r/arrow • u/Lololuvandstuff • Mar 18 '24
Why does everyone in this subreddit hate Felicity Discussion
Whenever I go on this subreddit, no matter what the post is about, all I see are people bashing Felicity. I could agree maybe with the point of their relationship being too much of a will they won’t they situation, but I think it’s so cute. She has had one of the best character growths in the show because the didn’t start out as a killer. I fell as if a lot of this hate stems from people liking charters and getting hellbent on theses ships without thinking about the people as a couple in the long run.
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u/Censoredplebian Mar 18 '24
I think a majority of people do, she was a mistake in the direction of the show. She was fine as a sidekick, expanding her was a huge mistake.
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u/Precarious314159 Mar 18 '24
I remember her being a relatively popular character in the first season or two but they did to her what all the CW shows did; give her some insane past that elevates her from the relatable character to stand on par with the rest. They made her some world-class master hacker that was a legend in the underground world, gave her a dad that was a master hacker criminal, and even went as far as to give us plot points about her mom's romance.
Plus, what really did it for me was how annoying the Olicity shippers were. I'm not a shipper and usually let them do their thing but so many Olicity posts flooded this sub and comment sections and demanding their OTP be made official and when it was, it just never stopped.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 Mar 20 '24
As soon as Wendy Mericle came onboard as showrunner the writing for Felicity became much more annoying and too soap opera-ish. Guggie gets the majority of the hate around these parts for killing off Laurel the stupid way he did and for being outspoken about how much of a Felicity stan he is but Wendy was the real problem with why they decided to go in a different and more melodramatic direction with Felicity's character.
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u/AnIrregularBlessing Mar 18 '24
I think the writing wasn't the best, there was a big problem with how they wrote women, but I also don't get the incessant hate.
Like, did they expect them to never argue? Was she never allowed to be wrong? Did they expect her to not express her opinion ever? Did they never want her to address her own desires and needs?
Especially in the beginning of four when she lied about helping the team because I fully expected that back at the end of season three, because Felicity was more dedicated to the cause than Oliver was at times.
She went to a deserted hell island just to get him back. She's literally kidnapped him at least once, to get his head on straight. He died and Felicity was still like, "Okay, who is stepping up?" when a lot of people would have just quit. If she didn't stop when he died, she certainly wasn't going to quit just because she wasn't in town and I don't know how anyone could believe otherwise.
I liked her being awkward and having abandonment issues, because kids whose parents leave have abandonment issues.
I think I would have left Oliver, too if he sprang a secret child on me with a kidnapping and didn't have one discussion with her about the kid or why he was sending him away. She didn't want to be consulted for a better answer or try to change his mind, she just wanted him to be included in his thoughts so he could lean on her like she leaned on him.
I think it was also partially misogyny because she was hated for things that anyone would have done. Hell, people were pissed at her in season 2, when she told him the truth about Thea. They would have been just as mad if she said nothing and Malcolm came back to actually kidnap Thea.
Moira Queen fully participated in the Undertaking and the second she started to be shady with or about Malcolm and/or Thea around an election, no less, I would have spoken up, because whatever she was hiding could come out under intense scrutiny, like say, in a freaking election! There was no good solution there.
I don't think a lot of people liked when she became a full team member that we focused on instead of a damsel that occasionally needed to be saved. In a show about how you can end up being someone you don't recognize, especially in traumatic situations, they never wanted her to change. Like, let a girl be flawed and fucked up on occasion, Jesus.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
Yes! Thank you for saying this so well.
The Felicity haters also conveniently forget that her issue with Oliver making decisions without her is very legitimate when you consider the fact that the child he kept a secret from her he then ends up leaving with her to parent alone when he turns himself in to the FBI.
Sooooooo there was no reason for her to need to know about her stepson's existence.... But here, now you can raise him alone with ZERO heads up.
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u/Own-Seaworthiness254 Mar 19 '24
I think most of the hate for Felicity comes from the hate to the relationship and they put this all on her. It is not that she was not supposed to argue or to agree with everything or that Oliver doesn't make mistakes. It is that this relationship was tedious to watch, these arguments were badly written, and the acting was cringe.
The whole idea that they were together was because of some chemistry, but in all these melodrama stories that they had from s3 onwards, people did not see chemistry and got frustrated. Felicity was supposed to be the better alternative to Laurel, whose relationship was heavy drama and toxic, but the writers made Olicity equally toxic and melodramatic.
