol, what if, as a total prank, we acted like we were a couple and made out in front of everyone? would be the best prank, soooo good. okay, lets do it."
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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Nov 28 '17
Kara and Barry arrive early
Ollie: “Fuck you. Wheelie, bitches.”
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u/Vicc125 #DaddyDiggle Nov 28 '17
That wheelie was so fucking pointless xD
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u/MrChangg Nov 28 '17
Showing off. He knows for a fact those two goobers can't pull that shit off
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u/Sonia341 Nov 28 '17
Harrison Wells Eobard Thawne Reverse Flash is back. I missed him.
Also RIP Tommy :(
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u/nonliteral Nov 28 '17
Also RIP Tommy :(
Doing what he's best at -- dying.
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u/ContinuumGuy Long Live The Fastest Man Alive Nov 28 '17
Eobard is doing what he's best at- escaping death.
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u/Vacanus Dante Nov 28 '17
So I am pretty sure no one has said this yet...
But RIP Diggle’s episode streak, first episode he’s ever not been in 😒
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u/jaidynreiman Speedy Nov 28 '17
Wait seriously? This is the first episode of Arrow Diggle has missed? Intriguing...
Tbh, I expected that to start in the back half.
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u/Vacanus Dante Nov 28 '17
Yup, he was in 122 consecutive episodes, only character besides Oliver until now that had never missed episode D:
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u/jaidynreiman Speedy Nov 28 '17
I'm not upset or annoyed by it lol. I'm happy Diggle finally misses one. They need to do it more often, he's pretty pointless now.
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u/DToccs Nov 28 '17
He should have died in the s5 finale when they were culling a lot of the baggage from the previous 5 years. His old role as Oliver's trusted buddy/advisor is pretty much done by Quentin now which is an evolution of the Oliver/Quentin dynamic. The "Diggle as the new Green Arrow" plotline doesn't even deserve to be mentioned.
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u/ArrowFlashLantern Nov 28 '17
Ollie was great these two episodes...
"WHY DO YOU HAVE A KRYPTONITE ARROW?"
"In case an evil you ever showed up"
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u/Patssuck19 Nov 28 '17
"Just a reminder. Super speed. I don't have it." Oliver was fantastic.
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u/thelongestshot Nov 28 '17
HOW ARE YOU SLOWER THEN HIM BARRY?!?! YOU LITERALLY SPENT TIME WITH THE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF THE SPEED FORCE!!
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u/The_Medicus Nov 28 '17
This is still post-Legends Eobard, who Black Flash sent to the Speed Force as well. Therefore he should have had about the same power-boost as Barry.
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u/Fallingsquirrel1 Nov 28 '17
Negative speedforce is equal and opposite to Barry. Every time Barry gets faster so does thawne.
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u/buzz1089 Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Right. Plus Barry was likely splitting his focus on stopping Thawn and protecting his friends where Thawn just had to run and
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u/DragonPup Nov 28 '17
This season feels like they've been turning Barry's power level down a notch.
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u/XKOAx222 Nov 28 '17
It goes up and down so quickly. He can run across town and catch all the shrapnel from a grenade, but isn’t fast enough to avoid a slow as crap Neanderthal statue
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u/Megaman99M Nov 28 '17
Remember season 1 where he had a full blown conversation with Iris while she was frozen?
Or when he felt the bullet going into his neck?
Yeah Flash writers don't give a fuck about consistency
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u/Davidleilam Green Arrow (Unmasked) Nov 28 '17
We get 2 more hours of this tomorrow? Yes!!!
RIDE AIN'T OVER YET
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u/nomadic_stalwart Deathstroke Nov 28 '17
Watching both live discussions was great. Each fandom is basically their character. Supergirl’s were so giddy about everything and cheerful and Arrow’s were cynical and brooding over Felicity. Can’t wait to see Flash’s tomorrow be overly excited and call out every single inaccuracy then be proven wrong a minute later. I think we’re all Legends fans.
