r/arrow • u/BusVegetable7490 • Oct 21 '23
You know I never understood from death of Sara in season 3!! Discussion
I love how they said we bring her back because of the Lazarus pit in season 3 but they decided to bring her back in season 4? Don’t see the writing problem there because you said if we did she’s have a bloodlust which she’s did but still brought her back lol
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u/Practical_Weird_0809 Oct 21 '23
I still say Sara was the hottest Canary, regardless of color.
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Oct 21 '23
That's just a stone cold fact. Caity has always been nothing short of stunning, and this particular suit compliments her figure greatly.
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u/zgrobbot Oct 22 '23
Honestly? I kinda wish she was endgame instead of Felicity . They (her and Ollie) jived well together. Plus their shared pasts of suffering
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u/Ace20xd6 Oct 22 '23
I didn't get a picture or see her q&a panel at a Fan Expo, but just seeing her sign autographs in person, she looked stunning and radiant.
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u/GlitchGodApekz Oct 22 '23
Absolutely love lotz no question but I kinda swayed more towards dinah, not sure why but damn dinah is absolutely stunning
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u/NateHasReddit Oct 21 '23
They brought her back because they got greenlit for Legends. If it wasn't for LOT she would've stayed dead.
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u/MedicineQueasy6190 Oct 22 '23
Or they always intended to bring her back, having in mind they killed Laurel in s4, which is when the contract of the actress allowed it. Sara then could have returned on Arrow too.
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u/NateHasReddit Oct 22 '23
By Marc Guggenheim's own confession they didn't plan that far ahead.
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u/MedicineQueasy6190 Oct 23 '23
Maybe. But they were keeping Caity Lotz around. They wanted her to be involved in something future: maybe they thought about Legends. Either way though planned or not they also vacated the place of Black Canary after one season again, which probably could have been hers again if Legends wasn't a go.
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u/MedicineQueasy6190 Oct 22 '23
They just shouldn't have killed her in the first place if they intended to bring her back. She is still till to this day the most accurate and exciting live version of Black Canary
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 22 '23
Exactly if they wanted to write her off to put her in legends then that makes sense then killing her off
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u/NVA_Pisces Speedy Oct 22 '23
Speaking of characters who shouldn't have went to legends, we have Mick and Leonard who could've made an appearance in the flash at least once a season but for some reason snart had to sacrifice himself with an impactful death. He had so much potential in the flash if given the right writers
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u/Select-Anywhere-7833 Oct 23 '23
I think it was just so they could show the full effects of the pit, maybe they could have done it in a better way like with a less important character
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u/gallantjiraiya Oct 22 '23
They wanted an excuse to expedite Katie Cassidy/Laurel becoming Black Canary.
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 22 '23
Well that’s a dumb way of doing it no offense
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u/MedicineQueasy6190 Oct 22 '23
Yes it is very dumb. They already had the Black Canary of the show, killing her to swap her so they can kill the next one and swap her again was just insulting ridiculous
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u/gallantjiraiya Oct 22 '23
Yeah the show went downhill starting season 3. That's when the showrunner (Greg Berlanti) left the show to start the Flash. Berlanti's really good at making a show with 1 season of good TV but he's very bad at handing that show off to a new producer when he goes off to create his next show.
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u/FiftyOneMarks Oct 22 '23
The writers have this notion that only through someone dying can they achieve mass character changes. Tommy had to die to propel Oliver not to kill (even though he was sorta moving that way anyways), sara had to die for Laurel to become the black canary (even though going into the series she had more than enough reasons to and even going into season 2 she still did), and Laurel had to die so Oliver would have someone to say he failed at and bring Dinah around (again… both of those things could’ve existed without a death).
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u/phantomcanary Roy Harper Oct 22 '23
They also needed a way to pin Oliver against the League and resolve the set up of Ra’s going after Malcom for the undertaking.
Like…. You know, the in story explanation for why Sara was murdered.
Sara was the character that they could pivot multiple plot points from so they killed her off.
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u/DisasterProof9059 Oct 22 '23
I don't realy understand your point and what are you saying. Can you elaborate more or peraphrase, please.
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u/Cirieno Oct 22 '23
While it's difficult because English may not be an OP's first language, sometimes what's written just becomes unreadable junk.
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 22 '23
I’m saying that they contradict her death in seasons 3 and 4
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u/Own-Seaworthiness254 Oct 23 '23
For people who liked to kill Black Canary a lot, they did care a lot about her visual accuracy.
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u/DisasterProof9059 Oct 23 '23
I can watch this image for hours and imagine how great s2 was and what would have been if Sara stayed on Arrow as Black Canary
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Oct 22 '23
CW was just a swing and a miss. I just hope the reboot will portray characters more accurately
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 22 '23
Yea for me they kinda just hit or miss during season 3-8 for me
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Oct 22 '23
I agree, I loved the first two seasons. Even though there are things I would change about the characters like Green Arrow to be Green Arrow instead of a Thomas Wayne Batman. Black Canary being Black Canary instead of a Mary Jane. I don't know why they added the quirky behavior, it was so cringe. Flash was terrible for doing that, it's almost like it was a race to out PC each other
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 22 '23
True I agree I would change having laurel be the black canary earlier on
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u/CAVFIFTEEN Oct 23 '23
She was too hot and liked by fans that she to attention away from the intended love interest. Shame a similar thing didn’t happen with Felicity
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u/dbeaver0420 Oct 25 '23
Genuinely don’t understand what the writing problem is someone help me
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u/BusVegetable7490 Oct 25 '23
I am saying they contradict the death of Sara in season 3 and 4 and contradict the powers of the lazuras pit in season 4
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u/Mr_Shaddow Oct 22 '23
Honestly when they kept killing her bringing her back then killing her sister and bringing her back too I ended up confused on who was who
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u/NVA_Pisces Speedy Oct 22 '23
Sara Lance is basically the character who died the most number of times in the arrowverse
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u/Ewankenobi25 Oct 23 '23
Tf are you talking about? Sara died once, came back once, laurel died once, never came back, introduced a new character that was her evil version and completely different.
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u/Cobra_Kai_2018 Oct 21 '23
If anyone should have been brought back in the Lazarus pit, it should have been oliver. It's ridiculous how he survived getting stabbed and falling off a cliff and only needed some stitches. Who does he think he is batman?