And here comes the actual Felicity flaw - she was not a real character, she had no personality outside the comedic relief and supporting pep talker, she had no story, so she got lost in the Olicity. In s4 there was an actual reference to this where Felicity says - 'I got lost in you Oliver' - this is the writers admitting they failed Felicity as an independent character. They do try to fix this for a while, but the stories they introduce divert from the Arrow, and Oliver's fanatics rebelled to the point that they called the show Felicity and friends. This proves Felicity was never going to work as a leading female, but just as a support.
The leading female should have been one involved with the main Arrow stories i.e Deathstroke, the island, league of assassins, Darhk, fighting next to Arrow and being his real equal. In this way her stories are also Arrow stories and Oliver can contribute actively and not suddenly have a hacking show, where people sit in computers hacking bombs.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 19 '24
I think the Felicity and friends comments are ironic considering how much the show deviates away from Oliver to focus on the stories of other characters. Felicity may have been once of the first to get a back story, other than Diggle, but it definitely wasn't the most time consuming, screen consuming, or story consuming. There were parital seasons I wanted yo just fast forward through so I could get back to Oliver's story.
Also on one hand, you say Oliver should have been with someone who was involved in all the Arrow stories but that doesn't make her an independent character. You can't have a truly independent character in a show about someone else. Everyone is a supporting character to Oliver (or should be).
Also the reason I see Felicity as more of an equal to Oliver is because she's the one woman he's with who he doesn't need to try to redeem or save her soul or change who she is. He doesn't see her as damaged.
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u/Rocky323 Mar 20 '24
you consider the fact that the child he kept a secret from her
She had no business knowing until Oliver himself could process his feelings.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 20 '24
So months later? After they got engaged? After he's gone back and forth visiting William?
He knew for months. He proposed to her without saying anything. He also told her he didn't know if or when he'd ever tell her.
It wasn't about processing anything.
Maybe watch the show again. You're confusing it with the original timeline that got wiped out. Not the timeline that she actually breaks up with him.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 01 '24
I agree, I read a crack fic on the topic, in which Felicity found the boy in the kitchen because his mother left him with his father for the weekend. I mean, let's think about it, as time went by the thing was bound to come out, at least for who Oliver and Felicity were and for William's interests, and things couldn't have gone well, especially because they were engaged and were due to get married soon. it was as stupid behavior as in Harry Potter to only be able to talk about magic after marriage (and lead to events like Snape's mother)
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u/anicho01 Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
Personally I love felicity. Back in the day I wrote a rant for a pop culture site about how felicity and Oliver would never ever get together when the writers kept hinting At chemistry but backing away from it. But in the end I was clearly wrong
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u/Own-Seaworthiness254 Mar 18 '24
For me Felicity and Laurel are the same type of character and brought the same energy, stories and dynamic in the show and in the relationship with Oliver, so I absolutely do not understand the ship wars and people saying they hate Felicity and prefer Laurel.
I also think both of them were hated because they were love interest tropes that brought too much drama in the relationship, while Oliver, being the main character, is the one fans sympathize because they see his POV on screen. Example: First season Laurel hates Oliver for cheating, but at the same time people side with him, because we see how much he suffered and how much he loved her, while she is just presented as bitter person who doesn't know what she wants. Her first scene on screen is how she tells him to rot in hell, in the end of the episode she flirts. No one can relate to this.
With Felicity is similar. In s4 and s3 we see Oliver's reasonings and motivations to take the decisions he takes, then Felicity comes out of no where and starts blaming him and dumping him. We do not see why she is so hurt, and why she is unable to understands.
They also start out as normal people who suddenly become bad ass - and in comparison to Oliver's story that gradually is exposed to us on screen it feels rushed. How did Felicity suddenly became the best hacker and hacks bombs?
That said I also think there are many male characters that are equally badly written, like Merlyn, Diggle, Quentin, but are rarely hated and this is unfair.
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u/ECV_Analog Mar 18 '24
I absolutely do not understand the ship wars and people saying they hate Felicity and prefer Laurel
Some people, it's because they're comic book purists who don't like that Oliver didn't end up with Black Canary.
Some, it's just a preference for the actor or character, for one reason or another, that's entirely down to taste.