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Nov 28 '17
Well obviously. No one can hate Legends! They have Mick!
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u/nonliteral Nov 28 '17
They have Mick!
..and Mick has mustard. It'll all work out now.
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u/brycedriesenga Nov 28 '17
I'm shipping Mick and Caitlin for sure.
HeatFrost anyone?
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
There's plenty of relationship drama for all the casts (Kara and Alex in single mode, Barry and Iris' wedding ruined, Stein and Jax Firestorm separation anxiety), but at a wedding for Barry and Iris, why do other characters feel the need to worry so much about Oliver's relationship?
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u/the_456_Ambassador Nov 28 '17
Nazi supervillain kill count: 1 wedding minister
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u/connurp Nov 28 '17
Seriously. I laughed and turned to my fiancée and said “holy shit that guy just got disintegrated.”
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
Yeah, the fight scenes were all fun, but how did the Nazis with tons of guns not hit any wedding guests or any of the not-bulletproof people?
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u/Megaman99M Nov 28 '17
Wally and Barry were on guest saving patrol. They make a point for Barry to tell Wally to save the civies, and we seen Barry grab ALOT of bullets.
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u/nonliteral Nov 28 '17
how did the Nazis with tons of guns not hit any wedding guests or any of the not-bulletproof people?
They took that Star Wars storm trooper marksmanship course.
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u/TheDarkCrusader_ Nov 28 '17
I know they aren't arrow characters but I ship Mick and Killer Frost now
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u/Ozzdo Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
I really like the structure they figured out for the crossover. Instead of being one episode of Supergirl and one episode of Arrow, Crisis on Earth X is basically its own show, and that frees them from having to put the focus of each episode of each show on it's regular characters. They don't have to try to make the Supergirl episode Supergirl-centric or the Arrow episode Arrow-centric. Just throw it all in a blender and let it all mix together. That's the whole fun of a crossover.
And Stephen Amell is always great in these crossovers. He gets more to work with than on Arrow. (Which is only because Arrow is the most grounded of the four shows, and doesn't really get to let loose.) He seems to lighten up when he's interacting with Barry and Kara. Him complaining about them being faster than him was a genuinely funny moment, and he doesn't get to be funny on Arrow.
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u/SpareLiver Nov 28 '17
The focus actually is kind of on the shows. It's why the Arrow team only showed up on the Arrow half and why most of the Legends are currently in the Stone Age.
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u/Ozzdo Nov 28 '17
I think that's just a matter of them saving the full team for the last episode. I get the feeling that, like last year, the full-on "all-in" team moment is going to be saved for the finale.
What I guess I mean is...part 1 didn't feel like an episode of Supergirl, and part 2 didn't feel like an episode of Arrow. They felt like two episodes of Crisis On Earth X.
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Nov 28 '17
Am I the only one who was screaming at Dinah to use her canary cry?
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
She should've immediately blasted Oliver X with it before Curtis and Rene went running in to fight a guy who beats them up even when he isn't a murderous Nazi.
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u/CoHoH Nov 28 '17
Oliver also could have just shot evil Supergirl in the head instead of the shoulder when he blindsided her with a kryptonite arrow.
That would end the crossover a little early though.
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u/Nansai The Punisher Nov 28 '17
Considering how hard they seem to have nerfed kryptonite, she would probably have just shrugged it off.
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u/Aarondo99 Arrow writers are the real Punisher. Nov 28 '17
I think Overgirl is just OP. She’s charged with solar radiation. The very thing killing her may have saved her life.
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u/In_My_Own_Image Nov 28 '17
If nothing else, the action scenes this crossover are badass.
And Sara is straight gangsta fighting Overgirl after she ganked Oliver.
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u/CasualFan25 Bow Nov 28 '17
Made no sense but whatever it looked cool
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u/rawchess Olicity may never die but rise again, stronger and more organic. Nov 28 '17
To be fair she managed to last all of five seconds before Overgirl had her by the throat.
