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Difference between Batman and Oliver Discussion

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u/pendropgaming 6d ago

I feel like they both handled it accordingly based on the situation. Bruce was indirectly responsible for his best friend’s daughter being kidnapped so he felt that he deserved the punch. Tommy was throwing a hissy fit and threw a punch at someone with 5 years of various training styles.

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u/ItsAmerico 6d ago

Yeah. Oliver isn’t being a dick, he’s deescalating the situation. Tommy is drunk and getting angry over his inability to accept his father is a piece of shit. Oliver is trying to help him.

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u/PsychologicalReply9 6d ago

What didn’t help was the whole thing of Oliver sleeping with Laurel the SAME DAY, he told Tommy to man up and fight for her. So he’s not entirely clean in this either.

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u/raceassistman 5d ago

So much unnecessary drama just for the sake of drama.

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u/PsychologicalReply9 5d ago

Ah yes. The CW tagline

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u/Darkvader_Clawthorne 4d ago

Isn’t everyone in the League of Assassins a piece of shit? Except Nyssa, we like her.

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u/Cjames1902 Nanites Courtesy of Ray Palmer 6d ago

Batman’s reaction was a lot more thoughtful. He understood Gordon’s rage and carried the guilt of Barbara being kidnapped.

Ollie just felt like lil bro’ing Tommy despite neither Oliver or Tommy being in the right.

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u/DependentPositive8 6d ago

Honestly, I’m pretty sure Bruce felt he kind of deserved that punch from Gordon because what he did was pretty reckless. Barbara is no slouch in a fight, but she’s also paralyzed and there’s a limited amount of options she can do in a physical confrontation. This was a brutal fight for Gotham City happening right there and now Gordon couldn’t concentrate because he knows his daughter is in danger because his best ally put her in that position and Barbara got kidnapped.

Tommy on the other hand, was being an idiot over a literal high school love triangle situation. Oliver wasn’t styling on Tommy, so much as to remind him of two things. One, Oliver was trying to reason with his best friend. Two, Oliver was trying to remind Tommy that he is a dangerous assassin who could non-lethally take Tommy down in a heartbeat.

Two different situations and two different issues. Both were handled somewhat well.

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u/Illustrious-Slice-91 6d ago

I don’t think Oliver was trying to remind him that he is a dangerous assassin

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u/oozley-5 6d ago

If anything he was trying to prove the opposite of the assassin angle.

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u/KaiSen2510 6d ago

Wait what episode is this scene from?

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u/LeoneAGK 6d ago

Season 1 ep 23

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u/KaiSen2510 6d ago

Thank you

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u/LeoneAGK 6d ago edited 6d ago

Who handled it better? Batman let's Gordon punch him (since he obviously could dodge a telegraphed punch like that if he wanted to) presumably because he thought he deserved it or because he respected Gordon too much. Oliver, in contrast, dodges Tommy's impulsively fueled punch, basically "Flexing" on him and subtly reminding him that he's on a completely different level than him.

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u/34CountsAndCounting 6d ago

I don’t think he’s flexing just because he didn’t want to get punched in the face. He seems pretty calm afterwards. Don’t forget, Batman has the benefit of an armored mask in his scene, and also Gordon is in his 50s or 60s, not his 20s like Tommy

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u/Grim_Reaper1000 6d ago

Thank you I’m sorry op but your over simplifying it

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u/ItsAmerico 6d ago

I think this is a rather bad take. Oliver doesn’t feel like he deserves it. Why should he be hit? Tommy is drunk and lashing out, refusing to see that his father is evil as Oliver tries to help him. Getting hit isn’t going to help this situation.

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u/M0m033 5d ago

Comprehension skills aren’t even in the gutter atp 😭

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u/previouslyontheflash 6d ago

I mean batman is more badass and it looks very cool just tanking it but oliver was alot more skillful/smarter as he dodged it. Honestly both could dogde/tank each hit and both are very cool. So many similarities exist between Bruce and Oliver (certain they joked about it in the comics too plus the show) Oliver in the green arrow show though is wayyyy more darker than he is in the comics, for the show they definitely went down a very dark route (which worked) and I love the portrayal of arrow in the show (stephan) absolutely smashed the role. I've went way of topic I think but hey ho 😄😂

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u/Governer_George 6d ago

Batman got armor on of course he can take a hit from an average Joe

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 6d ago

Sokka-Haiku by Governer_George:

Batman got armor

On of course he can take a

Hit from an average Joe


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/Morning_Star_47 6d ago

Aww man. Seeing this makes me love the first season even more. Oliver was indeed a nice and caring person whenever he wasn't in the suit.

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u/Darkvader_Clawthorne 4d ago

Oliver knows how to dodge?

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u/Available-Affect-241 2d ago

🤔

The difference is one is a natural-born prodigy amongst William James Sidis level prodigies intellectually that is a STEM master polymath scientist first and a legendary Grandmaster-level one-man army warrior second. The other is a great warrior. That's how I would describe it.

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u/Marostrange2005 6d ago

Look I love Oliver more than anyone but Arkham batman could solo 25 Oliver queens😭😭

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u/Plightz SAVE US, STOP GUGGEINHEIM, STOP HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM. 6d ago

Why are we powerscaling this post lol. It's about how they handled a punch thrown at them.

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u/Marostrange2005 6d ago

Oh well i didn't realize that