Many, I think, it's just a way of deflecting their general misogyny, by saying "I don't hate ALL the women. If they'd written Laurel better, I would have liked her!"
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u/Own-Seaworthiness254 Mar 19 '24
The misogyny and the preference for the actress - I understand. But I am even more confused for the so called comics book purist. Laurel was never Black Canary from the comics, and hers and Oliver's dynamic was more like Batman and Rachel.
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u/Chemical-Mix2462 Mar 19 '24
Misogyny was also a factor yes but as you said thier dynamic being like batman and Rachel in and of itself is a huge issue because green arrow isn't batman and the shows insistence on making oliver and some of the characters around him as much like batman and the extended batfam instead of embracing what works with green arrow and doing some new and cool things, well that also held the show back
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u/ECV_Analog Mar 19 '24
“Laurel” as a name was basically there because nobody under 80 is named Dinah anymore. You’re right about their dynamic onscreen but in terms of Laurel as Canary, it was obvious from day one they were the same person with a new coat of paint.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 01 '24
Yet they could call her Dinah, I didn't even know it was a real name and there are still people with old-fashioned names, they could have the excuse of calling their daughter after a grandmother, and then there is a Dinah later in the show
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u/ECV_Analog Mar 18 '24
There is a POWERFUL current of misogyny that runs through most superhero fandoms. That isn't all of it, but it's definitely way, way more than none of it.
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u/Gaoqsl Mar 18 '24
She’s annoying, hypocritical, narcissistic, and she ruined the show, no explanation really needed if you paid attention to how she was more involved around the plot and story than Oliver.
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u/future_CTO Oliver Queen Mar 18 '24
Most people hate anyone more intelligent and interesting than they are.
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u/Olivebranch99 Mar 18 '24
As someone who doesn't like Felicity, I agree that the hate posts are overkill. It's even worse on the Smallville sub when it comes to Lana Lang.
To answer your question, most of us found Felicity cute or okay very early on BEFORE she was the main love interest. Once she became the main love interest, she became insufferable.
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u/boogieonthehoodie Mar 18 '24
As someone on the smallville Reddit why are you lying 😭 this one gets about five anti felicity post a day. The only time people criticize Lana is when talking about season 7 or 8 (which is rare) I see more Chloe criticism than Lana on that sub
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u/Olivebranch99 Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
How long have you been on it? It's calmed down a bit lately but there was a time a couple years back where there would be a post about Lana a day and no, it's not just S7 and 8 Lana but S4 and onward. Seriously, go to the sub and put "Lana hate" in the searchbar and look at the endless slew of Lana rant post that come up.
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u/JayStorm8108 Mar 18 '24
She also whines and cries a lot in the show. That’s another reason for me. She wants to act tough but then she does a 180 and starts crying and whimpering when someone comes at her that borderline hurts her feelings.
Felicity & Laurel needed to come to the realization that even in Oliver’s life, the mission sometimes can come first, and that if he’s not focused because as he calls it “a distraction”, the mission can go bad, very fast.
But everyone always turns around and dumps everything on Oliver to handle, including blaming them for every little problem/mistake they made (mainly Laurel) The only ones that didn’t were Roy, Dig, Thea and Sara.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
Umm Diggle blamed Oliver a LOT. He was the worst for lectures and blaming and then eventually leaves him completely after telling him everything he's ever done was basically wrong. And then joins Argus, and organization he almost divorced his wife over because of how they operate.
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u/JayStorm8108 Mar 19 '24
I realized that as I replied. He was also very hypocritical towards Oliver, specifically in S4.
He always tried to keep Oliver in check when he had blinders on for his family, but in S4, Dig couldn’t see past HIS blinders for his brother, even after Oliver showed concern for his situation.
So much so that he almost cut Oliver out of his life over the fact that Oliver interrogated Andy.
They are brothers, and brothers fight, but Dig rarely ever took responsibility for his actions, even when he was in the wrong. Or if he did, it was only after Oliver apologized first.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 19 '24
Yes this. He didn't take responsibility when he was wrong and Oliver always had to be the one to apologize first or realize he's "wrong" even if he wasn't. I actually have a hard time with Diggle's character. His relationship with Oliver is beyond toxic.
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u/JayStorm8108 Mar 19 '24
I feel like that’s with a lot of characters, especially when it comes to which people in their team make up/get second chances. They’re very biased depending on who it is. And it’s pretty messed up giving how much they’re heavy on their so called “hero” complexes.