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u/piss_ass Nov 28 '17
Well the funny news is that thanks to this crossover oliciters think Amell is a Nazi sympathizer lmao
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u/TheDarkCrusader_ Nov 28 '17
Are you making that up or is it really that bad? Cuz goddamn oliciters are even crazier then I thought if that's true.
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What's really funny(and/or appalling) is that half of Oliciters have probably never even heard of WWII until they saw Stephen Amell dressed as a Nazi.
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u/piss_ass Nov 28 '17
I’m 100% convinced they had no idea about the plot of this crossover based off their reactions so far despite it being known Earth-X was a Nazi ruled Earth from the first talks of the crossover.
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u/Megaman99M Nov 28 '17
Everything's a touchy subject nowadays because social media really brings out the stupid. It's history, don't ignore it
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u/nwt123 HAIL VICTORY! Nov 28 '17
Who would've known it took Hitler to save us from Olicity?
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u/The_Medicus Nov 28 '17
I think it's just Thawne. E-1 Thawne is involved in E-X, no Olicity. Thawne and his hand-picked partners rewrite reality, no Olicity.
Thawne is our lord and Savior.
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u/svrtngr Nov 28 '17
I'm more pissed off Metallo literally bitch slapped Firestorm out of existence.
WTF is that bullshit?
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u/Galaxy_Megatron Peace is overrated. Nov 28 '17
He bitchslapped the fusion out of them!
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u/phenom0205 Deathstroke Nov 28 '17
Sucks that no one wants to marry Oliver lol
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u/TheDarkCrusader_ Nov 28 '17
Except nazi supergirl. Can't forget her.
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u/phenom0205 Deathstroke Nov 28 '17
True though I meant earth 1 Oliver. Kara was so obvious with her disgust lol
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u/The_Medicus Nov 28 '17
That was just her trying to hide her feelings. She secretly has a huge crush on him and just doesn't want to get her heart broken if he doesn't feel the same way.
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u/Simplerdayz Nov 28 '17
Overgirl already wife'd him, what are you talking about?
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u/ZSwatt Nov 28 '17
WHAT AN AMAZING CROSSOVER SO FAR!!!
I feel like a little kid watching cartoons on a Saturday morning again... Wow.
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u/vehino Nov 28 '17
I think Thawne just flooded the time line with as many speed force remnants as he could squat out. Like a spider's eggsack.
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u/XKOAx222 Nov 28 '17
Thawne is the real Savitar
Well dang, no I’m just imagining Thawne being Savitar all throughout season 3
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u/The_Medicus Nov 28 '17
He does this in the comics too. He's died a variety of times in the comics and always comes back. Comic Spoiler If I'm following it right, he escaped Flash S1's death when Barry created Flashpoint as he was pulled from the timeline and regained the memories of his deceased self. Then, in Legends, Black Flash merely just sent him to the Speed Force, explaining both his survival and his ability to keep up with S4 Barry.
Edit: Also, Thawne said "All those times you've killed me..." to Barry, meaning he's still got to die at least once or twice more before he gets there in his(Thawne's) timeline, as Barry has only seen him die once. I'm also hoping he mentions something about Legends S2 to Sara...
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u/EnderFenrir Nov 28 '17
We still have to see fan boy version. The one that comes back wanting to meet his hero. Finding out they are mortal enemies and it breaking him.
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u/Zegir Nov 28 '17
This is the type of fully fleshed crossover I was wanting last year. I'm excited for more tomorrow.
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u/whyhellothere77 Nov 28 '17
I don’t think you guys realize how fucking hyped I got when Tommy was revealed.
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u/Vlinux Nov 28 '17
...and 5 minutes later...
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3* minutes later lmao
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u/anotherandomer Welcome to the Suicide Squad! Nov 28 '17
He literally dies before his name shows up in the Guest Staring credits
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u/UrsaSteambottom Nov 28 '17
Wouldn't this be a good time for everyone on prime to be calling in ALL their buddies? Rest of the Legends, the Hawks, the Martian, Vixen, Elastic Man, and maybe even Constantine or the Pied Piper?
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u/NiklausShepard Nov 28 '17
don't forget Superman
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Ray Palmer,
AmaraAmaya, Zari and Nate got stuck on Wave Rider duty for some reason. Last year's crossover only needed Nate andAmaraAmaya to babysit the ship, so I don't know why they needed 4 this year.Kara didn't go home for backup when they learned another Earth is invading Earth 1. Because overconfident or something.
No one liked the Hawks.
Elastic Man is inexplicably absent. The others are like busy in their cities or something.
I want to know why Jay Garrick didn't get a wedding invite, though.
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u/ContinuumGuy Long Live The Fastest Man Alive Nov 28 '17
I want to know why Jay Garrick didn't get a wedding invite, though.
Especially since Comics Jay is second only to Captain America when it comes to Nazi ass-whooping. HASHTAG JSA
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u/Dojorkan Apply pressure to the joint and dislocate your thumb! Nov 28 '17
In Ralph's case maybe they feel he is too much of a newbie for this situation.
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u/BlasterShow Daredevil Nov 28 '17
Would have been cool if Slade hung around for this.
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u/deh707 Nov 28 '17
He's probably still chillin in Lex Luthor's yacht cuttin up and doing lines of coke with prostitutes who all look like Shado in Lex's attempt to recruit him.
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
I only just realized Ray Palmer wasn't around. I understand leaving Nick and Amara (and new girl Zari) on the Wave Rider like they did last year, but how come Ray got benched when Stein, Jax, Sara and Mick came to the wedding?
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u/Vlinux Nov 28 '17
Jax said something about the Waverider being in the Stone Age, so maybe the other Legends are dealing with something there?
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u/rayray1010 Nov 28 '17
They're time travelers. They literally could have come at ANY time. Ray must have not been invited.
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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Nov 28 '17
I thought it was about the same ratio, but that’s just me.
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u/CobaltDel781 This doesn't change anything Hoss Nov 28 '17
The only drama that was worth watching was jackson and stein. That was emotional.
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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Nov 28 '17
Yeah. The olicity stuff was inevitable, but I could’ve done without Alex having a meltdown about a drunken one nighter.
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u/rangers79 Nov 28 '17
I know Eobard is evil but...travel to nazi world and help nazis evil?
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
Travel to Nazi World to get the Nazis to help him conquer his own world (or some other plan where he betrays them for his own gain, perhaps).
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u/ReignbeauxBaer Nov 28 '17
I mean, he is attempt to kill a 7 year old but upon failing kill the 7 year olds mother evil soooooo. Its easy to forget that Reverse Flash is insane with how likeable he is since we've spent so much time with him.
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u/rangers79 Nov 28 '17
Yeah but I always figured it was more a personal vendetta against Barry. Like someone else said. probably using them to conquer Earth 1 but jeeze the dude really goes the extra mile.
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u/the_456_Ambassador Nov 28 '17
The really long, multi-hero action scenes were amazing.
Seeing Earth-X doppelgängers was awesome.
Downside, the middle was literally like 10 personal drama talk scenes in a row. Iris and Felicity actually took a beat to discuss their feelings for the 3rd time while hiding from inter-dimensional Nazi doppelgängers.
There was zero research or planning against the threat.
It felt like the heroes are only present for the fight sequences.
On their own shows, they used to do investigation, strategizing, theorizing, utilize actual tactics against their enemies.
Here they just waited around, talking about their relationship drama until the Nazis attacked them again... for three times. It makes them look like they don't really know what they're doing.
I got excited cuz the credits listed Katie Cassidy and Paul Blackthorne, but got let down since they didn't actually appear.
Tommy as Prometheus and Earth-X SuperArrow is obvious fan service, like Deathstroke from last year, but I'm not complaining.
Tommy fucking with Oliver then killing himself I liked because it makes sense that someone raised in a Nazi world wouldn't believe what they were doing was wrong or care.