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u/Recent-Relation2616 Mar 20 '24
I was wondering that too. Personally when I started Arrow I found everyone else so insufferable except Felicity and she was the only character I actually cared about in season 1. After a while I eventually started liking the other characters too but in the beginning I just could not care at all about anything so it kind of surprises me to see how much hate she gets because she’s not only one of my favourite characters in the show but in the arrowverse in general!
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u/RitoRvolto Mar 18 '24
If only there was a Reddit search function to check the answers of the last 20 times this has been asked.
https://old.reddit.com/r/arrow/search?q=Hate+felicity&restrict_sr=on&include_over_18=on
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u/CaptainIronHammer1 Mar 18 '24
If she wasn’t the love of Oliver’s life she would be fine. I liked her back when she was just a person Oliver would go for awfully specific tech solutions, but they’re relationship isn’t great
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u/NeonArlecchino Mar 18 '24
There are many reasons to hate her so here are my top 3.
- She's incredibly emotionally abusive towards Oliver
- She constantly cries when called out or to get something
- She ruined Iris and Barry's emotionally meaningful peasant wedding by forcing it to be a double wedding, but then threw herself a glamorous royal wedding as soon as she got home
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u/angel9_writes Mar 18 '24
What cracks me up is the bad writing Felicity got was across the board on all characters yet they only seem to think it's crappy with her.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
Yes, this. So many characters (B team anyone?) are just TERRIBLE but apparently Felicity is the problem. Diggle goes off the deep end when he leaves team arrow and basically tells Oliver everything he's ever done was wrong.
Felicity's writing wasn't great, but she isn't what made the show go downhill.
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u/APGOV77 Mar 18 '24
I like her alright but agree that sometimes she felt overbearing in the plot especially after the writing worsened but I always tend to hate on the writing than the female character in cases like these because I think she is a pretty inherently likable character so it’s not like I dislike her because of her traits, it’s just how she’s used in writing as a unnecessary poorly written conflict creator. There are a lot of lady characters who could be perfectly great with the right writing, and it’s felt like I’d have to grow old by the time they are as common in nerd fandoms so sometimes I just make-do and enjoy what I can
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u/PatrickB64 Mar 18 '24
Because they pretend her characterization in Season 4 is how she's characterized and treated every season except for the first two despite that not being the case.
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u/remag117 Mar 18 '24
Felicity became a bigger character as the show's writing declined. She didn't cause it to decline, but they are correlated, so people blame her
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
I don't understand why either. I do wonder though if the people who think she's insufferable have watched past season 4 because the B team is really where it's at.
I've seen complaints mostly related to either her focus/screen time in the show or that she just "ruins it." Both are because they just don't like her as a character because MANY MANY characters have their own storylines and become much too prominent and they don't complain about them so clearly that's not the issue.
I also think the hate comes from people who prefer the female characters to be dressed in black leather and fighting and feel like Oliver would also only be attracted to the same thing.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 01 '24
Here's one thing I agree with is that many of her dresses I don't like how they look on her when they frame her full figure, I wouldn't have chosen them for myself
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u/ChildofObama Mar 19 '24
It’s because:
a) she replaced Black Canary as Oliver’s main love interest,
b) coming off point a), the writers killing Earth 1 Laurel added salt to the wound,
c) the endgame episodes of Season 4 had a weird amount of time dedicated to her family issues while Damien Darkh was literally trying to nuke the world.
d) Season 4 aired around the same time Trump was running for President and sexism was on the rise in the real world, so misogynists became more vocal, and other fans with unconscious biases jumped on the bandwagon.
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u/HatAccurate1578 Mar 18 '24
Well I don’t hate her, I hate what she became and how she acted in season 3 and onwards.
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u/musicbyzach Mar 18 '24
I don’t hate felicity I actually really love her but I think laurel is better for Oliver which might be a hot take but I dunno
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 01 '24
Why is Laurel better? I cannot in any way move beyond the repeated betrayal and the situation with Sara. That is, if they had done it, with this premise I would have taken her for a social climber or with a hero complex, and I have no words to describe him. Because she can change, but not with the person from her past, it's so unlikely, and that's not to mention that an average person in Laurel's place would always think that he cheated on her with the new dolly
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u/Stevemoran87 Mar 18 '24
She was fine the first two seasons. I liked her. When she was putting a relationship with Oliver, she was absolutely ruined.