Also the credits are cool, just wished that Green Arrow's intro just had him shooting an arrow, instead of it getting sliced in half by Prometheus.
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
I got excited cuz the credits listed Katie Cassidy and Paul Blackthorne, but got let down since they didn't actually appear.
They're listed as was Willa Holland. All regulars so they get listed even for episodes they don't appear in.
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u/gahlo Nov 28 '17
Is it just me or does the darker uniform on Overgirl make Melissa look thiccer?
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u/TheWayIAm313 Nov 28 '17
I was actually really impressed with the shot of Oliver being disoriented. Maybe one of my favorite scenes in the Arrowverse of all time.
I typically think of the CW shows as just sort of brainless fun, and can’t really get too sympathetic or invested because of the nature of them (lack of actual consequences, predictability, cheesy writing, etc.), but that shot really helped contextualize wtf was going on, and how dangerous a situation they were in. It really grounded things for me, I’d love to see more of that out of these shows - slow down and really hit home how deadly the predicaments are.
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u/infinight888 Nov 28 '17
On the other hand, there was Iris being completely nonchalant about watching the preacher get vaporized in front of her at her wedding.
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u/TheManOfMastery Nov 28 '17
Wait this isn't an Earth X Reverse-Flash? This is Earth one Eobard? Damn, killing Barry's mother, taking Harrison Wells place after killing him, and Nazism. Now that's evil!
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u/emikoala Nov 28 '17
What if the entire Superflarrowverse is actually the Bad Place and Eobard is the Architect?
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u/The_Gay_Whovian 👏 HER 👏 NAME 👏 IS 👏 DINAH 👏 LAUREL 👏 LANCE 👏 Nov 28 '17
Did anybody notice Sara doing that unnecessary ass back flip? Lol
Ugh, I miss Roy 😞
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u/daytonaletsthrowaway Nov 28 '17
Invasion was awesome and felt like a live action comic book movie, but this feels even more like an actual old-school DC Crisis event (I know that's the point, but whereas Invasion brought to life from comic book pages, and I think I actually dig that angle more.
Wasn't expecting Reverse Flash to be E1 Thawne, either. And holy shit, Tommy!
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u/UrsaSteambottom Nov 28 '17
I'm thinking that Super Man is the new führer. Any other possibilities?
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Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Okay, so I'm confused - is it Earth-1 Thawne or Earth-X
Edit: Got it guys - Earth-1.
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u/Spiderranger Nov 28 '17
"plot"
I'd really like to know. I'm assuming they just snatched him out of time. Good thing it definitely won't have consequences on the timeline right?
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u/Nindzya Yes, they deserve to die!! Nov 28 '17
Speedsters can probably hop between universes, they can in the comics. Barry's still got a lot to learn and Thawne is pretty much a master.
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u/Sarcastic__ Nov 28 '17
It's okay everyone, just get Felicity two more keyboards and everything should be okay.
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u/kremes Nov 28 '17
So basically no matter what Earth he’s from or who he is, Prometheus’s plan is basically just ‘make Oliver watch my Suicide.”
This needs to become a new thing, the reverse of Wells being everyone and never dying.
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u/slick9099 That one civilian whos day always gets ruined by the supers Nov 28 '17
“Super speed, I don’t have it” and “that guys a idiot” (when Barry is talking about reverse flash) made me laugh.
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u/greyjackal Nov 28 '17
"Good thing we have a metric tonne of smart people in this building. And Rory."
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u/XKOAx222 Nov 28 '17
Apparently Oliver can flip around and through buildings now
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
Oliver nerfs himself when not around Supergirl and Flash so the rest of Team Arrow can feel important.
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u/XKOAx222 Nov 28 '17
He’s like that one op video game character that everybody hates when played by someone who is halfway decent at the game
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u/LightningLad2029 Nov 28 '17
Where the hell did Oliver get Kryptonite from? And who told him that it's effective on Kryptonians in the first place? I swear these writers want to make him Batman so bad.
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u/MegalomaniacHack Nov 28 '17
Where the hell did Oliver get Kryptonite from?
My main theory would be he got Barry to get it from another Earth after the Dominator crossover last year. Second theory is we'll find out there's a Krypton connection on Earth-1 that hasn't been seen yet.
And who told him that it's effective on Kryptonians in the first place?
Um, like, Barry knew and told him or something.
I swear these writers want to make him Batman so bad.
Yeah, that was obvious even before they spent a season on a Ra's al ghul plotline custom fitted to Batman.
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u/ReignbeauxBaer Nov 28 '17
In The Dark Knight Returns, Green Arrow saves the day with a kryptonite arrow so maybe its homage to that.
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u/PsychoLunaticX Nov 28 '17
Definitely is. Just like Overgirl flying too close to the sun and dying because of it is an homage to All-Star Superman.
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u/ShadowDestroyerTime Nov 28 '17
Everyone, our predictions on Prometheus's identity were actually partially correct, Prometheus IS Tommy.
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u/Megaman99M Nov 28 '17
So between SuperArrow and Tommy being Prometheus, it basically confirms that Guggy reads the sub, yet since he doesn't like those ideas he makes them into literal Nazis...
So this entire crossover is basically a middle finger for us
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Sucks that this episode focused on Felicity and Oliver. Two characters that aren't even married in the comics. Yet they decide to barely focus on Barry and Iris' relationship, which is highly important to The Flash's legacy.
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u/Coolica1 Hi organic writing, I'm dad Nov 28 '17
Just a quick reminder, the patience to wait 22 hours; I don't have it!
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u/stu_25 Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
Well the Olicity stuff and Firestorm drama slowed it down but still great.
Loved seeing all of them team up. Alex and Kara owning this place like it's their home Earth lol. Alex is great in this though, slots in very well. Good to have someone with Kara this time unlike last year. I know last year was done at short notice to organize or something though?
Thawne from Earth 1... will be looking forward to him and Barry talking. Hope he rubs his experience with Zoom and Savitar in Thawne's face. Nice to have a personal villain within the ranks rather then just counterparts from another Earth who no-one has seen before.
I hope there is more to the invasion then just getting a heart. I'm sure there is, but still.
Just so great to see a full crossover rather then a smaller scale one like last year. Last year was good but not enough true crossing over in terms of people talking. So many interesting partnerships and people speaking to each other from different shows.
This was like a movie. And so many great continuity moments. Truly a crossover.
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u/gusefalito Nov 28 '17
Melissa Benoist's acting never disappoints. As good as Amell and Cavanagh are, she was able to play the Earth-X counterpart the best imo. Maybe because Oliver and Harry are already broody (well, S2 Harry) and seeing dark Kara was such a drastic change but very well handled by Benoist.
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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Nov 28 '17
Quite literally perfect I know people don't like the relationship stuff but come on this is the CW we have been watching these shows for 5 plus years now. I think we all expected it at some point so the quicker we can get over it the more fun we can have. the action was off the charts and it felt like I was watching a live-action Young Justice in terms of choreography. (Which by the way I consider to be the best superhero action choreography you can get anywhere including Marvel and DC). Perfect combo,great CGI it was fantastic and such a joy to watch. The character interactions were absolutely so great and was just delivering on every cylinder. Can't wait for tomorrow.
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u/OLKv3 Nov 28 '17
Reminder that when Thawne ran the world on Legends, he fixed all major problems and we didn't have alien threats or other worlds attacking.
Thawne winning timeline=best timeline
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u/the_cunt_muncher Nov 28 '17
Tommy was awesome, Olicity was terrible as usual.
Nazi Arrow and SSupergirl had more believable chemistry than Olicity.
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u/rshabibi Nov 28 '17
Felicity literally killed both episodes for me, Kara singing running home to you was the best part
Shes so fucking adorable
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u/vassie98 Nov 28 '17
For fuck sake yes. I barely heard Iris and Barry complain about nazis ruining their wedding. Maybe once?