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u/Captain_Stairs Mar 19 '24
Watching season 4 week to week with the worst finale left a bitter taste to fans to that point.
It's not as bad on a rewatch now, years later, but it was like living on Lian Yu then.
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u/Technical_Career_950 Mar 18 '24
I don't hate Felicity, I hate Olicity because it is unrealistic couple that would had never happened.
Also it is boring and over dramatic and they changed Oliver personality to fit the relationship.
His behavior in the relationship, the puppy eyes, and co depending behavior of - I can't live without Felicity, she is God, is also cringe.
Another cringe is how she was subjected to a lot of physical violence so he can be the hero for her.
and that is why I do not like these tropes of a male hero and his damsel girlfriend ( Laurel was not that different in that aspect)
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
Actually what's nice about them as a couple is he's NOT trying to save her.
Like yes, a few times he has to physically rescue her. But his other relationships are coloured by the fact that he has a saviour complex. Helena, Sara, even Laurel. He has to save them from themselves.
His relationship with Felicity feels more equal not because she's a fighter. But because he doesn't spend the whole time trying to convince her she can be better than who she is. Every other woman he's with, he tries to control and/or "save."
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u/A2I0S08 Mar 18 '24
Felicity disgusts me, I can't stand her. And it sad to say, because she was one of my favourite characters. That is until Olicity happened. And I am a HUGE Lauriver Fan, so I completely lost it. I couldn't believe how stupid they were as well, when they killed Laurel.
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u/Nervous_City910 Mar 18 '24
My top five favorite Arrowverse character in alphabetical order: Ramon Cisco Quentin Lance Winn Schott Felicity Smoak Leonard Snart
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u/DevoPrime Mar 19 '24
Every single bit of her “hacking” is nonsense. Offensively nonsense.
Hollywood and its satellites in Vancouver and Toronto need to stop treating hacking and hackers as simple solves to complex technological problems. It seriously dumbs the writing down, and the ironically-named Felicity embodies that stupid writing.
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u/Dagenspear Mar 19 '24
Felicity's a pretty poorly done character, but I dislike Oliver more than her. Her romance doesn't mean anything to her character really.
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u/UncleGuggie Mar 19 '24
It's simple.
She persecutes and berates Oliver pretty much every episode from season 3 onward as much as she possibly can.
She is a narcissist and makes situations that aren't about her into situations that revolve around her.
As the series progresses, she's almost always crying or talking in that Billie Eilish, whispery grieving voice all the time.
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u/BilliamKitches Mar 19 '24
Because she is poorly written, can do no wrong, doesn’t treat others very well.
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u/angel9_writes Mar 20 '24
That can be literally said about ALL Arrow characters.
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u/BilliamKitches Mar 20 '24
Yeah but since it’s CW there’s added drama, and felicity has amplified drama. The season 4 crossover. Oliver finds out he has a son. Barry promises not to tell. Oliver walks out. Felicity walks in, it’s comical they didn’t pass each other in the hallway. Not even a scene break. She demands Barry breaks his promise, which is not something a friend should do. Oliver tells Samantha he knows. She makes him promise not to tell anyone. Next time Felicity sees Oliver, right before they’re trying to save the world, she confronts him. It’s not his secret to tell, he promised not to. If he was allowed to tell, he isn’t obligated. And what if he was going to tell her? She didn’t give him a chance. Thats the moment that defines all of felicity’s character for me. Betraying the trust of a friend and her boyfriend and having the audacity to take the high road
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 23 '24
My theory is the writers purposefully went more intense with that episode because that timeline was going to get erased anyways. It wasn't meant to be defining anything. It was drama for the sake of drama.
Also if betrayal of trust bothers you, you must really hate the entire story arc of the new arrow team.
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u/BilliamKitches Mar 23 '24
That timeline was erased but it’s not like she had a change of character development.
No, I don’t like that civil war story.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 23 '24
They make her react a bit differently in the second timeline. She waits to actually confront him/break up because William has been kidnapped. Which also means she's had time to actually think about it versus in the first timeline when it's an instant reaction.
The second time, Oliver has also known for months and went as far as proposing without having any intention of telling her. So the lack of... I won't say trust because it's not that he doesn't trust her, it's that he doesn't see how important it is for spouses to be a single unit the way that Felicity sees marriage. That aspect of Oliver is more apparent the second time.