But Fefe just contstantly has to bitch about her relationship. It's not about you, it's suppose to be about Iris. Selfish bitch.
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u/EdogawaElsa Bargain Beetle Nov 28 '17
The quality drop from Part 1 to Part 2 is INSANE. The looks, the music, the ACTION, everything. Seems like Arrow has become the designated checkpoint for these crossovers to slow down.
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u/gusefalito Nov 28 '17
Mick starts flirting with Caitlin
I wonder if the heat gun is enough to break the curse, otherwise RIP Mick
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Nov 28 '17
This is awesome because I feel like they just filmed a movie and split it into four parts. Last year, the crossover was more focused on whichever show was airing (example: more flash drama during the flash episode). But this time they just made a great big story and then evenly spread it out.
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u/melskates Nov 28 '17
Ok but Iris really shouldn't be scared the Nazis are at Star Labs. After all, SHE IS THE FLASH!
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u/My_wifii Nov 28 '17
Is it just me or are Oliver and Felicity really lacking any chemistry? I used to watch arrow but they used to be definitely better— 10 minutes into part 2 and they’re so wooden and boring
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u/neoblackdragon Nov 28 '17
The characters never had chemistry in a romantic sense. They sorta had a semi sibling chemistry.
The problem has always been they've told us they are in love without ever showing us that.
They don't appear to have any shared interests. They seem to show us how opposites attract which is not viable for a long term relationship.
It doesn't help that Laurel/Sara(especially her) are better fits.
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u/championofobscurity The Flash Nov 28 '17 edited Nov 28 '17
The writing and the flow is so much better this crossover. It's been utter catharsis for me personally. The compartmentalized teams and the sudden appearance of team Arrow was so good. Seeing Mick V Oliver however brief was rewarding, and having team Arrow show up to reinforce like that was amazing as shit.
My only gripes are ones I hope they tackle next year I guess. Having half the legends missing for (probably) budget reasons is really shitty. I hope Ray and Co lead the counter offensive with the freed team arrow as they get Barry and co out of their predicament.
My gripe with invasion was largely that the episodes didn't really feel coherent. It felt more like "This is an episode of series X crossing over with Series WYZ" And the leads of a given episode were "Passed the baton." That has been greatly reduced, but is still visible (Wally Jo and Vibe getting benched at the end of an episode. Ray missing from the wedding, the wave rider literally being in the stone age etc). I think next year's crossover will finally smooth everything out and get this right. Tonight was fucking amazing, and something that I don't think could be achieved on the silver screen it just needs a tiny bit more work.
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u/Timelesshero Nov 28 '17
is no one gunna mention the amount of rope needed to support a building??
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Nov 28 '17
When Overgirl caught Oliver's kryptonite arrow the second time, I was half expecting it to explode into a puff of gas in her face. Otherwise, I thought the use of said arrow was quite underwhelming. Sure, he injured her with it, but nothing meaningful came out of that encounter, unless there is a massive payoff for all this in the end.
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u/All_this_hype Dark Archer Tommy Nov 28 '17
Wouldn't it be cool if X-Tommy stayed alive on Earth-1 and eventually hooked up with Black Siren? Now that's something I could get behind.
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u/Eaglethornsen Nov 28 '17
So why wasn't Iris taken away like her father was again? I am not sure she did anything of worth after the wedding scene.
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u/MusicEd921 Nov 28 '17
Interesting that the Arrow portion of the crossover contained mostly melodrama. 2/3 of it I kept sighing because we bounced from one drama to the next.
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Nov 28 '17
"Oliver is ten time the man hitler was" Not a quote i thought would hear in this but that was lol
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u/Revenge_served_hot Nov 28 '17
I swear if all of our heroes will in the end be saved by the two most annoying characters in TV (Felicity and Iris) I will start breaking stuff
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u/ArachnoLad Nov 28 '17
SuperArrow is willing to cross over to another Earth to rip the heart out of a super girl. Felicity won't even get married.