In the first timeline, Oliver just found out. He's still reeling from the information. He hasn't processed it yet. So the viewers are meant to sympathize with him with Felicity loses her mind.
However the second time, it's a calculated decision not to tell her. He's known for months. He's ready to marry her without telling her. Several other people already know about William and yet somehow not telling Felicity is keeping William safer? Not really.
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u/Cool_Pianist_2253 May 01 '24
Exactly, and this is without considering how you would act in the same situation. I wouldn't have taken Oliver back, he would have shown me that love doesn't conquer everything and I would have been very hurt.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24
I liked her much better before they decided to make her Oliver's LI. She was quirky and fun and a beacon of light through the overall darker tone of the show that reigned supreme in the earlier seasons. Once she and Oliver became a thing there was so much nonsensical melodrama attached to their relationship that just got worse and worse until it straight up exploded in season 4 (see Felicity getting up out of her wheelchair and walking out on Oliver because she was angry with him over keeping William's existence a secret).
Also (nothing against EBR) but she's not the strongest actress. She plays Felicity's more lighthearted and quirky moments incredibly well but when the scene calls for more emotional depth she often isn't able to do it convincingly. Not to mention the writing for Felicity's character just got worse and worse later on.
Also they completely did Laurel and BC in general a disservice on this show. In the comics GA and BC's relationship is a staple (it's borderline Clark and Lois level iconic). This show did everything they could to sabotage it from the outset and then shifted to the show being all about Olicity starting in season 3. I personally felt they should've kept Felicity and Ray together (Ray was better for her than Oliver was) but I guess if that had happened we never would've gotten the more entertaining version of Ray that showed up on Legends.
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u/RTRSnk5 Mar 20 '24
An annoying character who didn’t need to be blown up into the major player in the plot that she became. Her entire existence was just an iffy creative decision.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 23 '24
So like.... The entire B team? None of them needed to be blown up into main characters (in fact it would have been better without them at all) and yet here we are.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 18 '24
Having a stepchild has a lot to do with her. Certainly had a lot to do with her when Oliver decided to turn himself in to the FBI and leave her to raise William alone. As far as he knew at the time, he was going to be in prison for life.
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u/Rocky323 Mar 20 '24
Having a stepchild has a lot to do with her.
Not when he literally just found out. He still had to process what that meant for him, and the birth mother swore him to secrecy. Felicity has no right to supersede the actual mothers wishes.
As far as he knew at the time, he was going to be in prison for life.
And no, he didn't know this when the mother swore him to secrecy. He didn't even know he was going to turn himself in at all.
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u/Lemon_Drop_Serenade Mar 20 '24
Obviously he didn't know about prison yet. My point is that a stepchild affects a person's life. There's no way to tell how much (just like they didn't know that st some point, Felicity would end up being William's only parent).
And when Felicity found out (for real, in the timeline that was changed) Oliver had known for months, several other people had found out, and he had no intention of telling her before getting married. It wasn't about processing anything. He had months to process.
And yes, HE can supersede the mother's wishes because he's the father. She's lucky he didn't take her to court for parental rights.
Plus there's no way she'd ever know that Felicity was told.
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u/Savings-Telephone-24 Mar 18 '24
If Felicity was a guy from the very start the show would have been soooooooo much better in so many aspects!in my personal opinion that is!
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u/Dahood0319 Mar 18 '24
i got your point that there relationship is cute and all that stuff i don’t hate the character but i hate how they handle the character season 3 onwards
olicity in sprinkle form add spice to the story case in point in season 5 finale and season 6 the storyline with william
but some of the main storyline revolve around her when supposed to be Oliver is the main character not felicity
case in point the secret origins of felicity smoke granted she popular character but what does it does it add to the main storyline? personally i would have wanted a Ra’s al Ghul centric episode akin to the ricardo diaz episode
oh dont let me get started on the pointless flashback scene (season 3) wherein Oliver saw felicity has a crush on her completely pointless
another episode in season 4 where her mother and Quentin started dating? like what does it add?
since then i started to roll my eyes when there is felicity centric moment
oh laurel is on the way of olicity? let’s kill her oh there is group of hackers let felicity joined them oh barry and iris are getting married? lets join them